Pd-list June 2007

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Midi controller for use with Pd
by David F. Place 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Dear Pd-ists, Thanks for all the advice about the Edirol UA-25. I got one and it works great! The next thing I need is an input device that will allow me to send timing, velocity and (hopefully) pressure information to my pd patches. I think some of the midi drum controllers would work, but they seem like overkill with all their pre-programmed effects and sounds. Has anyone any experience using a simple device like a trigger pad for a midi drum kit? Maybe something like the Roland PD-8? Cheers, David ___________________ (---o-------o-o-o---o-o-o----( David F. Place mailto:d@vidplace.com

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plot
by tania habib 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Hello list, I need some help in finding the object which can plot 2-D and 3-D curves. for example if i have two vectors and I need to plot frequecy versus angle curve/ plots the data after the simulation are complete. Kindly suggest which library supports these functions regards, tania

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GUI in Mac OS X
by Julian Villegas 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Hi, I want to know how to implement a GUI for a Pd patch using Cocoa in OS X Tiger (10.4.9). I tried using paradiddle, but I think (I'm not sure about this, though) that the "Project Builder" was replaced by "Xcode," and when I tried to run the examples, I got a message in the console saying "Unknown class `PDController' in nib file, using `NSObject' instead." And the application doesn't run. Is anybody using something similar? I know griPD, but it's not available for Mac, any suggestions, ideas? Thanks a lot!!! Julian Villegas Me pregunto de un modo pensativo Que significa ser Colombiano? No se le respondi. Es un acto de fe JLB. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Get the free Yahoo! toolbar and rest assured with the added security of spyware protection. http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/norton/index.php

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[OT] Voice Synth
by josue moreno 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Hi everyone, can anyone tell me if there is some software for simulate singing voices? It can be cool if there is a spanish oriented one my OS is Mac OS X 10.4.8 ppc thanks _________________________________________________________________ Descarga gratis la Barra de Herramientas de MSN http://www.msn.es/usuario/busqueda/barra?XAPID=2031&DI=1055&SU=http%3A//www…

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pix_image load status output
by marius schebella 09 Jun '07

09 Jun '07

Hi, is there a possibility to get info within the pd patch whether pix_image has successfully loaded an image? I am reading files from a network drive which sometimes is not accessable, and in that case I would like to get an error message from pix_image, or a success message if the image was loaded. any ideas? thanks. marius.

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Re: [PD] please help adding OSC to puredata 0.40 - AMd64
by bernardo amorim 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

nope sorry but the lib keeps giving me errors while loading anyone? On 6/8/07, Mike McGonagle <mjmogo(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I have done this on the Mac by moving the externals from their OSC > folder (which doesn't seem to load like the others do) into the main > "extras" folder. You may also might want to try putting them in the > "flatspace" folder, as that is the place for externals that are not > apart of another package. > > Not sure if this will work, but it's worth a shot... > > Mike M > > On 6/8/07, bernardo amorim <bernardo.amorim(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > Hello everyone. im trying to add osc support to my existing puredata > > installation and i cant find my way in this mess. > > Can anyone help > > my system is an amd x2 dual core with ubuntu feisty installed. > > please help > > > > > > -- > > Raging_Synth > > Bernardo Gomes de Amorim - 2006 > > > > Confidencialidade de Correio electrónico > > Este email destina-se exclusivamente à(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigido e > não > > deverá em caso algum ser reencaminhado ou reutilizado para nenhum fim a > não > > ser aquele para o qual foi criado. Aplicável tambem aos attachments. > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > > > -- > Help the Environment, Plant a Bush back in Texas! > > "I place economy among the first and most important republican > virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. > To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with > perpetual debt." > -- Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826) > > "Give Peace a Chance" -- John Lennon (9 October 1940 – 8 December 1980) > > Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything > we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. > —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician > > If you think you can, or you think you can't, you are probably right. > —Mark Twain > -- Raging_Synth Bernardo Gomes de Amorim - 2006 Confidencialidade de Correio electrónico Este email destina-se exclusivamente à(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigido e não deverá em caso algum ser reencaminhado ou reutilizado para nenhum fim a não ser aquele para o qual foi criado. Aplicável tambem aos attachments.

