Pd-list July 2009

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pd-extended on fluxbuntu
by Gabriel Vinazza 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

i got fluxbuntu 7.30 (there are no other fluxbuntu versions availables for download) unfortunately, pd has dependencies (tcllib, libfftw3-3, etc) that according to this are "not installable" :( probably fluxbuntu is very old, but still ... is there any way to make pd works with this os? On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Gabriel Vinazza<gabevinardi(a)gmail.com> wrote: > thx jaime, > > i already installed fluxbuntu and it seems to be everything fine... i > couldn't download pd since the site was down but now that it's up > again i don't know which version download (hardy netbook intrepid, > etc). what are their diferences? > > jorge suggested me not to download from the main pd page, he told me > about the pduino's page but i didn't find any download there :S > > > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 6:47 AM, Jaime Oliver<jaime.oliver2(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi, >> I use pd/gem in fedora without any problems whatsoever. Right now I just >> installed fedora 11 and it works perfect. >> do people here have any objective comparison between different linux >> distributions? >> as far as i understand, the ubuntu distributions work particularly well with >> dell machines, but that's as far as I can go comparing these... >> J >> >> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 12:22 PM, Gabriel Vinazza <gabevinardi(a)gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> thanks both, i'll check that >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2009 at 8:15 AM, matohawk<matohawk(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>> > fluxbuntu? >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > giucant a écrit : >>> >> >>> >> xubuntu >>> >> >>> >> --- Ven 17/7/09, Gabriel Vinazza <gabevinardi(a)gmail.com> ha scritto: >>> >> >>> >>> Da: Gabriel Vinazza <gabevinardi(a)gmail.com> >>> >>> Oggetto: [PD] Searching for a new OS >>> >>> A: "puredata mailing list" <pd-list(a)iem.at> >>> >>> Data: Venerdì 17 luglio 2009, 05:20 >>> >>> I have an IBM Thinkpad Pentium III >>> >>> 996 Mhz 256 Mb RAM, not a great >>> >>> deal but still works great with Win/Pd... Now I'm looking >>> >>> for a free >>> >>> OS that works well with Pd to say goodbye to Win, any >>> >>> suggestions? >>> >>> >>> >>> pd- I've tried pure:dyne already but something went wrong >>> >>> with the >>> >>> video :( I just want the simplest plan >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at >>> >>> mailing list >>> >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> > >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> -- >> Jaime E Oliver LR >> >> joliverl(a)ucsd.edu >> www.realidadvisual.org/jaimeoliver >> www-crca.ucsd.edu/ >> www.realidadvisual.org >> >> 858 202 1522 >> 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G >> La Jolla, CA 92037 >> USA >> >

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Re: [PD] Sysex out problems (linux only)
by András Murányi 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

> > 2009/7/8 Alex <x37v.alex(a)gmail.com> > >> I think that pd's midi out doesn't take whole sysex messages though, >> you simply send a stream of bytes. This is how it has been working >> for me. I created an abstraction which takes a list of bytes and >> makes it into a sysex message (stream of bytes) [adds the sysex start >> and start and then outputs bytes one by one] and it works quite well >> for me. >> > > If it's your list2sysex abstraction then I have already witnessed and tried > it...! So far with not more success than using a comma-separated list. > > >> Btw, the sysex loopback code [using the software through] that you >> sent initially does work for me.. I get the whole message. >> > > Hmm! Now I think I will have to try with some reliable midi-out hardware as > the the Audigy is rumoured to eat up sysex and my MOTU is going crazy, not > to mention that it does jack-midi only and the a2jmidid bridge is not so > very good with other than simple and slow tunes. > Now that i'm trying with a Midisport everything is OK. Another thing was that i was a bit lost in Yamaha's midi spec for the mu100 but i've found it out. ;) However now i see that pd's performace is becoming really waving as i'm tring to pump out more midi data. My old-new questions would be: - Provided that a knob is directly driving a sysex pattern which spits out way more data than necessary, who do i best slow down my data, staying realtime? I guess i shall drop some of it somehow, or i shall kinda resample the datastream. Could you Sirs recommend an economic way to do this? - My machine is a moderate powerhouse (Opteron 148 @2200, 4G), my kernel is rt and audio in pd is off however performance is waving, and my simple sequencer is becoming unstable. What are the crucial points of keeping the patch 'fast', where do you think i generally lose the most cpu? Thanks, Andras

