Pd-list April 2007

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re-animate PD - Stammtisch Berlin ??
by Luigi Rensinghoff 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

I was wondering if anyone based in Berlin is interested in re-animate some kind of unofficial PD-Stammtisch/Meeting. Let me know ;-) Let us meet ;-) Luigi

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gate's problem
by Andy Farnell 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:21:21 +0100 From: Andy Farnell <padawan12(a)obiwannabe.co.uk> To: isabel_pires(a)excite.com Subject: Re: [PD] gate's problem On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:52:04 -0400 (EDT) "Isabel Pires" <isabel_pires(a)excite.com> wrote: > good morning, > > I have some problems with "gate". when I open saved patch the with gate's > objet I ha the message "couldn't create" but if I rename the object it > is create. rename it to [iemlib/gate] and it should always load ok Why does this happen? Does the above advice always work. I don't understand the reason but assume it's a path search/search order issue. Andy -- Use the source -- Use the source

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[PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc1 released
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html Ok, finally another release for Pd-0.39.2-extended. After a long pause, it's time for a code freeze and debugging. That means Release Candidate 1. Yes, there are known bugs, and most definitely unknown bugs. Let's find them and make a final release! There are two important changes in this release: * DejaVu Sans Mono is now default font * same sizes and layout on all platforms That means you need to install the font "DejaVu Sans Mono" if you don't already have it installed: http://dejavu.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page The use of this font is not set in stone, we can use another, but it needs to be free. Here are some screenshots of the fonts that I tried: http://pow.idmi.poly.edu/~hans/pdfonts/ .hc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Man has survived hitherto because he was too ignorant to know how to realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos Williams _______________________________________________ PD-announce mailing list PD-announce(a)iem.at http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-announce

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Re: [PD] font size survey - please try it on your machine!
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Perfect, thanks. .hc On Apr 17, 2007, at 10:33 AM, olsen wrote: > sorry for the previous post - this is what i got with Pd-0.39.2- > extended-test7 on kubuntu running fluxbox > > Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: >> >> Just to know what we are up against with the font size problem, I >> have started a patch to document all the key parts. Please try it >> on your machine to see if my measurements are correct. Also, >> please fill in any that you are running. >> >> >> Just post the results to the list, or if you have CVS commit >> access, you can check it in to doc/font_sizes.pd. >> >> .hc >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> >> You can't steal a gift. Bird gave the world his music, and if you >> can hear it, you can have it. - Dizzy Gillespie >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >> listinfo/pd-list >> > > -- > Planet Pluto bleibt! > > > #N canvas 23 36 968 609 10; > #X obj 241 386 cnv 15 69 16 empty empty 69x16 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 241 355 cnv 15 78 20 empty empty 78x20 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 611 387 cnv 15 70 17 empty empty 70x17 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 21 389 Mac OS X; > #X text 20 357 Windows; > #X text 21 417 GNU/Linux; > #X obj 711 387 cnv 15 70 17 empty empty 70x17 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 811 387 cnv 15 60 15 empty empty 60x15 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 490 162 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 8 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 509 166 courier10; > #X obj 620 92 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 9 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 640 94 courier10; > #X text 621 113 Windows/0.39.2-extended-test7; > #X obj 611 357 cnv 15 60 17 empty empty 60x17 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 711 357 cnv 15 60 17 empty empty 60x17 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 241 406 cnv 15 87 19 empty empty 87x19 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 17 314 these represent the size of this message box:; > #X msg 346 313 courier10; > #X text 15 1 the fonts line up on these platforms:; > #X obj 139 35 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 9 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 157 41 courier10; > #X obj 103 389 cnv 15 69 16 empty empty 69x16 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 91 334 0.39.2-extended-RC1; > #X text 240 335 0.39.2-extended-test7; > #X text 613 335 0.39-2; > #X text 713 334 0.40-2; > #X text 803 334 devel 0.39-1test1; > #X obj 401 386 cnv 15 69 16 empty empty 69x16 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 400 335 0.38.4-extended; > #X obj 522 387 cnv 15 70 17 empty empty 70x17 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 524 335 0.38-4; > #X text 18 444 these represent the size of this comment:; > #X obj 140 240 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 10 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 158 243 courier10; > #X obj 100 500 cnv 7 52 7 empty empty 52x7 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 21 499 Mac OS X; > #X text 20 467 Windows; > #X text 21 527 GNU/Linux; > #X obj 714 500 cnv 7 63 8 empty empty 63x8 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 404 500 cnv 7 62 7 empty empty 62x7 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 20 170 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 12 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 39 174 courier10; > #X text 47 212 12 pt; > #X text 176 284 10pt; > #X text 656 129 9 pt; > #X obj 20 35 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 12 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 39 39 courier10; > #X text 47 77 12 pt; > #X text 40 64 0.38-4; > #X text 40 199 0.40-2; > #X text 139 64 devel 0.39-1test1; > #X text 140 265 0.39-2-extended-rc1; > #X text 32 16 ---------- Mac OS X ----------; > #X obj 524 500 cnv 7 63 8 empty empty 63x8 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 435 442 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ; > #X text 445 312 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > ; > #X obj 614 500 cnv 7 63 8 empty empty 63x8 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 21 102 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 12 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 40 106 courier10; > #X text 48 144 12 pt; > #X text 41 131 0.39-2; > #X text 141 78 9 pt (closest); > #X obj 810 500 cnv 6 53 6 empty empty 53x6 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 490 92 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier10 20 12 0 8 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 509 96 courier10; > #X text 518 113 0.39-2; > #X text 512 16 ---------- Windows ----------; > #X text 498 129 8 pt (closest); > #X text 519 186 0.40-2; > #X obj 614 470 cnv 5 51 5 empty empty 51x5 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 496 202 8 pt (closest); > #X obj 714 470 cnv 5 51 5 empty empty 51x5 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X text 296 443 courier10; > #X obj 315 84 cnv 15 100 60 empty empty courier8 20 12 0 8 -233017 > -66577 0; > #X msg 334 87 courier10; > #X text 316 105 Kubuntu/0.39.2-extended-test7; > #X text 351 121 8 pt; > #X obj 241 429 cnv 15 87 17 empty empty 87x17 2 12 0 9 -128992 -66577 > 0; > #X obj 244 531 cnv 7 80 10 empty empty 80x10 2 15 0 11 -128992 -66577 > 0; ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson

