Pd-list July 2009

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Re: [PD] Fwd: PD t-shirts
by Ben Baker-Smith 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

I'm still interested in making some shirts. I've been real busy, but would like to make it happen sometime this summer. I guess I don't have much else to say, just re-affirming my interest. -Ben >this might help, in true diy Pd style! >http://www.instructables.com/id/Screen-Printing%3a-Cheap%2c-Dirty%2c-and-At… >cheers >On 21 Jul 2009, at 10:03, harris_pilton(a)gmx.de wrote: > just sent it to hc. sorry. > > Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: >> >> hi there, >> >> is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with >> the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang- >> until was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response >> on that!? >> i wanted to bring up the topic again - basically because i want a >> pd-tshirt too :) >> cheers

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Fwd: PD t-shirts
by harris_pilton＠gmx.de 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

just sent it to hc. sorry. Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > > hi there, > > is anybody still into the tshirt thing? i think i could help with > the printing. i'm not good at thinking of designs though. bang-until > was quite common-sense - afaik there hasnt been lot response on that!? > i wanted to bring up the topic again - basically because i want a > pd-tshirt too :) > cheers > Am 06.04.2009 um 06:23 schrieb Hans-Christoph Steiner: > >> >> I like the DIY way. It would be great if people organized their >> own fundraisers and bounties. I think that fits in well with the >> anarchic nature of Pd. >> >> There are things like cafepress.com for t-shirts and the like. It >> is more expensive than doing it yourself, probably, but its >> easier. It would be nice to see more than one Pd t-shirt >> available. I'd like bang-until and that cake, for example. >> >> .hc >> >> >> On Apr 2, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Ben Baker-Smith wrote: >> >>> Thanks Kyle, >>> >>> That's much more in line with what I'm looking to do. I also cannot >>> afford to go to PdCon given that it's all the way in Brazil, and I'm >>> sure the majority of Pd users are in the same boat. A documentation >>> bounty seems like a good way to encourage people to document, and >>> give >>> them a way of justifying their time. And, I agree, probably more >>> worthwhile than paying half of one person's ticket to Sao Paulo. >>> >>> In regards to designs, and printing: >>> >>> I'm thinking it might be cheapest (allowing more money to be raised) >>> for me to print the shirts myself.. I just need to come up with a >>> solid price estimate in the next couple days. Also, this seems more >>> in line with the do-it-yourself attitude of Pd than, say, e- >>> mailing a >>> .Gif file to an internet service and letting it all go through them. >>> >>> I have couple designs I've drawn up myself, and a few have been >>> submitted to me via this list. So, hopefully by the end of the >>> weekend, I will upload them to my site and post a link on the list >>> for >>> feedback. >>> >>> -Ben >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 2, 2009 at 1:24 AM, Kyle Klipowicz >>> <kyleklip(a)gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Yes, I agree that the fund should be for a documentation bounty. >>>> I think that Ben (or whoever makes the shirts) should hold the >>>> money in >>>> trust. Perhaps set up an interest-bearing account to save the >>>> cash in. Then >>>> create a well-documented (pun?) bounty description of what key >>>> features are >>>> to be implemented and the financial payment for each. >>>> You could do micropayments for key help patches or examples, say >>>> $20 US >>>> each, or a big bounty for larger sections such as re-organizing >>>> existing >>>> patches into a tidy intro library for new uses, with ready-mades >>>> to go. >>>> I think this would be a longer lasting value than paying for Pd- >>>> con. I'd >>>> love to go myself, but probably cannot afford it...but I'd rather >>>> see some >>>> solid documentation be built...or have the financial incentive to >>>> do it! >>>> (Not a capitalist, just a hungry belly). >>>> ~Kyle >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 9:34 AM, Ben Baker-Smith <bbakersmith(a)gmail.com >>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'm open to the idea of donating proceeds to PdCon. But, having >>>>> never >>>>> been, I have some clarifying questions/concerns. >>>>> >>>>> I would really prefer that any money from sales went toward >>>>> documentation, which in turn will increase useability and make >>>>> PD more >>>>> accessible to new users. Does the convention encourage/promote >>>>> documentation? Is time spent at the convention trying to >>>>> increase the >>>>> existing body of literature? >>>>> >>>>> If so, then I'm all for it. I just don't want to settle on >>>>> PdCon if >>>>> it's only useful to attendees. (of course, I understand that in a >>>>> good open-source community knowledge gained by any members >>>>> contributes >>>>> in some way to the knowledge of the group... but I'm talking more >>>>> formal documention rather than more answers on the mailing list) >>>>> >>>>> Glad to hear the interest. I'm still looking into the best way >>>>> to go >>>>> about printing, selling, and distributing. >>>>> If someone wants to partner up on this I'd be happy for the help >>>>> and >>>>> added input. >>>>> >>>>> -Ben >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Alexandre Castonguay >>>>> <acastonguay(a)artengine.ca> wrote: >>>>>> Hi Ben, all, >>>>>> >>>>>> We did the last batch of t's as a fundraiser for the Convention >>>>>> in >>>>>> Montréal. We managed to pay for another 1/2 plane ticket with >>>>>> the >>>>>> proceeds :-). Maybe the same could be done for São Paulo? >>>>>> >>>>>> The super folks from Graz sent the file they used for the >>>>>> original t's I >>>>>> should still have it if you want. >>>>>> >>>>>> À bientôt, >>>>>> >>>>>> Alexandre >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hello List, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm considering designing and selling PD related t-shirts. I >>>>>>> haven't >>>>>>> totally worked out the logistics. Basically I was inspired by >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> [Bang( shirts that I've seen online, but which are no longer >>>>>>> available >>>>>>> as far as I can tell. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, if I did so, I would like to donate all of the >>>>>>> proceeds toward >>>>>>> further PD development, specifically documentation of poorly >>>>>>> documented objects (or example patches, which is basically the >>>>>>> same >>>>>>> thing). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How do you all think would be the best way of going about this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should I stockpile the money and then offer it to someone as a >>>>>>> sort of >>>>>>> grant? That's less than ideal in my opinion. I really don't >>>>>>> know how >>>>>>> to go about this. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any/all input is welcome >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Ben >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> ----- >>>> ------------ >>>> ---- ----- >>>> ---- -------- - ------ >>>> http://perhapsidid.wordpress.com >>>> http://myspace.com/kyleklipowicz >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> http://benbakersmith.com >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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Endphase - Electronic Improvisation Concert in Porto, July 23rd
by João Pais 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