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pd-conv paper
by ydegoyon＠gmail.com 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

ola, as Lluis Gomez i Bigorda and me cannot attend the pd conference, i would like just post the paper we prepared for it, before it gets lost in cyber space ... title is 'Enhancing Pd Interactivity with open CV', and the library 'pd_opencv' is also available there for PDP/PiDiP ( better tested ) and for Gem : http://giss.tv/chevil The latest version can also be obtained in SVN in trunk/externals/pdp_opencv and trunk/externals/pix_opencv... well for those interested in the subject. saludos, sevy pd ( post datum ) : i won't be in sao paulo neither to take care of the streams, hope somebody will and will upload documentation to a mediabase like this : http://giss.tv/dmmdb/piksel08... the people from hangar should know how to do this. pd 2 : it's not for me, i'll be away from the computer for a while.

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GEM: import vector graphics?
by Derek Holzer 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

Is there any way to import vector graphics, like .svg or similar, into GEM? Hopefully without rasterizing them (i.e. converting to .gif or similar)? I'd like to create images in Inkscape and animate them in GEM without having to deal with ugly-looking pixel issues like resolution, transparency etc. Unfortunately, Inkscape can't export an Alias/Wavefront .obj file. Suggestions? D. -- ::: derek holzer ::: http://blog.myspace.com/macumbista ::: http://www.vimeo.com/macumbista ::: ---Oblique Strategy # 44: "Discard an axiom"

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Re: [PD] video interviews from Montreal online
by Jonathan Wilkes 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

I started to download one of these but saw that it's ca. 500mb for a few minutes of video. I don't do a lot with video, but I'm sure someone on this list can tell you an easy way to compress a batch of video files. -Jonathan --- On Sat, 7/18/09, Greg Pond <gregpond(a)gmail.com> wrote: > From: Greg Pond <gregpond(a)gmail.com> > Subject: [PD] video interviews from Montreal online > To: "PD List" <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Date: Saturday, July 18, 2009, 3:54 PM > I finally made arrangements to edit > and post most of the interviews > Kevin and I collected in Montreal and elsewhere through my > university's webiste. These include Miller, Hans, > Chun, Bouchard, > Roman, and Frank. Selecting one of the names will produce a > menu of > short videos on specific topics. > > http://www.sewanee.edu/pd > > There are interviews from Yves and Alejandre, documentation > of > performances and artworks from Montreal as well as > interviews with > Claude and Ed from Janualry 2008 in London yet to edit and > post. Some > of that may be available Monday or Tuesday next week. > > I only conducted a few interviews in Montreal so this > documentation is > in no way comprehensive but is hopefully useful for > teaching and > thinking about where PD has been and where it is going. > > some of the videos may take a few minutes to load and I am > probably > going to relocate the videos to another site sometime in > the future > > sorry it took so long to get this much of it done. feedback > is > welcome- I am currently away from home with limited e-mail > this week. > > greg > > > > > http://www.sewanee.edu/pd > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at > mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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R: Searching for a new OS
by giucant 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

xubuntu --- Ven 17/7/09, Gabriel Vinazza <gabevinardi(a)gmail.com> ha scritto: > Da: Gabriel Vinazza <gabevinardi(a)gmail.com> > Oggetto: [PD] Searching for a new OS > A: "puredata mailing list" <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Data: Venerdì 17 luglio 2009, 05:20 > I have an IBM Thinkpad Pentium III > 996 Mhz 256 Mb RAM, not a great > deal but still works great with Win/Pd... Now I'm looking > for a free > OS that works well with Pd to say goodbye to Win, any > suggestions? > > pd- I've tried pure:dyne already but something went wrong > with the > video :( I just want the simplest plan > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list(a)iem.at > mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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Re: [PD] R: Searching for a new OS
by Lao Yu 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

