Pd-list June 2010

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Only one instance of Pd can produce sound in Ubuntu
by Matteo Sisti Sette 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi, If I open multiple instances of Pd in Ubuntu (doesn't matter whether vanilla or extended or mixed), only the first one has sound. No matter whether I set "alsa" or "oss" in Media. (btw I'm sure I had seen also "portaudio" listed but now it's gone) Usually there's no problem in having multiple applications send sound to the same output device (not sure whether the same can be said about input)... Is there something I'm missing that will allow multiple Pd's to send sound to the output just as multiple applications do? thanks m.

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hackable monster mouse
by Dan Wilcox 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Checkout the Warmouse. It looks like a nice hackable base for a custom pd controller ... better make sure [hid] is ready for it Hans! -------- Dan Wilcox danomatika.com robotcowboy.com

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Re: [PD] run ruby script from [shell]?
by Ben Baker-Smith 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

I had the same problem, on Mac OS X with Pd-extended 0.41.4 I ran some tests and it seems that relative paths in [shell] just don't work like they do with the rest of pd. For example, if you have a pd patch in the same folder as ruby_script.rb, you can't run it simply by using a "ruby ruby_script.rb" message, you have to do "ruby /full/path/to/ruby_script.rb" (as opposed to, say, media files or abstractions in the same folder as your patch). Both [motex/system] and [ggee/shell] work on my macbook. (thanks for the list, Hans. I didn't know there were two [popen] objects) Ben Baker-Smith -- http://bitsynthesis.com > There are four options to try, let us know which works best for you: > > flatspace/popen > moonlib/popen > motex/system > ggee/shell > > .hc > > On Jun 28, 2010, at 6:55 PM, Jon wrote: > > > hi > > i'm trying to execute a ruby script from the shell object by sending > > it the message "ruby /path/to/script.rb arguments" but i get nothing. > > the script works fine from the command line, with the exact same > > arguments. is there an alternative? > > i'm on osx, latest stable pd extended > > thank you > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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interface/pd-based standalone applications question
by David Schaffer 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi, Is there anyone out there who could teach me how to make good looking stand alone pd apps, I mean pd patches with a nice looking GUI on top that would play on any computer even without pd installed. I saw this guy the other day with his max based lighting board stand alone app. and I thought it was pretty cool... Thanks! D.S http://www.flickr.com/photos/schafferdavid/ http://audioblog.arteradio.com/David_Schaffer/ _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

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error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext'
by Christoph Kuhr 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi, im running ubuntu 10.04 with Pd version 0.42.5-extended-20100508 i tried to get the spatial workshop of Georg Holzmann working. i get the following console output: >> error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext' >> ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. >> define_loudspeakers - v1.0.3 - 12 Aug 2006 - (c) Ville Pulkki >> 1999-2006 >> error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext' >> vbap: Using default loudspeaker setup >> vbap: Could not open loudspeaker data file ls_setup >> >> vbap-4ch~.pd 10 1 20 1 (canvas->vbap) connection failed >> vbap-4ch~.pd 10 2 20 2 (canvas->vbap) connection failed >> vbap-4ch~.pd 10 3 20 3 (canvas->vbap) connection failed >> error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext' >> rvbap: Loudspeaker setup configured! >> error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices' >> vbap: list message <azimuth> <elevation> required 0 >> error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext' >> error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext' >> vbap: Using default loudspeaker setup >> vbap: Could not open loudspeaker data filels_setup >> vbap-4ch~.pd 10 1 20 1 (canvas->vbap) connection failed >> vbap-4ch~.pd 10 2 20 2 (canvas->vbap) connection failed >> vbap-4ch~.pd 10 3 20 3 (canvas->vbap) connection failed >> error: [import]: can't load library in 'vbap_ext' >> rvbap: Loudspeaker setup configured! >> error: vbap: no method for 'loudspeaker-matrices' >> vbap: list message <azimuth> <elevation> required 0 i havent found anything about vbap_ext, neigther via google nor in the sources. can anyone help? thanks chris