*Performance Endphase laptop trio - Endphase 16 "Countdown"* * Alberto Bernal, João Pais and Enrique Tomás — conceptual electronic improvisation* at the *Casa da Música* in Porto, Portugal. Thursday, 23rd of July at 19h00 - Sala 2. This concert is integrated in the *6th Sound and Music Computing Conference *- taking place at the Casa da Música between 23rd and 25th July. For further informations: http://www.endphase.net/ http://smc2009.smcnetwork.org/ <http://www.festivalcyl.com/>

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pics from São Paulo
by marius schebella 21 Jul '09

21 Jul '09

Hi, I put some pics online from Pdcon09 in SÃ£o Paulo. http://www.flickr.com/photos/23071290@N00/sets/72157621754454542 marius.

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Stereo simulation of multichannel audio [ot?]
by João Pais 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

Hi, my laptop trio Endphase (http://www.endphase.net/) is going to work out our archived recordings, so that we get decent stereo versions to spread around. Since many of them are multichannel (from 4 to 8) in different setups (not necessarily only 2d around the audience), we'll be searching for efficient ways to try to "convert" the original audio to stereo. That is, having a good as possible compromise between both situations, knowing that a 100% simulation is impossible. This is a field that I don't know that well, and we're still in the beginning of the work. Does anyone has any suggestions to which approaches are best? Ambisonics, phase inversion, hrtf, home medicine? Are any of these also available through Pd? (it would be nice to mix/spacialize the materials in Pd) Thanks, JoÃ£o Pais -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162 6843570 jmmmpais(a)googlemail.com | skype: jmmmpjmmmp

