Pd-list October 2007

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Re: [PD] pd-extended 39-3 libraries load
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

The 10 items thing is a well known bug... An import help patch exists, but it doesn't seem to get installed properly. That's a bug, it should be reported: http://puredata.org/dev/bugtracker/ .hc On Oct 11, 2007, at 5:30 PM, Luiz Naveda wrote: > Hi Hans, > > The problem (for me) is not exactly loading extended libraries at > start up. The problem starts when you try to modify the path slots in > the file menu. After this I don't know what happens...Some libraries > are missing... > > And I start to ask myself: Why ten? If I overwrite one slot I miss the > overwrote library? I've checked the registry and the adresses were > there... > > To complete, after rewrite the registry...nothing loads...and I have > to reinstall PD, again > > I already checked the docs and the information is cloudy...for me. > This affect directly the modularity and development of libraries.Is it > possible to create a super-searching path (with subdirectory search)? > So, if you want load something, just throw the folder there. > > [import] doesnt work, and it has no docs, until now > I am using Pd version 0.39.3-extended-rc5 > > Best > > Luiz > > On 10/10/07, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> wrote: >> >> >> I haven't been able to reproduce this problem. All of the >> libraries should >> be loaded by default. This is how it worked for me on the two WinXP >> machines I've tested on. >> >> Perhaps there is something stuck in the registry that is causing >> problems. >> Try deleting the Pd registry settings. Delete this whole folder: >> >> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Pd >> >> Careful! You can really screw things up if you delete the wrong >> thing. >> Then try reinstalling using this version: >> >> http://autobuild.puredata.info/auto-build/2007-10-10/Pd-0.39.3- >> extended-windowsxp-i386.exe >> >> If that doesn't work, please file a bug report with as much >> information as >> possible. >> >> .hc >> >> >> On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Anders Friberg wrote: >> I had for a long time similar struggles related to missing >> objects in >> pd-extended. >> To use the colon as separator does not seem to work on Windows - >> which >> makes sense since paths usually contain a colon as well. >> And if I want to use all libs in extended I have to list 51 paths >> since >> that is the number of folders in /pd/extra/! >> And it is very confusing (especially for a beginner) when the >> help patches >> in the browser do not work from the beginning. >> It would be wonderful to have a "working out-of-the-box" solution >> to this >> problem. (and yes - I clicked the reg file) >> pd-extended is a great effort and if this issue can be solved it >> would >> improve the usability enormously. >> /Anders >> >> Max Neupert wrote: >> Am 07.10.2007 um 07:12 schrieb Luiz Naveda: >> >> >> Nowdays I have had a strange problem. I have my own library which >> depends on some other libraris from PD extended. When I have to >> install it in other computers, I put my folders in 2 of the 10 slot- >> path but normally it misses 3 or 4 other libraries, so I start to >> look for the missing objects and rewrite all missing libraries in >> the 10 slots... >> >> to add more entries you may use the : as a separator as described >> here: >> >> http://puredata.org/docs/tutorials/TipsAndTricks#add-more-entries-to- >> the-path-and-library-dialogs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------- >> >> All information should be free. - the hacker ethic >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > -- > Luiz Naveda > _________________________________ > Mobile: + 32 0487 245594 > IPEM - Dep. of Musicology > Blandijnberg 2 > Ghent University, > Ghent, B-9000 > Belgium > > ^v^ > ^v^ > ^v^ > > ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^^~^~~~~ > ^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~~^~~^~~^~^~^~~~^~~~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- http://at.or.at/hans/

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Re: [PD] remote sl
by Beau Casey 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

A little while back some people mentioned making an auto map template for the novation remote series. Does anyone have a cool pd synth that is already mapped to its defualt map?

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Comport and UBW problems on Linux
by Thomas O Fredericks 12 Oct '07

12 Oct '07

I am creating an abstraction to ease the communication with an UBW (USB Bit Wacker: http://greta.dhs.org/UBW/index.html). The abstraction uses comport to communicate with the device. It is considered as USB modem by the system. See the tail of dmesg when the device is plugged in to my Ubuntu machine: [102406.169656] usb 1-5: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 8 [102406.381592] usb 1-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [102415.654264] usb 1-5: USB disconnect, address 8 [102416.484598 ] usb 1-5: new full speed USB device using ohci_hcd and address 9 [102416.706005] usb 1-5: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [102416.708971] drivers/usb/class/cdc-acm.c: This device cannot do calls on its own. It is no modem. [102416.708984] cdc_acm 1-5:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device The problem is as follows: The abstraction works fine in XP, but in Ubuntu, when I want to send more than three values (i.e. something like [77,65,49,42,13< ), comport complains that: "[comport] write returned -1, errno is 11 Write error, maybe TX-OVERRUNS on serial line" Now, ttyACM0 is a weird device because it does not have a baud rate. It simply sends the data as fast as it can. So, this message DOES not make any sense. I know it is not a problem with my configuration of Ubuntu because I was able to establish proper communication with Perl. Anybody have a clue on how to solve this or modify comport? (I used a version I compiled from pd cvs and another from pd-extended and both failed). Tom

