Pd-list June 2010

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Re: [PD] interface/pd-based standalone applications question
by Marco Donnarumma 05 Jul '10

05 Jul '10

Chris McCormick is working on it, alone as far as I know. (Don't want to talk for Chris) but it seems to me he's interested in porting oniy pd-vanilla tilde objects. And he would need help too. Anyway he published some useful guidelines and I think it shouldn't be difficult for someone knowing Javascript to port other externals or stuff. http://mccormick.cx/dev/webpd/ M > > Web-Pd is a project i'm very interested in - when it gets vanilla > > functionality, we'll have a chance to fabricate wonderful GUIs while > staying > > in the browser, which means staying platform-independent (eventually > > browser-independent too). > > > > are you the one doing this work? do you have any deadlines about when it > will be finished? > will it be vanilla-only, or is it possible to add externals? > -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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Re: [PD] PD] request assistance with crackles and pops in VFOs driven, by modulating accelerometer signals
by Collin Oldham 03 Jul '10

03 Jul '10

I think you are getting those crackles from the atoms (number boxes) that are trying to redraw every time they get a new number from the accelerometers. (which is probably pretty often!) That would explain why it only happens you are using the sensors, and why your very sensible solutions didn't work. Just a hunch! I'd try hiding it all in a sub patch, and if that works, you could use something like [speedlim] (from cyclone?) to limit the refresh rate on the atoms. Collin http://homepage.mac.com/coldham/klang

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inhibit gnome screensaver from pd
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 03 Jul '10

03 Jul '10

Anyone have any tricks for preventing the screensaver from starting on GNOME? Ideally there would be a simple object :) .hc ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Making boring techno music is really easy with modern tools, but with live coding, boring techno is much harder." - Chris McCormick

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compiling pdextended rc3 jaunty
by Marco Donnarumma 02 Jul '10

02 Jul '10

Hi all, I'm trying to build a jaunty package of pdextended rc3. I get the source from http://puredata.info/docs/developer/GettingPdSourcespecifically the "Pd-extended between releases" (is this correct?) when i make install && make package I get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lmp3lame collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[2]: *** [/home/sad/pd-extended/externals/unauthorized/mp3amp~/mp3amp~.pd_linux] Error 1 rm /home/sad/pd-extended/externals/unauthorized/mp3amp~/mp3amp~.o make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/sad/pd-extended/externals' make[1]: *** [externals_install] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/sad/pd-extended/packages' make: *** [install] Error 2 is this about missing dependency libmp3lame? I do have installed libmp3lame0 though. am I doing something wrong? thanks -- Marco Donnarumma aka TheSAD Independent New Media Arts Professional, Performer, Teacher - Edinburgh, UK PORTFOLIO: http://marcodonnarumma.com LAB: http://www.thesaddj.com | http://cntrl.sourceforge.net | http://www.flxer.net EVENT: http://www.liveperformersmeeting.net

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popen vs shell bug
by Kim Cascone 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