On Jul 18, 2009, at 5:47 PM, Jaime Oliver wrote: Hi, I use pd/gem in fedora without any problems whatsoever. Right now I just installed fedora 11 and it works perfect. no problems in fedora? - you are lucky. Of course it would require more details as to how you achieved the 'no problem' state. From what I find on the various newsgroups that only those guys who have a serious proficiency in Linux reach that state. By proficiency I mean the capability to make oneself installers form source files, know 'by heart' all the different abbreviations used in terminal mode... The problems that made me put down Fedora was - no sound except PA playing back various types of system audio in mono through the inbuilt hardware (vlc, mp3 and all that stuff) - qcackctl crashes always - installing pd doesn't create an executable file that I would find - F10 recognizes my interface and thanks to the tremendous help of the driver maintainer (Florian Faber) I am sure that it works however there is no way that I found to use it under any application. In sum, I still look at my F10 partition at times but I'm waiting for the upgrades of other Linux installations which focus on sound / media that I just became aware of : - 64studio : jack works out of the box, but other stuff is bad (monitor for example) - from a live CD boot - AVLinux which is also about to upgrade - from the live CD at least Jack and other audio stuff was working out of the box. Fedora? I'm not so sure anymore but these 2 distros look promising. There is a good list here: http://linux-sound.org/distro.html Best Jurgen

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Meaning of "cosinesum" and "sinesum" arguments
by David F. Place 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

Hi, all. I've been trying to find a definition of the cosinesum and sinesum messages for arrays. Obviously, the first argument is the size of the array. The list of numbers that follow obviously relate to the harmonic partials in some way, but I'm not sure exactly how. Would someone please point me to the explanation? Thank you. Cheers, David

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why is midi out so slow?
by cyrille henry 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

hello, i do sometimes use the ctlout object to send midi data out of pd. but latency is very big (about 100ms) i'm using OSS midi on ubuntu linux with vanilia pd. using udpsend to send data to an other application that forward them to the midi out, a loop can be as small as 5ms. (using pdreceive >/dev/midi1 on a terminal by example, see attachment) why are the midi out objects in pd so slow, and is it possible to make them faster? thanks Cyrille #N canvas 97 271 626 429 10; #X obj 160 257 udpsend; #X msg 172 229 connect localhost 2348; #X floatatom 160 162 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 69 230 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 17 7 0 10 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 69 258 realtime; #X obj 122 127 b; #X floatatom 69 280 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X msg 160 188 send 176 111 \$1; #X obj 122 78 ctlin; #X floatatom 137 105 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X text 276 39 pdreceive 2348 > /dev/midi1; #X obj 171 208 loadbang; #X text 274 19 open a terminal and start :; #X text 277 60 then click on the connect message box; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 4 0; #X connect 4 0 6 0; #X connect 5 0 4 1; #X connect 7 0 0 0; #X connect 8 0 5 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 11 0 1 0;

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help needed: broadcast mode netsend(~) over UDP (from Mac OSX)
by Nicholas Mariette 19 Jul '09

19 Jul '09

hi, Can anyone advise on whether it's possible to do UDP broadcast (e.g. to 255.255.255.255 or more limited IP ranges) from netsend~ (by Olaf Matthes), or even netsend or other network objects? I've tried this and have not had any luck. I get this error: "connecting stream socket: Permission denied (13)" I then looked at the code of netsend~. I'm using an updated version available (with source) at: http://www.remu.fr/sound-delta/netsend~/ After some googling around about the (13) error, I tried setting SO_BROADCAST, which it seems might be necessary to enable broadcast mode. This didn't help - I still get the permission denied message. I have then tried several other network objects, like netsend (control data version), and have had no luck. If I could get any of these going in broadcast mode, I might be able to modify code to make something work. I've found some Pd list posts about broadcast working, but haven't been able to duplicate these results. e.g. http://markmail.org/thread/6bjcfzblukbynchp I've been working on a simple 192.168.x.x network between 2 computers, with direct message sending working without problems. I think I'm stuck for further ideas to get broadcast working... Can anyone suggest a solution - or even a next move?! cheers Nick

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