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Re: [PD] next conv in Brasil... meaning business
by PORRES 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

> If it is a problem to get university support Is actually the opposite. I Believe we could get much more involvement and fundings from it here in Brasil! :) > You don't need to have the developers, you > need people who stick together Sure, Cool... And as I said, it's nice to have some local meetings before an international one... and the goal must be gathering people! Users, whatever... like you described. > It's better to organise the schedule so that > people organised in one thing aren't likely > to be interested in the other thing that > happens at the same time hmmm, yeah, the event in Montreal could be much longer if things werent all at the same time... We could have here a longer event. If it is "smaller", things could be not simultaneous... one way or another, there should be plenty space and material for a Convention here... Cheers alexandre torres porres --------------------------------- Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games.

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linux 64 bit
by Boenn G (CCI) 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

Hi, can anybody point me to the right direction here? I tried to compile pd on a 64bit machine with Suse 10.2 but failed. cheers Georg

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Tk GUI script (pd.tk) questions ..
by ild0012＠londonmet.ac.uk 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

Hello list. I'd like to ask those of you who knows Tk/Tcl very well. I have attempted and succeed changing pd.tk for my personal use .. i added extra key biddings and removed menubars .. well, Romain gave me the no-scroll + no-menu script i have few thoughts .. if we could set the menu as function, so it could be removable by a msg ..? may be the window list needs some improvments .. if it could be kept separately from the .m.windows , so removing the whole bock of code with menubar related stuff if pd_menubar==0 could be better then just removing some of bits of it .. regrding fonts, i have set most of them to 'clean', which give a pretty looking gui .. may be they could be set by variables in a separate config file ? i feel like i can most of these modifications myself .. without getting extra complexity like in Mathieu's desiredata .. the question is, how can such kind of enhanchements affect the perfomance ? could some extra variables take extra bits of memory ? how efficient Tk/Tcl is ? ..so people on IRC channel #dataflow complained a lot , that Tk is not very fast etc... setting leyboard biddings i added more the 10 extra conditional statements ..i thoght that getting any keyborad events Tk will have to run trough some more stuff in order to send something to pd, isn't it? or Tk has a way of super-super-fast scan trough all that? -- thanks for attention, ilya .d

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gigatable~ (prototype) playing long samples
by Enrique Erne 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

hi all [gigatable~] is an approach to overcome the 16777216 sample accuracy problem by grouping a number of tables to a bigger unit. see also http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2007-09/053479.html internally this prototype has 3 hard-coded tables and is able to record and playback as well as preload a sample. the 3 tables could be extended. additionally a gigaread4~ , which is unfortunately quite expensive, allows to scratch or play faster/slower as you know it from your tabread4~ pleasures. to overcome the maximum accurate number of 16777216 it takes milliseconds instead of samples and allow to use 44.1 times longer samples. normal table + tabread4~ 16777216 samples = ~ 6.34 minutes gigatable~ + gigaread4~ 16777216 * 44.1 = 4.66 hours (not in the prototype yet) (if i do the math correctly) the prototype itself is just an example of how to group tables. for testing reasons each table has only 44100 sample atm. have fun! eni

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Re: [PD] Feature request/external query (PDPEDIA)
by Thomas O Fredericks 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

HA HA, I found the glitch. any2string adds a terminating "0" (zero) to the list of chars. When I remove that "offending character" the file is properly recognized by my gnome editor. Excellent, thanks again Martin. Now, if we could solve the comport problem :) Tom On 10/11/07, Martin Peach <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > > Oh. Do you mean that it won't open in a text editor or that it doesn't > have > a text icon, or both? > > > Martin > > > > >Does not work on linux. > > > >Tom > > > >On 10/11/07, Martin Peach <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > > > > Thomas O Fredericks wrote: > > > > > > >Hum, I just loaded the file created with binfile inside textfile and > it > > > >works like I want. But how do I make the system recognize the file as > a > > > >text > > > >file? > > > > > > On most systems, just make sure the last 4 characters of the file name > >are > > > ".txt". > > > > > > Martin > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Feature request/external query (PDPEDIA)
by Thomas O Fredericks 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

I am looking for a way of reading/writing strings (as defined by the string2any and any2string externals) to the hard disk. Is there already an implementation anywhere (maybe I will adapt textfile or msgfile)? The reason is I want to bypass the limitations imposed by pd's special characters so I can adapt pdmtl's help browser so it can automatically parse it's help files and format them for the PDPEDIA wiki. Tom

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about sexism
by ydegoyon＠free.fr 11 Oct '07

11 Oct '07

ola, i'm sorry to be boring on this list, but here i read everyday terms as : 'wet dream', 'gang bang' , .. and i understand why some girls stay away from this list sorry, i'm chocked sometimes, by the 'between men' macho jokes... even me. sevy

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