I send the following message to both the [popen] and the [shell] externals: [cd /usr/lib/pd/extra && ls -al > ~/Desktop/foobar.txt] when sent to [popen] it crashes Pd but sending it to [shell] worked fine below is the crash report (pd -stderr) after sending it to [popen] FYI: I got rid of the [moonlib] version of [popen] as well as its help file as you can see the flatspace one is being loaded =================================== tried /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/popen.pd_linux and succeeded *** buffer overflow detected ***: pd terminated ======= Backtrace: ========= /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__fortify_fail+0x48)[0xb76deef8] /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0xb76dd000] /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0xb76dc28d] /usr/lib/pd/extra/flatspace/popen.pd_linux[0xb70e2b9f] pd(pd_typedmess+0x2ab)[0x80b71db] ======= Memory map: ======== 08048000-08111000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35809 /usr/bin/pd 08111000-08112000 r--p 000c8000 08:03 35809 /usr/bin/pd 08112000-08113000 rw-p 000c9000 08:03 35809 /usr/bin/pd 08113000-08520000 rw-p 08113000 00:00 0 09f9f000-0a089000 rw-p 09f9f000 00:00 0 [heap] b42f3000-b4348000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 34905 /usr/lib/liboil-0.3.so.0.3.0 b4348000-b4349000 r--p 00055000 08:03 34905 /usr/lib/liboil-0.3.so.0.3.0 b4349000-b4360000 rw-p 00056000 08:03 34905 /usr/lib/liboil-0.3.so.0.3.0 b4360000-b4362000 rw-p b4360000 00:00 0 b4362000-b4366000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 482419 /lib/libattr.so.1.1.0 b4366000-b4367000 r--p 00003000 08:03 482419 /lib/libattr.so.1.1.0 b4367000-b4368000 rw-p 00004000 08:03 482419 /lib/libattr.so.1.1.0 b4368000-b436b000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 482538 /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 b436b000-b436c000 r--p 00002000 08:03 482538 /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 b436c000-b436d000 rw-p 00003000 08:03 482538 /lib/libuuid.so.1.2 b436d000-b4405000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 34677 /usr/lib/libxvidcore.so.4.2 b4405000-b440f000 rw-p 00098000 08:03 34677 /usr/lib/libxvidcore.so.4.2 b440f000-b4479000 rw-p b440f000 00:00 0 b4479000-b4502000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 33520 /usr/lib/libx264.so.68 b4502000-b4504000 rw-p 00088000 08:03 33520 /usr/lib/libx264.so.68 b4504000-b450b000 rw-p b4504000 00:00 0 b450b000-b4526000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 1406274 /usr/lib/sse2/libspeex.so.1.5.0 b4526000-b4527000 r--p 0001a000 08:03 1406274 /usr/lib/sse2/libspeex.so.1.5.0 b4527000-b4528000 rw-p 0001b000 08:03 1406274 /usr/lib/sse2/libspeex.so.1.5.0 b4528000-b4598000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 33499 /usr/lib/libschroedinger-1.0.so.0.2.0 b4598000-b4599000 ---p 00070000 08:03 33499 /usr/lib/libschroedinger-1.0.so.0.2.0 b4599000-b459a000 r--p 00070000 08:03 33499 /usr/lib/libschroedinger-1.0.so.0.2.0 b459a000-b459b000 rw-p 00071000 08:03 33499 /usr/lib/libschroedinger-1.0.so.0.2.0 b459b000-b45b8000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 36726 /usr/lib/libopenjpeg-2.1.3.0.so b45b8000-b45b9000 r--p 0001c000 08:03 36726 /usr/lib/libopenjpeg-2.1.3.0.so b45b9000-b45ba000 rw-p 0001d000 08:03 36726 /usr/lib/libopenjpeg-2.1.3.0.so b45ba000-b45ce000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 33583 /usr/lib/libopencore-amrwb.so.0.1.1 b45ce000-b45cf000 rw-p 00014000 08:03 33583 /usr/lib/libopencore-amrwb.so.0.1.1 b45cf000-b45fc000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 33581 /usr/lib/libopencore-amrnb.so.0.1.1 b45fc000-b45fd000 rw-p 0002c000 08:03 33581 /usr/lib/libopencore-amrnb.so.0.1.1 b45fd000-b4609000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35799 /usr/lib/libgsm.so.1.0.12 b4609000-b460a000 rw-p 0000b000 08:03 35799 /usr/lib/libgsm.so.1.0.12 b460a000-b4645000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 36722 /usr/lib/libfaad.so.0.0.0 b4645000-b4646000 ---p 0003b000 08:03 36722 /usr/lib/libfaad.so.0.0.0 b4646000-b4647000 r--p 0003b000 08:03 36722 /usr/lib/libfaad.so.0.0.0 b4647000-b464a000 rw-p 0003c000 08:03 36722 /usr/lib/libfaad.so.0.0.0 b464a000-b4658000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 33922 /usr/lib/libfaac.so.0.0.0 b4658000-b465b000 rw-p 0000d000 08:03 33922 /usr/lib/libfaac.so.0.0.0 b465b000-b46eb000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 36716 /usr/lib/libdirac_encoder.so.0.1.0 b46eb000-b46ed000 rw-p 00090000 08:03 36716 /usr/lib/libdirac_encoder.so.0.1.0 b46ed000-b46ee000 rw-p b46ed000 00:00 0 b46ee000-b46fd000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 409348 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavutil.so.50.16.0 b46fd000-b46fe000 rw-p 0000f000 08:03 409348 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavutil.so.50.16.0 b46fe000-b4701000 rw-p b46fe000 00:00 0 b4701000-b473b000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 482466 /lib/libncursesw.so.5.7 b473b000-b473c000 ---p 0003a000 08:03 482466 /lib/libncursesw.so.5.7 b473c000-b473e000 r--p 0003a000 08:03 482466 /lib/libncursesw.so.5.7 b473e000-b473f000 rw-p 0003c000 08:03 