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video interviews from Montreal online
by Greg Pond 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

I finally made arrangements to edit and post most of the interviews Kevin and I collected in Montreal and elsewhere through my university's webiste. These include Miller, Hans, Chun, Bouchard, Roman, and Frank. Selecting one of the names will produce a menu of short videos on specific topics. http://www.sewanee.edu/pd There are interviews from Yves and Alejandre, documentation of performances and artworks from Montreal as well as interviews with Claude and Ed from Janualry 2008 in London yet to edit and post. Some of that may be available Monday or Tuesday next week. I only conducted a few interviews in Montreal so this documentation is in no way comprehensive but is hopefully useful for teaching and thinking about where PD has been and where it is going. some of the videos may take a few minutes to load and I am probably going to relocate the videos to another site sometime in the future sorry it took so long to get this much of it done. feedback is welcome- I am currently away from home with limited e-mail this week. greg http://www.sewanee.edu/pd

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pd for linux
by Alexandros Droseltis 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

Hello! I discovered pd yesterday (0.42.3-0.pm.1 for openSuSE) and I am amazed! I created some small "mini installations" by playing with it and reading the very nice tutorial at pd-tutorial.com and the doc that comes with it. Unfortunately when I tried to use [expr] it took me 2 hours to find out by experimenting, that in order to use it I have to start pd as pd -lib /complete/path/to/expr~ It was neither mentioned in the tutorial, nor in the doc that comes with it, nor anywhere else (where I searched). Are there any environment variables for these paths? Could you point out a URL to me that covers these basics? I would be grateful! Best Regards Alexandros

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why do [bp~] and [vcf~] sound different?
by Ichabod 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

(posted this on the Pd forum, but it was suggested that I e-mail the list as well, so here I am out of lurk mode) I was working on some patches with bandpass filters that were initially [vcf~], but I ended up deciding not to vary the center frequency, so I replaced them with [bp~]. Now I find that [bp~] sounds different; e.g., a [phasor~ 100] going through a [bp~ 440 3] sounds different from one going out the left outlet of a [vcf~ 3] with [sig~ 440] going into its center inlet. I couldn't find anything in the help files indicating that they're different other than using control vs. signal for the center frequency, so what's the deal? How do I replace a non-varying [vcf~] with a [bp~] that sounds the same? --Stefán

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[PD-announce] Blank Pages #7 - #8 - Berlin
by matohawk 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

Call for participation at the performance audio Blank Pages #7 et #8 Berlin – 05 and 06 of September - 2009 As part of the Nth Synthesis and Duo-THAM tour, we will organize two Blank Pages session (#7 and #8) in Berlin. We search for sound artists or musicians who work with the graphical programming environnements Pure Data or Max/MSP to interpretate the Blank Pages score. This score requires participants to play together and improvise without prior preparation. The Blank Pages score, describes the situation in 4 points : (http://blankpages.fr/score.html) : 60'00'' Pure Data Blank Page No load/No Save Participants are asked to bring a laptop with the software Pure Data or Max / MSP installed. Seating is limited. Please download and complied the field : http://www.blankpages.fr/registration-form.doc The performance will take place at : Session #7 05 september 2009 - 2pm Emitter19 Kiefholzstrasse 19 Berlin Session #8 06 september 2009 - 5pm NK Elsen str 52 2HH Berlin Feel free to visit the website of Blank Pages. For questions, please send a mail to Thomas Thiery : thomas_thiery(a)laposte.net For more information : Blank Pages : http://www.blankpages.fr Emitter 19 http://emitter19.blogsport.de NK : http://www.myspace.com/enka52 _______________________________________________ Pd-announce mailing list Pd-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Searching for a new OS
by Gabriel Vinazza 20 Jul '09

20 Jul '09

I have an IBM Thinkpad Pentium III 996 Mhz 256 Mb RAM, not a great deal but still works great with Win/Pd... Now I'm looking for a free OS that works well with Pd to say goodbye to Win, any suggestions? pd- I've tried pure:dyne already but something went wrong with the video :( I just want the simplest plan

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