Pd-list September 2006

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Re: Mastermind (data structure GUI too)
by alberto.zin＠poste.it 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

Hi Chuckk, Yep, I appreciated it since I also started thinking at it last summer so I understand the difficulties ;-) Mine was an unfinished work :-( and probably it will remain like that, no time...). For curiosity you can see the preliminary versions of the GUI done with the pd GUI objects + GOP in attachment. No datastructures. One small suggestion is: press repeatedly on a button to change its color (at least I did like that), so you don't have to go outside the table to first set the colors an then press the selected button... PS: the image I posted was the mini-master mind I had in the 80's ;-) All the best, Alberto Glad you like it. It was harder than I thought, considering the game doesn't have to "think" at all. I should put some background in there; the one you sent only has 6 lines though... On 9/12/06, alberto.zin(a)poste.it <alberto.zin(a)poste.it> wrote: > Chukk, > > Awesome ! > If you want to use the attached gif as a background > using the GGEE "image" external ... > I'm intrigued about this data-structure stuff; > This, FB's game-of-life, HCS's solitude > and other I've seen are totally amazing ! > More please ;-) > > > Alberto Zin > > http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ > > > -- "Far and away the best prize that life has to offer is the chance to work hard at work worth doing." -Theodore Roosevelt Alberto Zin http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ

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Re: Re: [Pd] active and tot not right in pd-extended
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

> > De: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> > Date: 2006/09/14 jeu. AM 10:29:18 GMT-04:00 > À: <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> <martin.peach(a)sympatico.ca> > Cc: "David Powers" <cyborgk(a)gmail.com>, <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Objet: Re: [Pd] active and tot not right in pd-extended > >> Some kind of "config" or ".ini" or whatever file, would make it far > >> easier to change options for one install, without messing up the > >> other. > >> > > > > I agree totally. I see no reason to mess with the registry. Surely > > a text (or better: XML) file would be a platform-independent way of > > saving settings that doesn't require calling a > > The idea is to be platform-specific. The .pdrc is the old platform- > independent config file. Why exactly does the config file have to be platform specific? > How many users know how to edit this proposed config file? Just > about how many know how to edit the registry settings for Pd. The > FAQ can provide some help for getting people up to speed. We need to > build on existing knowledge so that people don't have learn Pd- > specific things for trivial operations. For what Pd does with it, > the registry is simple to use. Plus if you learn the registry in the > process of figuring out manual Pd configs, then you can apply that > knowledge to just about every other Windows program. I don't know _any_ windows program that encourages users to play around with its registry entries. That usually results in odd behaviour. MS wants the program to read and write the registry through the API, the user isn't supposed to even suspect that it might exist. The main reason for it seems to be for licensing and copy-protection secret keys. My registry seems to have thousands of entries. Browsing it is very tedious. I propose that an xml file could be read/writeable by pd in the same way the setting dialogs work currently. Since it's a plain text file and out in the open, anyone could read it, and "experts" could edit it directly. As long as the 'xml' is kept simple (no nesting, no dtd lookups) a parser should be doable in tcl, maybe a tcl xml parser already exists(?) Martin

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gem window 4096 x 683
by i'malittleteapot shortandstout 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

Does anyone have any experience in setting up a gem window accross four projectors. I'm projecting at 4096 x 683 using two 256mb ati Radeon x600 graphics cards and a Matrox Millenium G450 DualHead DVI PCI, working with a gig of RAM. The plan is to have 16 gemheads, 4 accross and switch between rendering them to change what movies are playing. If anyone has any advice/experience to offer it would be hugely appreciated. Victoria _________________________________________________________________ Find a baby-sitter FAST with MSN Search! http://search.msn.ie/

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chipwave...
by adam armfield 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

http://www.zenpho.co.uk/chipwave.shtml a chiptune type pd patch... ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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re: sound chips...
by adam armfield 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

don't know if this ones been mentioned but the pokey is another one... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atari_POKEY i hear rumours that ballblazer carts for the 2600 had these inside... ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html

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Re: [PD] voice recognition (was MOD Trackers (was Pd to CV for a Moog) (OT))
by adam armfield 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

