Pd-list September 2007

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258 discussions

glitchy [tabread] or ..?
by ild0012＠londonmet.ac.uk 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

i have noticed that [tabread] doesn't work as i expected it just outputs too many zeroes, and only gives values for some of the elements of the array it heppends just even in the helppatch .. it actually gives not a zero only for the EVEN values of index .. . BUT for less then a half of the values it is unusable for me like this .... the help patch doesn't say anything about even or odd values of index so once i set the array by banging the msg box, i can get values for: 0 and below -> 1 , 2 -> 4 , 4 -> 2 , 6 -> 8 , 8 -> 5 while array contains: 1 4 2 8 5 6 1 4 2 8 so i just put: |number | [* 2] | [tabread array99] | |number ^that gave me right values up to index[4], so where is the rest ?? can anyone help, please . -- .i.y

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PD 0.39.3-extended-rc5 pretty solid?
by Phil Stone 15 Sep '07

15 Sep '07

Hi Hans, I'm refactoring the synthesizer I released a couple of weeks ago (polywavesynth -- no more camels, Frank!), and I very much want to use Mr. Peach's OSC object, which are rolled into 0.39.3-ex-rc5. I'm wondering if it's wise, at this point, to require 0.39.3-ex-rc5 for my synth? It seems pretty stable -- it's just that it's still in autobuilds and I don't know if it needs to be frozen before I should specify it -- keeping in mind that it might be novices downloading and using this rc5. I'm also eagerly following the 0.40 autobuilds (or was, until the MacIntel machine disappeared :-) ), and look forward to a stable release there - but I suppose that's a bit further away, eh? Thanks for what you do with PD-extended; there wouldn't be a chance of an object like polywavesynth being usable by novices without it. Phil Stone pkstonemusic.com

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a problem with readsf~ and -resize
by David Schaffer 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hi there, Something weird happened today as I was trying to use two instances of readsf~ connected to the same "open..." message: one of the instances would read the file fine while the other would output an error message saying that the file header was unrecognized. I tried to delay the "open..." message in one of the instances, but I could'nt. Has anyone had the same problem already? I had another unexpected error message when trying to -maxsize and then -resize an array to a large size: it would say something like "resize faiiled". I'm on win2k, using vanilla version 0.39, what can I do?! Thank you all for your help. D.S

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to the PDDP folks
by B. Bogart 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hey all, Just a reminder that the next meeting is next Tuesday the 18th, and I've put a TODO list and a tentative agenda on the wiki: https://www.puredata.info/dev/pddp/FrontPage Be sure to get your homework done, or see where you can help out and make a contribution! Thanks, B. Bogart

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org.puredata.plist in Mac bundle
by Jamie Bullock 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hi, With Pd-extended it seems that it is possible to leave the .plist file inside the .app bundle, and Pd will read it from there. How is this achieved? I would like to take a vanilla Pd, and have it read the .plist file from inside the bundle rather than (~)/Library/Preferences. Jamie -- www.postlude.co.uk

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(no subject)
by jovan cvet. 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hi there, I'm writing to you because I 'm coming to NY at the end of September, and I'm very interested in PD. I'm a video artist, movie maker from Germany (munich) and a beginner with PD. I'd like to use my time (6 weeks)in NY to learn more about PD and looking forward to meet with people there, who would like to give me some gain inside. Please If you have any info, any tip how to get in contact there with some, please write. best wishes, best regards jovan -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal fÃ¼r Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer

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Midi Clock and Syncing Strategies
by Si Mills 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hello List I was wondering what the current state of play is with regard to syncing to midiclock on OSX? (and windows I guess too). I have managed to either generate a midi timecode or read it using [midirealtimein] over the IAC bus and using [alternate] and [timer] to create the clock in PD. (incidently [midirealtimein] shouldn't work on OSX but it outputs something akin to 24pulse/quarter note!). However, jitter makes it simply unusable for anything serious. I suspect there needs to be some sort of lower level support as midi over iac is not timetagged and relatively low priority in the OS. I have seen a number of objects such as [midiclkin] or [midirealtimein] but they either seem to be incomplete or supported on one platform. What is the currently the best strategy to syncing to either other apps, or hardware for that matter? If one of the developers could shed some light on this that would be much appreciated. Many thanks Si

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Failed phase vocoder
by Owen Cannon 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Hi list I made a phase vocoder based on txts & examples on www, and it doesn't work. It's in a zip file at <http://tinyurl.com/2bts5j> (see the voc subpatch of canvas.pd). - The Hann array (hann) holds the first 1/3 samples of a window generated using an [osc~] at frequency of (samplerate 44100 / blocksize 2048)* - Sample list from $1-phase-imag & $1-phase-real array properties window do not appear. - The console repeats 'error: dac~: bad vector'. Any ideas? regards Owen *) that is lifted from I07.phase.vocoder pd-hann-window -- best wishes OC Many ambitions to excel which tantalize mortals in the flesh will not persist with these same mortals in the spirit careers. 44:8.4

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Is this wierd or am I missing something?
by Ed Kelly 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

I made a GOP abstraction, you'll see a few of them soon. But I get a wierd thing when I try to initialise a certain value. Someone please point out the error of my ways, maybe I can't see the wood for the trees!!! By the way, hello all, and thank you for your wonderful company in Montreal. Look forward to seeing you again soon. Ed Lone Shark "Aviation" out now on http://www.pyramidtransmissions.com http://www.myspace.com/sharktracks --------------------------------- Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. 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"object" or "class" in pdpedia
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 14 Sep '07

14 Sep '07

Marius and I are sitting here arguing over whether we should use the term "class" or "object" in the pdpedia as the standard term for differentiation, e.g. bang (class) vs. bang (selector). I think the current usage of the term "object" in Pd has two meanings: an instance of a class, and the class itself. I think we should distinguish between these two in the pd wiki, and the word "class" is quite well established for that. Yes, that means some education for some users, but that's a big part of the pdpedia mission. That's my take, Marius will now disagree. :D .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams

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