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oggamp~ mp3amp~
by mami music 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

hi i tried this objects running on the same computer but using linux. same results. what is realy the problem???

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iemmatrix for macosx
by punchik punchik 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

hi, where can i find iemmatrix compiled for macosx intel? ive tried the one from here: http://www.netpd.org/Iemmatrix but when i load it i got this message /Applications/pd/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemmatrix.pd_darwin: dlopen(/Applications/pd/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemmatrix.pd_darwin, 10): no suitable image found. Did find: /Applications/pd/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemmatrix.pd_darwin: mach-o, but wrong architecture /Applications/pd/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7.app/Contents/Resources/extra/iemmatrix: can't load library do anybody know why i got this message and how to fix this? if is not possible, where can i get iemmatrix for macosx - intel? thanks p. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7

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Re: [PD] compiling iemmatrix for mactel
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

punchik punchik wrote: > hi, i got the iemmatrix sources from cvs > > im following iohanes advice for compiling using "cd > iemmatrix/src/ && autoconf && ./configure && make" > > but when i do make i get this: > > chikuns-computer:~/externals/iem/iemmatrix/src root# > make > In file included from iemmatrix.c:14: > iemmatrix.h:54:18: error: m_pd.h: No such file or > directory > make: *** [iemmatrix.d] Error 1 > > > do anybody have whats is going wrong here? Well yes, the compiler can't find m_pd.h. Normally it would be in pd/src next to externals/. If not you need to edit the makefile to match the actual path (look for -I../pd/src or something like that). Martin

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[PD-announce] Call for Papers: FLOSS+Art !!!DEADLINE EXTENDED!!! 1st Nov 2007
by propaganda＠goto10.org 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

sorry for >< please >> -- Extended Deadline Thanks to all the persons and groups who have replied to the call so far! Due to a growing demand for extra time, we have decided to extend the deadline. Please note that this new deadline will *not* be extended. Every paper/article/map received after the 1st of November 2007 midnight will not be published in the book. -- FLOSS+Art Call for Papers NEW DEADLINE: November 1st 2007 people.makeart is a new project by GOTO10. It is a repository of articles and lecture materials focused on the relationship between FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) and digital arts, as well as a database of free digital art projects. The selected papers will be published on the people.makeart website and will be printed in the FLOSS+Art book, scheduled for spring 2008, using OpenMute's POD publishing service. GOTO10 is now accepting new, old and recycled papers/articles/interviews/maps on the following issues: - opening digital art's practice, code and culture - FLOSS communities VS. art collectives - digital art licensing, copying and distributing, using open content models - role of the artist in FLOSS development - influence of FLOSS on digital art practices - free software to produce art and the art of producing free software - economy of an open digital artwork - FLOSS as an embedded political message in digital art - paradox and limitations of open licenses for digital art - FLOSS as a way to quote and embed other artworks in a new one - digital artist as a FLOSS developer/user and vice-versa - definitions and manifestos for a free software art - branching and forking of an open digital artwork - opening digital art to ensure future maintainance and porting Submission Procedures: - Submit your final paper to pmafloss-at-goto10-dot-org no later than September 15th, 2007. Include the text "FLOSS+Art" followed by your paper's title in your e-mail subject line. - Submit as many papers as you want, one mail submission for each. - Accepted formats : plaintext, LaTeX, OpenDocument No other file format will be accepted. - The paper must be attached to the mail, do not send us links - The submitted paper must be written in English - Paper must be 1500 words minimum More information: http://people.makeart.goto10.org/ :* The FLOSS+Art POD publishing is a collaboration between GOTO10, the Digital Research Unit of the University of Huddersfield and the Bergen Center for Electronics Arts with commissions and contributions from various organisations and institutions. _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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mp3amp~ oggamp~
by mami music 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Hi guys using pd with win im trying to connect to some GISS stations using mp3amp~ and oggamp~ but have not been able to receive any saound out of them. the message i get in pd is the following: mp3amp~: connecting to http:/giss.tv:8000/ondatoledo.mp3 mp3amp~: connected : socket opened mp3amp~: select done mp3amp~: send done mp3amp~ : received 74 bytes at 0 error: mp3amp~: cannot connect to the (default) stream mp3amp~: connection closed using oggamp~ i get the following: oggamp~: connecting to http://giss.tv:8000/ondapoligono.ogg oggamp~: unknown response from server can aybody tellme what im doing wrong? on previous oportunities i was trying to connect from a coputer that was behind a proxy but not now, so i guess that is not the problem. daniel