482466 /lib/libncursesw.so.5.7 b473f000-b4744000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35655 /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3.0.0 b4744000-b4745000 r--p 00004000 08:03 35655 /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3.0.0 b4745000-b4746000 rw-p 00005000 08:03 35655 /usr/lib/libgdbm.so.3.0.0 b4746000-b4749000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 482430 /lib/libcap.so.2.11 b4749000-b474a000 r--p 00002000 08:03 482430 /lib/libcap.so.2.11 b474a000-b474b000 rw-p 00003000 08:03 482430 /lib/libcap.so.2.11 b474b000-b4760000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35314 /usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0 b4760000-b4761000 rw-p 00014000 08:03 35314 /usr/lib/libICE.so.6.3.0 b4761000-b4763000 rw-p b4761000 00:00 0 b4763000-b476a000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35345 /usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.0 b476a000-b476b000 r--p 00006000 08:03 35345 /usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.0 b476b000-b476c000 rw-p 00007000 08:03 35345 /usr/lib/libSM.so.6.0.0 b476c000-b4773000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35765 /usr/lib/libgomp.so.1.0.0 b4773000-b4774000 r--p 00006000 08:03 35765 /usr/lib/libgomp.so.1.0.0 b4774000-b4775000 rw-p 00007000 08:03 35765 /usr/lib/libgomp.so.1.0.0 b4775000-b47aa000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 409468 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libswscale.so.0.11.0 b47aa000-b47ab000 rw-p 00034000 08:03 409468 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libswscale.so.0.11.0 b47ab000-b47b8000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 410417 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavutil.so.49.15.0 b47b8000-b47b9000 r--p 0000c000 08:03 410417 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavutil.so.49.15.0 b47b9000-b47ba000 rw-p 0000d000 08:03 410417 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavutil.so.49.15.0 b47ba000-b47bd000 rw-p b47ba000 00:00 0 b47bd000-b4872000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 409849 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavformat.so.52.37.0 b4872000-b4879000 rw-p 000b5000 08:03 409849 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavformat.so.52.37.0 b4879000-b48c5000 rw-p b4879000 00:00 0 b48c5000-b4da2000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 409836 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavcodec.so.52.32.0 b4da2000-b4dad000 rw-p 004dc000 08:03 409836 /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libavcodec.so.52.32.0 b4dad000-b51cf000 rw-p b4dad000 00:00 0 b51cf000-b52da000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 36599 /usr/lib/libcxcore.so.1.0.0 b52da000-b52db000 r--p 0010a000 08:03 36599 /usr/lib/libcxcore.so.1.0.0 b52db000-b52e2000 rw-p 0010b000 08:03 36599 /usr/lib/libcxcore.so.1.0.0 b52e2000-b52eb000 rw-p b52e2000 00:00 0 b52eb000-b531b000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 482499 /lib/libpcre.so.3.12.1 b531b000-b531c000 r--p 0002f000 08:03 482499 /lib/libpcre.so.3.12.1 b531c000-b531d000 rw-p 00030000 08:03 482499 /lib/libpcre.so.3.12.1 b531d000-b5326000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 36707 /usr/lib/liba52-0.7.4.so b5326000-b5327000 rw-p 00008000 08:03 36707 /usr/lib/liba52-0.7.4.so b5327000-b5328000 rw-p b5327000 00:00 0 b5328000-b5339000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 36284 /usr/lib/libv4lconvert.so.0 b5339000-b533a000 r--p 00010000 08:03 36284 /usr/lib/libv4lconvert.so.0 b533a000-b533b000 rw-p 00011000 08:03 36284 /usr/lib/libv4lconvert.so.0 b533b000-b538b000 rw-p b533b000 00:00 0 b538b000-b5390000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35785 /usr/lib/libgpm.so.2.0.0 b5390000-b5391000 r--p 00004000 08:03 35785 /usr/lib/libgpm.so.2.0.0 b5391000-b5392000 rw-p 00005000 08:03 35785 /usr/lib/libgpm.so.2.0.0 b5392000-b542d000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 482516 /lib/libslang.so.2.1.3 b542d000-b5430000 r--p 0009a000 08:03 482516 /lib/libslang.so.2.1.3 b5430000-b543d000 rw-p 0009d000 08:03 482516 /lib/libslang.so.2.1.3 b543d000-b5473000 rw-p b543d000 00:00 0 b5473000-b54a2000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 482464 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7 b54a2000-b54a4000 r--p 0002e000 08:03 482464 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7 b54a4000-b54a5000 rw-p 00030000 08:03 482464 /lib/libncurses.so.5.7 b54a5000-b54c1000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35476 /usr/lib/libcaca.so.0.99.16 b54c1000-b54c2000 r--p 0001b000 08:03 35476 /usr/lib/libcaca.so.0.99.16 b54c2000-b5549000 rw-p 0001c000 08:03 35476 /usr/lib/libcaca.so.0.99.16 b5549000-b554d000 rw-p b5549000 00:00 0 b554d000-b5560000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35550 /usr/lib/libdirect-1.0.so.0.1.0 b5560000-b5561000 r--p 00012000 08:03 35550 /usr/lib/libdirect-1.0.so.0.1.0 b5561000-b5562000 rw-p 00013000 08:03 35550 /usr/lib/libdirect-1.0.so.0.1.0 b5562000-b5569000 r-xp 00000000 08:03 35632 /usr/lib/libfusion-1.0.so.0.1.0 b5569000-b556a000 r--p 00006000 08:03 35632 /upd_gui: pd process exited Aborted

