Pd-list April 2007

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can't run Gem in Fedora with generic graphics (no GLX shader)?
by Miller Puckette 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi all, I've been trying to compile and run Gem on my Fedora 5 box, i386, clean install, on-board Intel graphics. Gem fails to load complaining as follows: $ pd/bin/pd -nogui -lib Gem/src/Gem ./Gem/src/Gem.pd_linux: ./Gem/src/Gem.pd_linux: undefined symbol: +glGetShaderInfoLog Gem/src/Gem: can't load library Gem works fine on another machine I'm using with the proprietry nvidia driver. Is there a way to either: (1) install the "GLX shader" extension on generic hardware, or (2) compile Gem with "shading" disabled? thanks Miller

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Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
by paris＠parisgraphics.com 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

personally, i'd try debian first and if your new machine has built in wireless, use ndiswrapper. the wiki has very good documentation and i've set up several people's machines (all dells except mine) with this. best, p > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use? > From: "David Powers" <cyborgk(a)gmail.com> > Date: Thu, April 19, 2007 10:43 am > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > > Question: I'm considering a dual boot because my old laptop with > Debian died, and I got a new one, currently with XP (running blackbox > for windows though, thanks Frank!). However, one thing I recall is > that on my old laptop, the system was freezing until the kernel was > patched. Having to patch the kernel before anything works. I also > could never get that computer on the internet through USB wireless (it > had no built in wireless card), and these days I pretty much depend on > some sort of wireless connection to get on the internet, I'm mostly > working away from home. I found that Debian was impossible to use > without an internet connection, and it was quite a catch22 trying to > fix anything, when I couldn't search for info and apt-get things to > try to solve the problem. So, what I'm saying is, I WANT to intall > Debian, but I'm very afraid to do so and have the same kind of > probems. My newer computer (used one year) though, is a Dell Inspiron > 630m, which my old employer let me keep when I left, while the old one > was some PIII Toshiba. Can I expect an easier time with the install of > Debian on a newer laptop? My friend led me to believe the problems > were related to having an older laptop. Or should I try Ubuntu first > if I'm doing it myself, and wait for 6 months for the Debian until I'm > more comfortable with it all? I guess it's the hardware/wireless > config + kernel recompiling that I'm worried about. ~David On 4/18/07, > Frank Barknecht wrote: > Hallo, > Roman Haefeli hat gesagt: // Roman > Haefeli wrote: > > > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 17:01 +0200, Frank > Barknecht wrote: > > > Me, too. Debian rules. Other than that > pure:dyne rules as well. > > > > i agree, though ubuntu is also a > debian derivative, but sometimes much > > easier to use than debian > and from my experience comes with better > > maintained repos. as a > beginner, i'd still vote for ubuntu. > > _______________________________________________ PD-list(a)iem.at mailing > list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list

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Re: [PD] list without spaces (gottlieb)
by Thomas Ouellet Fredericks 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

There is an excellent sampler architecture in the pdmtl abstractions called the sample_id format. It probably does what you need. Download the release here: http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions Try out the examples in pdmtl/examples/sample_id It can preload samples, load them in real time, send them to multiple targets, visualize the sample. change the play region, etc... Tom

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Re: [PD] GEM: animations II
by Javier García 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

What's you opinion about this i have found? http://tfc.duke.free.fr/old/models/md2.htm Do you think it could serve to load 3d models with integrated animations in GEM? Im anxious to start developing ^^ >From: Cypod <cypod25(a)gmail.com> >To: "Javier GarcÃa" <tirengarfio(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [PD] GEM: animations II >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:25:42 -0700 > >pix_image also only gives you a planar mapping for the uvs, not as >flexiable as some other programs, but its real-time, so you don't have >to wait to renders. > >This and the animation problem can largely be fixed by cutting up your >models and rebuilding then in pd > >On 4/18/07, Javier GarcÃa <tirengarfio(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>Hi, >> >>I've been looking for information about the OBJ format which Pd uses to >>import 3d models. I've found out this format doesn't support animations, >>so >>if i try to implement code to load models with animations integrated I >>should forget the OBJ format, and remake the job about loading 3d models >>with another 3d format as base. >> >>I'm newbie in Pd, so what's it your opinion? >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Moda para esta temporada. Ponte al dÃa de todas las tendencias. >>http://www.msn.es/Mujer/moda/default.asp >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > >-- >B~ >www.cypod.co.nr _________________________________________________________________ Grandes Ã©xitos, superhÃ©roes, imitaciones, cine y TV... http://es.msn.kiwee.com/ Lo mejor para tu mÃ³vil.