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I need an mp3 player for pd
by David Schaffer 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Hi there, I'm trying to use the mp3play~ object from the iemlib library on a win2k system, but I keep on getting a "Layer II not supported" error message, whatever mp3 I feed it with, even if soundforge says it's layer III. WHat should I do? Is it a bug or am I missing something? Does anyone know of another mp3 player in another library? Thank you. http://www.flickr.com/photos/schafferdavid/ http://audioblog.arteradio.com/David_Schaffer/ _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. Get it now! http://www.live.com/getstarted.aspx

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Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday
by Tahiroglu Tahiroglu 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

I am hosting a friend here who will have a gig tonight, probably I will not be able to make it for PDDP meeting, but definitly for the next one. And I hope there will be a log file from the meeting available on http://puredata.org/dev/pddp later on. Koray. ------------------------------ >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 19:28:46 -0400 >From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> >Subject: Re: [PD] reminder for tuesday >To: Steffen <stffn(a)dibidut.dk> >Cc: "pd-list(a)iem.at" <pd-list(a)iem.at>, marius schebella > <marius.schebella(a)gmail.com> >Message-ID: <99C74DB0-B0BB-4637-8023-3CA5EC095EC5(a)eds.org> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Sep 9, 2007, at 5:05 PM, Steffen wrote: > > On 09/09/2007, at 19.33, marius schebella wrote: > >> could someone repeat when and where the chat session for pd >> documentation will be on tuesday? > > It's nice to know that such meeting/chat has been meaning to happen. > - I've not come across it on this list, hence i guess it's been > fostered at the convention... >Yup, you are correct, I think we all forgot to post it to the list. >Here's the info: >http://puredata.org/dev/pddp >Next meeting is Tuesday, Sept. 11th > * 10.00 Pacific Time > * 13.00 Eastern Time > * 18.00 UTC (GMT) > * 19.00 Central European > * 20.00 Eastern European >.hc --------------------------------- Koray Tahiroglu

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Re: [PD] Simple PD GUI enhancement - like Max Toolbox
by Tahiroglu Tahiroglu 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Hello Batuhan (tekrar merhaba indeed) PD internal messages will even let you create your objects, connect them each other, create abstractions and so on not only through another PD patch, but through your terminal window as well. You can create your custom toolbox with bunch of abstractions and load them into your patches and you dont need any javascript either. As they mentioned earlier in the list DesireData will be definitely your choice and next test release will ( hopefully) have Turkish language choice as well:) Koray. >Message: 2 >Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 00:56:59 +0300 >From: Batuhan Bozkurt <batuhan(a)batuhanbozkurt.com> >Subject: Re: [PD] Simple PD GUI enhancement - like Max Toolbox >To: pd-list(a)iem.at >Message-ID: <46E5BDAB.1000103(a)batuhanbozkurt.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed >Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > On Sep 9, 2007, at 10:48 PM, Batuhan Bozkurt wrote: > >> pat wrote: >>> Batuhan Bozkurt a ?crit : >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> I've made the switch from Max/MSP to PD 1-1.5 years ago right before >>>> I switched my OS to linux and I'm loving almost every moment of it. >>>> But there is only one thing I got used to while I was using Max and >>>> after all those months of PD programming, I still miss that feature >>>> that was made possible with a js addition called "max toolbox". >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Batuhan >>> >>> hello, you might be interested about this: >>> >>> http://www.piksel.no/pwiki/DesireData >>> >>> in fact I believe after a discussion with a max user that the macro >>> feature of desiredata makes it better than max with toolbox. >>> >> Thanks! In fact I know about desiredata and I'm VERY excited about it. >> But it is still alpha and project seems halfway behind the first release >> in timeline. But when it is finished, it's gonna make things better than >> anything for sure! >> >> So the only feasible option for me is to wait? Or do you have any other >> suggestions for me? I can live much better with this simple hack I >> mentioned actually, but if it is so hard to implement by myself then >> I'll have to wait for sure. > > I believe that the Max Toolbox is a set of Max patches. I think the > same thing should be possible to implement using Pd patches as well. > I think you could get some of those features working without too much > hassle. > > .hc > > > >Yes, they are a set of patches but they are all implemented in max >"javascript" objects and they exploit the dynamic patch creation >possibilities of Max/MSP as you can create patches with scripting in >there, realtime. >Is there any facility like this in PD? Not necessarily javascript but >some sort of "controlling patches structure from another patch" facility? >If there is a way of connecting two objects together with a cable by >patching, and without actually drawing the connection by mouse then I'm >sure it will be fairly easy to do it. But I'm not aware of something >giving that possibility to me. Is there any? >Batuhan --------------------------------- Koray Tahiroglu