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Re: [PD] having both vanilla and extended installed in linux (ubuntu)
by Marco Donnarumma 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi Matteo, here on Jaunty with 0.42.5 autobuild the command pdextended works fine. Have you tried to install a latest autobuild as mentioned before? I don't think you need to compile all what you are compiling. http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/latest/ M > On 06/30/2010 10:42 AM, Husk 00 wrote: > > > > On Ubuntu/Lucid, you should be able to install both the > 'puredata' > > package and the 0.42.5-rc3 package. > > Hi Matteo, > > now the launcher script for pd-extended is pdextended in /usr/bin. > > Pd-vanila still uses pd command to be launched if i'm not wrong. > > I installed the jaunty binary package for pd extended, it runs with "pd" > and there is no "pdextended" command. > > I guess that improvement is more recent. > > In order to install the latest version I guess I'll have to download the > source and compile it, no? > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list mailing list > Pd-list(a)iem.at > to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > End of Pd-list Digest, Vol 63, Issue 215 > **************************************** > > -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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[OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel
by Pedro Lopes 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Nop, from karmic (9.10) up its grub2, the thing its a bit odd but 1.97~beta4 is actually grub2[1]. Or a more trusted source [2] - see that it reads grub2 bellow: grub2 (1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4)) [1] http://movingtowardslinux.wordpress.com/2010/01/26/installing-windows-and-l… [2] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/1.97~beta4-1ubuntu4<https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/1.97%7Ebeta4-1ubuntu4> 2010/6/30 András Murányi <muranyia(a)gmail.com> > Thanks all! > I'm with (stupid:) Ubuntu, vanilla... so my kernel is not rt by default, i > suppose. > Will take a look at this patching thing... (before i thought it's the > source you have to patch...) > > As for grub, it seems grub2 comes with a fresh Lucid install but my old > grub just survived the upgrade (bet i'm glad) > > Andras > > > > On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Pedro Lopes <pedro.lopes(a)ist.utl.pt>wrote: > >> Easier than messing with grub2 new commands... >> >> >> On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 8:40 PM, Kim Cascone <kim(a)anechoicmedia.com>wrote: >> >>> also, if you want a quick and easy way to switch kernels for testing: >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Pedro Lopes >> contacto: jazz(a)radiozero.pt >> website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > -- > Muranyi Andras > -- Pedro Lopes contacto: jazz(a)radiozero.pt website: http://web.ist.utl.pt/Pedro.Lopes

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Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question
by David Schaffer 30 Jun '10

30 Jun '10

I'm neither nuts, nor a consumer. I just happen to be impressed by a patch I came across a while ago, it was a TR 909 emulation and looked very professionnal. It's basically what I'm trying to do: building pd patches (like improved media players, virtual FX racks, video dispatchers...) that can be used by non-pd people, people who are used to interact with "standard" user interfaces, see? > > hey > > I mean pd patches with a nice looking GUI on top that would play on > > any computer even without pd installed. > what are you nuts¿ or just a consumer? > > > ahhh > sevy _________________________________________________________________ Your E-mail and More On-the-Go. Get Windows Live Hotmail Free. https://signup.live.com/signup.aspx?id=60969

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Re: [PD] software license for pd general patch?
by Ben Baker-Smith 30 Jun '10

30 Jun '10

> > There are enough people doing the same, that all those individual > 1% and 2% add up to a very large proportion of what's being produced in > the pd community. I agree with this sentiment. People seem most attracted to Pd for its flexibility. If everyone wanted a nifty vocoder they would've gone out and bought Reason, or downloaded some free plugins for Audacity. A vocoder patch may get more downloads, but this is probably because there's more overlap in interest than with some other niche items, not because this is the sort of patch that the majority of Pd users try to create. It is the niche items that drive the community, not standard audio tools. Also, you can never know what use someone else may find for your patch. I have taken elements from synth patches and used them as controllers for visual patches. I don't care about classical composing, and haven't heard of any of the composers you listed, but I am certainly interested in checking out your patch for its potential as a complex rythmic triggering mechanism.

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Re: [PD] [OT] linux preempt kernel vs rt kernel
by Kim Cascone 30 Jun '10

30 Jun '10

also, if you want a quick and easy way to switch kernels for testing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StartUpManager

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