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send midi to another program in windows? (not with [midifile])
by João Pais 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi, my attempts to work with [midifile] didn't work, as something in the files is saved wrong, and all my midi-related programs (sibelius, reason, logic,...) display a much slower file than the one I saved. Also, midifile only takes integers as midipitches, which is rather limiting. I wanted to send midi directly from Pd to any of the other said programs. Can anyone recommend a jack-kind of software for midi? Thanks, Joao -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin Deutschland Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp http://www.puredata.org/Members/jmmmp

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Store a List?
by Pierre Massat 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi all! I m wondering if there would be a simple way of storing a list, just like [f ] stores a float. My list is the output of a rather long [pack] object. Can use a two-stage pack? Something like that : [pack 0 0 0 0 0.... 0 0] | \ \ \ \ \ [pack 0 0] The idea would be to control when to output the list (with a bang on the hot inlet of the second pack in this example). My life is not at stake, but a simple solution would make it a lot easier for me tomorrow... Pierre

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Re: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 - solved!
by Ingo Scherzinger 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Problem solved! I added this line to the firmata 2.1: digitalWrite(pin, HIGH); // turn on pullup resistors in this context: case INPUT: pinStatus[pin] = mode; pinMode(pin, INPUT); -> digitalWrite(pin, HIGH); // turn on pullup resistors portStatus[port] = portStatus[port] &~ (1 << (pin - offset)); break; exactly as described on the arduino website. I think this definitely needs to be included in the standard firmata! Hans, don't you think so (since you're taking care of the pduino)? Cheers Ingo > From: "Ingo Scherzinger" <ingo(a)miamiwave.com> > Subject: [PD] problem with arduino digital ins - Pduino-0.5beta8 / > Firmata 2.1 > To: <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Message-ID: <821D925E7C144A22B5E3EE150BAE3EAC@meincomputer> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Hi, > > I'm having a problem with the arduino digital ins. > According to the arduino website there are pull up resistors inside the > ATmega that get activated automatically when the digital ins are turned on. > This is not the case here with the Pduino-0.5beta8. > When I connect ground to the pin it switches to 0 as expected. When I > disconnect the wire it starts switching randomly between 0 and 1. If I use > an "external" pullup resistor everything works as expected again. > I just read the help file from the pduino and it states that this is the > normal behaviour which shouldn't be the case with the internal pullup > resistors activated. > What's the problem with these internal pullup resistor not getting turned > on? > Is there a command I can (or have to) send to the arduino? > > I've tested this with a diecimila and duemilanove and Ubuntu 10.4 and > Windows XP. > Maybe there is a problem with Pduino or Firmata 2.1? > > Any ideas appreciated! > Cheers, Ingo

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Problem with Textfile and line with float
by thomas thiery 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi pd-list, test this patch, I saw a curious problem. I need to read line with "float" at the begining of a line and textfile can't do this. It's a pity -- Matohawk alias Th-Th www.th-th.fr

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Having two or more versions of Pd (both extended or both vanilla) in Ubuntu
by Matteo Sisti Sette 01 Jul '10

01 Jul '10

Hi, So it is relatively easy in Linux to have both Pd Extended and Vanilla (actually easier than in Windows). Now, how can I have for example two or more versions of Vanilla? I'd like to give a try to the rewrite-gui version but also have the "old" stable 0.42.5 for everyday use... In Windows I used to have more than one version because I often need to check differences in behavior, or check in which version a given bug was fixed or introduced, or a given feature added.... (yeah all versions shared the same registry folder i.e. same settings, and so did even extended and vanilla, but I could live with that) How do you do that in Linux? Thanks m.

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