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Re: [PD] mp3live~ connection lost too little input
by ydegoyon＠free.fr 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

ola, mp3live~ has been thought for sending mp3 files over a lan, not the internet. for sending a mp3 stream through the internet, use mp3cast~ or oggcast~ ( better ), connected to an icecast server.. ah, of course you need an icecast server... and why don't you try sahabuntu? it has all tools to stream directly, sound or video ( ogg/theora format ).. http://gollum.artefacte.org/sahabuntu-7.04.11-i386.iso 'i am using windows' is not a terminal statement, only a PITA. from montreal, back from camping, sa'ha! sevy mami music wrote: > Hi i´m getting this error > stream connected. > connection lost (too little input) > stream connected. > connection lost (too little input) > stream connected. > connection lost (too little input) > stream connected. > connection lost (too little input) > > on the pd window of the remote computer when sending a stream over the internet using the mp3streamin~ object. It actually reproduces the sound but in an intermitent way, with silences. > > Is it problem of the network? > any clues on how can i solve this and have a decent smooth stream? > maby using other objects? > > ah, im working on windows can there be any incompatibility issue? > > thanks > > daniel > > >_______________________________________________ >PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >

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Simple PD GUI enhancement - like Max Toolbox
by Batuhan Bozkurt 11 Sep '07

11 Sep '07

Hello, I've made the switch from Max/MSP to PD 1-1.5 years ago right before I switched my OS to linux and I'm loving almost every moment of it. But there is only one thing I got used to while I was using Max and after all those months of PD programming, I still miss that feature that was made possible with a js addition called "max toolbox". It basically allows you to use your keyboard to connect objects to each other. For example, if you select n number of objects alligned from top to bottom and press "c", all of their left inlets and outlets will be connected in the same "top to bottom" fashion. There are also shortcut keys for connecting an outlet to multiple inlets of another object(these all work from top to bottom) and vice versa and bunch of other features. I only miss the "c" shortcut and these "outlet to multiple ins and inverse of it" features actually. Extensive mousing makes me feel uncomfortable and sometimes causes pain so those shortcuts were making my life a lot easier. I have some programming experience but they were always personal projects and I don't think I can understand PD internals well(C code). To achieve such functionality in PD what would my options be? I think all the gui is handled in pd.tk file with Tcl/Tk(I may be badly mistaken though) so would this be a matter of adding some stuff to tickle scripts? Or is it impossible to do without patching the C code? If I can find a feasible way to do it, I might work on it as the practicality that is gonna bring would be very huge(for me anyways). Any clues on the possibility of this addition? Here is the youtube video of the max toolbox thingy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcqF9hDNoJk I'm pretty sure that most of you know about that but if you've never heard of it, then there is the link. Thanks, Batuhan

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