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Arduino stuff
by Tim Boykett 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hi, a couple of questions about arduinos and PD and stuff. I hope they aren't somewhere obvious; I haven't been able to find any answers. - is it possible to have multiple arduinos being talked with by one PD patch on one machine? Has anyone tried this? - is there a Max version of the Pduino interface stuff? We are a multiple platform house, so it would be good if we could use the same arduino firmware for multiple platforms, i.e. PD and Max. - Bluetooth Arduino: any luck on linux or OSX so far? Last I heard there were problems... Cheers, Tim

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Re: [PD] gate's problem
by Isabel Pires 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

yes. I see. it was a proble of librarys reading. that arrived when I opened the patch by double click. if I open PD before and then the patch, i havo no problème. --- On Tue 04/17, Andy Farnell < padawan12(a)obiwannabe.co.uk > wrote: From: Andy Farnell [mailto: padawan12(a)obiwannabe.co.uk] To: pd-list(a)iem.at Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:24:36 +0100 Subject: [PD] gate's problem Begin forwarded message: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 12:21:21 +0100 From: Andy Farnell <padawan12(a)obiwannabe.co.uk> To: isabel_pires(a)excite.com Subject: Re: [PD] gate's problem On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 17:52:04 -0400 (EDT) "Isabel Pires" <isabel_pires(a)excite.com> wrote: > good morning, > > I have some problems with "gate". when I open saved patch the with gate's > objet I ha the message "couldn't create" but if I rename the object it > is create. rename it to [iemlib/gate] and it should always load ok Why does this happen? Does the above advice always work. I don't understand the reason but assume it's a path search/search order issue. Andy -- Use the source -- Use the source _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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KnobsAndSlidersAndTogglesDS
by Chris McCormick 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Hey All, If you use Puredata and you own a Nintendo DS then you might like to download KnobsAndSlidersDS v0.2 - I finally found time to incorporate Frank's DS-button and toggle patches (thanks Frank!) and do a couple of speed tweaks (with more to come in the next version). <http://mccormick.cx/projects/KnobsAndSlidersDS/> Have fun! Chris. ------------------- http://mccormick.cx

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Question on RTC
by Mike McGonagle 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

Frank, I was working with some of the RTC stuff over the weekend and I had a question about the abstraction 'xrandom'. While I understand that you were probably basing this on the 'xrandom' from the Max version of this, I would think that as is, 'xrandom' is a little different from similar objects. As this is based on the 'urne' abstraction, and it seems to follow the same premise as the 'textfile' and 'qlist' objects, I would think that 'xrandom' would do this as well. Basically, the difference that I see is that each of these other objects ('urne', 'textfile', etc.), all produce an output on the left as long as there is more to output, and bangs on the right outlet after the list is done, and does NOT output anything on the right. 'xrandom', on the other hand, DOES produce an output on the LEFT at the same time it is outputting a bang on the right to indicate that the list of objects is complete. This seems a little cumbersome, as this output on the LEFT is actually the first element from the next iteration of the set. This gives a false indication as to where the list of numbers ends. On the first iteration through the list, it would send out one more item than is in the list, and each subsequent iteration is "shifted" by one element. While I can see that this would not really be an issue if you are not using the 'end of list' bang on the right outlet, but if you are, it doesn't break the list at the real boundries. To change this behaviour, I removed the 'bang' from the [clear, bang( message that gets sent at the end of the iteration. So, is what I am describing better done using other means? Is 'xrandom' expected to be used as a "bang as much as you want" type of abstraction? Is this behaviour based on the RTC/Max version? Does any of this make sense? Mike McG -- Help the Environment, Plant a Bush back in Texas! "I place economy among the first and most important republican virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with perpetual debt." -- Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826) "Give Peace a Chance" -- John Lennon (9 October 1940 – 8 December 1980) Peace may sound simple—one beautiful word— but it requires everything we have, every quality, every strength, every dream, every high ideal. —Yehudi Menuhin (1916–1999), musician If you think you can, or you think you can't, you are probably right. —Mark Twain

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gate's problem
by Isabel Pires 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

good morning, I have some problems with "gate". when I open saved patch the with gate's objet I ha the message "couldn't create" but if I rename the object it is create. Somebody have suggestions to solve this? Thanks Isabel _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web!

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Re: [PD] [PD-announce] Pd-0.39.2-extended-rc1 released
by alberto.zin＠poste.it 16 Apr '07

16 Apr '07

Hi Hans, list, thanks for this extended RC 1! I like the new font... I've two small points: 1) gripd "examples" folder is missing (at least here), making the examples non working. I just put a previous version of the folder an put it in the /gripd directory and it's ok. 2) I tried it on Win, and the console fonts are kind of "huge" compared to previous versions.. seems like a font size 14... Is it wanted ? cheers, Alberto Zin http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ

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