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GEM: animations II
by Javier García 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Hi, I've been looking for information about the OBJ format which Pd uses to import 3d models. I've found out this format doesn't support animations, so if i try to implement code to load models with animations integrated I should forget the OBJ format, and remake the job about loading 3d models with another 3d format as base. I'm newbie in Pd, so what's it your opinion? _________________________________________________________________ Moda para esta temporada. Ponte al dÃa de todas las tendencias. http://www.msn.es/Mujer/moda/default.asp

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Re: [PD] markex for macosx
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

The instructions are in the ReadMe.html that are included in the Pd- extended.dmg. hc On Apr 18, 2007, at 7:53 PM, yukio kuroiwa wrote: > sorry for the question but how does that .plist file works? how can i > load the libraries with it? > im new on macosx > > many thanx > > > > On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 19:30:02 -0400, "Hans-Christoph Steiner" > <hans(a)eds.org> said: >> >> Yup, its loaded by the default .plist file that comes with the .dmg. >> You can also access the objects using a namespace prefix: [markex/ >> oneshot] >> >> .hc >> >> On Apr 18, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Roman Haefeli wrote: >> >>> most probably binaries are included in pd-extended from hcs. >>> >>> http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html >>> >>> roman >>> >>> On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 15:54 -0700, yukio kuroiwa wrote: >>>> Do anybody know where can i find the markex library compiled for >>>> macosx??? >>>> >>>> >>>> many thanx >>>> -- >>>> yukio kuroiwa >>>> yukio_kuroiwa(a)fastmail.fm >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________ >>> Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http:// >>> messenger.yahoo.de >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>> listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ---- >> >> There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste >> >> > -- > yukio kuroiwa > yukio_kuroiwa(a)fastmail.fm > > -- > http://www.fastmail.fm - Or how I learned to stop worrying and > love email again ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Mistrust authority - promote decentralization. - the hacker ethic

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markex for macosx
by yukio kuroiwa 19 Apr '07

19 Apr '07

Do anybody know where can i find the markex library compiled for macosx??? many thanx -- yukio kuroiwa yukio_kuroiwa(a)fastmail.fm -- http://www.fastmail.fm - A fast, anti-spam email service.

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Re: [PD] Linux - which distribution to use?
by bigswift＠cox.net 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Ubunutu is what i use for pd ---- Roman Haefeli <reduzierer(a)yahoo.de> wrote: > On Wed, 2007-04-18 at 17:01 +0200, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > Hallo, > > Richard Lewis hat gesagt: // Richard Lewis wrote: > > > > > I run pd on Debian. > > > > Me, too. Debian rules. Other than that pure:dyne rules as well. > > i agree, though ubuntu is also a debian derivative, but sometimes much > easier to use than debian and from my experience comes with better > maintained repos. as a beginner, i'd still vote for ubuntu. > > roman > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > Telefonate ohne weitere Kosten vom PC zum PC: http://messenger.yahoo.de > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- Patrick Pagano Digital Media Specialist University of Florida Digital Worlds Institute 352-294-2082

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Re: [PD] pd command line arguments
by forwinder 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Cheers Frank, That worked perfectly! >Recently I struggled with the same thing until I discovered the logic >behind the ALSA device numbering. The option to use to select an ALSA >soundcard actually is "-alsa -audiodev NUMBER". (I'm not sure if >"-alsaadd" does anything at all.) >Now how to find NUMBER? Two rules: >a) it starts counting at 1, not at 0. >b) Every physical soundcard found will result in two "-audiodev" >numbers for ALSA: one hw-device and one plughw-device. >This is probably best explained with an example: >Assume you have two soundcards, e.g. >Then "-alsa -audiodev 1" will open hw:0, >"-alsa -audiodev 2" will open plughw:0, >"-alsa -audiodev 3" will open hw:1 and >"-alsa -audiodev 1" will open plughw:1 do you have any idea how to initialize the midi? I have used # pd -alsa -audiodev 3 -alsamidi pd starts with the audio sorted(thx) but although the alsamidi is selected one needs to actually open the dialog and hit apply to open the midi ports? And only then can jack see pd as a possible midi client? It would be nice to be able to kickoff the whole set up. C

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pd command line arguments
by forwinder 18 Apr '07

18 Apr '07

Hi all, I was trying last night to start pd from command line with the appropriate sound card selected. I tried pd -alsa -alsadev hw:1,0 and also replacing the space between the soundcard and the -alsadev with a = and :. On every case pd did not recognize the commands. I also tried pd -listdev - this caused some sort of seg fault. I was trying this on the version of puredata which comes preinstalled with pure dyne. The name of the card which appears on the alsa drop down list within pd is Layla24(hardware) and Layla24(plugin). therefore I tried this pd -alsa -alsadev Layla24(hardware) pd -alsa -audioindev Layla24(hardware) again tried both cases with = and : in the space. both failed with an error; something to do with a bad file descriptor? Any suggestions anyone, I can try to trap the seg fault later on with the pd -listdev. As getting this to work would surely throw some light on the situation. Last questions ,I think this might be a long shot but is there a way to interface via command line with Jackd to connect midi inputs and outputs. I could not explicitly see anything in the docs. I was hoping to connect pd midi i/o to my layla midi i/o without having to do it by hand through qjackctrl. regards, Conor

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