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Re: [PD] elitism, software and academia (was GEM FTGL Sadness)
by Jamie Bullock 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hi Jared, On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 07:16 +0100, jared wrote: > While I'm ranting :-)....In my academic experience, it's often frowned > upon to use other's patches in your own compositions because it seems > that the patches themselves are the work of art; and it's almost as if > this is considered plagiarism. I don't know what your academic experience is, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest the opposite of what you are saying. The sharing of PD patches and abstractions is commonplace in the PD community. Currently in the CVS there are: pd/ 424 pd patches externals/ 3464 pd patches abstractions/ 953 pd patches That doesn't include ad-hoc patches people have shared via the mailing list, of which I have 847 on my computer grabbed from the list archive. All of these are publically available, and free for use in your own work. They range from simple help files to complex abstractions and patches. > I think academia needs to recognize that there are many composers who > use computers as a means to an end; I find this patronising, almost offensive. Do you have any examples of academics who don't recognise this? Even if you do, you shouldn't make generalisations about an entire community based on a few personal examples. > who make music with the AID of > computers; not to make music WITH computers. Could you explain the difference? > There is still a rigid > line that separates the composer and the programmer. Where is this rigid line? Do you have any evidence for it? As far as I can tell there exists a continuum like this: composer <-> composer/programmer <-> programmer I know many people who are in the middle of this - straddling the 'line' between composer and programmer. > Most Music > curriculums are still classically based. Most Music Technology > curriculums are programming based. I'm not sure if this is true or not, but if it were, it might be because there is 'most' demand for classically-based music courses and 'programming-based' music technology courses... However, in the UK, there are many jazz-based and other non-classical graduate music courses, as well as music technology courses that contain no programming elements at all. There are also hybrid 'Sonic Art' courses that bring in elements from the visual arts, music and information technology. I suspect this the case in other countries also. > What about today's composers who are > interested in classical compositional techniques and forms, but who are, > at heart, electronic music composers and want to apply these classical > techniques and forms to their electronic compositions with the AID of > technology, yet have no interest in programming? They should use software that doesn't require any programming. I would suggest something like Beast (http://beast.gtk.org) if they are Linux, Bidule (http://www.plogue.com/) if they are on Mac OS, Audiomulch (http://www.audiomulch.com/) if they are on Windows. Any of these would provide a good entry point for beginners who could later move on to something with a dataflow programming element like PD. Jamie

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Re: [PD] isn't the GUI supposed to have lower priority than process?
by Matteo.sistisette 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

> there are other issues as well, which cause drop outs, that might be > avoidable: > > all this issues cannot be 'worked around' within pd, which makes pd > sometimes not very suitable for presenting/live situations. That's exactly what I meant in my previous message in the "pd evolution" thread. That is definitely something I have already heard before: that pd is not suitable or reliable for live/presentation. If a system which is entirely focused on REAL-TIME isn't suitable for presenting/live situations, then it is practically a prototyping tool as far as real-time is concerned! I think that everything that causes dropouts (associated to action that are reasonably supposed to be done at "any time") should be considered a bug with high priority, if the words "real time" are not to be stripped off from the definition of PD. -- Email.it, the professional e-mail, gratis per te: http://www.email.it/f Sponsor: Monitor LCD 17 160 - Cdr Memorex da 0,16 - Multifunzione Canon 63,94 - Stampa foto digitale da 0,06 Custodia dvd da 0,11. Questo e molto altro ancora su atomicshop.it Clicca qui: http://adv.email.it/cgi-bin/foclick.cgi?mid=6578&d=20070605

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please help adding OSC to puredata 0.40 - AMd64
by bernardo amorim 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hello everyone. im trying to add osc support to my existing puredata installation and i cant find my way in this mess. Can anyone help my system is an amd x2 dual core with ubuntu feisty installed. please help -- Raging_Synth Bernardo Gomes de Amorim - 2006 Confidencialidade de Correio electrónico Este email destina-se exclusivamente à(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigido e não deverá em caso algum ser reencaminhado ou reutilizado para nenhum fim a não ser aquele para o qual foi criado. Aplicável tambem aos attachments.

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pd-extended on kubuntu/feisty
by Alexandre Castonguay 08 Jun '07

08 Jun '07

Hello all, Hans-Christoph, I was trying to compile pd-extended on kubuntu/feisty from the cvs today and stumbled on a few problems : cd /home/alx/pd/pure-data/externals/iem16/src && autoconf configure.ac:40: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_CFLAGS If this token and others are legitimate, please use m4_pattern_allow. See the Autoconf documentation. configure.ac:156: error: possibly undefined macro: AC_CHECK_LDFLAGS It worked after downgrading automake to 1.9 from 1.10...but now I'm stuck here : /home/alx/pd/pure-data/externals/build/src/../../zexy/src/zexy.h:47:23: error: zexyconf.h: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [/home/alx/pd/pure-data/externals/build/src/any2list.o] Error 1 I'm doing this to try [hid] or [hidio] since I just got the usb retropad for the nes. I hope NIME is a lot of fun. Cheers, Alexandre

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