>a voice interface to pd would be interesting to us, snip--- i think it's a great idea... i heard of one recently, a python programmer who rigged something up so that he could speak in python might be this one... http://surguy.net/articles/speechrecognition.xml this uses the windows speech sdk, whilst wondering if an open source sdk existed i came across this piece of news from tuesday... IBM to open source speech recognition http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=18420 i use viavoice because of rsi (i should really be usin g it now, or a softer keyboard in a more sensible position, but anyway), & it's pretty good. i'd thought about rigging something up to program in lisp/scheme using viavoice, because i think the syntax is simple enough to allow this i suppose pd for the blind might throw up similar issues to using screenreaders... some of the same problems/solutions might apply. best wishes adam ___________________________________________________________ Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/trueswitch2.html

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Re: Re: [Pd] active and tot not right in pd-extended
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

> You have a point there. The Preferences panes often don't work at all > correctly, I'm not really sure why. For example, I added a flag in > startups, but then the flag stayed on afterwards, until I edited the > registry. On Windows I found you have to Apply the settings and Save them (a couple of times for good measure) before they stick. > > There's also a limit in the amount of libraries and directories you > can add, which is a SERIOUS shortcoming. > The available edit windows in tcl/tk are a bit limited. It seems like you can either have a one-line editable field or a whole rectangle that you can enter any text into. With the one-line fields currently used there isn't enough room for more than 10 unless someone adds scrollbars to the window. Just entering a list of libs in a text field is not so far different from editing a text file. Maybe a button "Add Lib" which pops up an line edit box. An uneditable list of existing libraries with "Edit" buttons next to them? Same thing for paths. > However, this still leaves the problem of having two PD's installed at > once. Any suggestions on how that should be done? If each Pd had its own prefs file... http://wiki.tcl.tk/3919 has a code example in tcl that could be modified and put in pd.tk as an interface to an xml file. > The reason I had to > install two PD's, is I'm using a brand new experimental version of > Gem, that crashes PD-extended. But help fiiles don't work for me in > Miller's PD, so every time I want to check a help file, I open > PD-extended and use that browser. I am essentially using Miller's PD, > with all the extended stuff dumped into the extra section of it, as > Patco suggested. > > Anyway, finally, even though I edited the registry by guessing, I'm > still mostly clueless what the entries do. Any chance of getting it > documented? Is it documented in some other form I just don't realize? You can look at the source in s_main.c, the function sys_argparse has all the possible entries in quotes, but they are not explained and also don't seem to correspond exactly with their names in the registry. Martin

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Re: Re: [Pd] active and tot not right in pd-extended
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

> > From: "David Powers" <cyborgk(a)gmail.com> > Date: 2006/09/13 Wed PM 05:00:55 EST > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [Pd] active and tot not right in pd-extended > > Is there documentation, of how to manually change the registry, and > what the settings do? > > Those of us who are attempting to use both Miller's PD, and extended, > have found we must manually edit the registry. It's a little bit of a > problem, since I'm not 100% sure what I should change... > > I am a little bit against using the registry, for the above reason: > Those of us who are running more than one install of PD, are ending up > with registry entries that apply either to one, or the other. > > Some kind of "config" or ".ini" or whatever file, would make it far > easier to change options for one install, without messing up the > other. > I agree totally. I see no reason to mess with the registry. Surely a text (or better: XML) file would be a platform-independent way of saving settings that doesn't require calling a "sysadmin" for help. The registry tends to fill up with irrelevant obsolete keys that end up mysteriously interfering with the proper operation of the software. How many users know where to find the pd settings in the registry? What happens if you have more than one pd on the system? Or what happens if you delete one pd and then install an older version? Martin > ~David > > On 9/13/06, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> wrote: > > > > On Sep 4, 2006, at 2:58 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote: > > > > > Hallo, > > > carmen hat gesagt: // carmen wrote: > > > > > >> i added a patch to the tracker a while back for pd.ini support on > > >> windows. easier than a batch file since its the same format as .pdrc > > >> on 'n[iu]x, and obviously easier than using an installer to add > > >> something to the registry. > > > > > > I like that. The only Windows machines I have access to are at work > > > and there I'm not enabled to touch the registry anyways. Also I don't > > > know many Windows users who are comfortable with the registry. I don't > > > know many people at all who know their way around the registry. > > > > Like it or not (I don't), the registry is the Windows-native way of > > managing settings. I think we should try to be as native as possible > > on each platform, so on Windows that means using the registry. For > > what Pd uses the registry for, its really not that scary, and its > > pretty straightforward to manage. > > > > .hc > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of > > exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an > > idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps > > it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into > > the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess > > himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >

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RE: Mastermind (data structure GUI too)
by alberto.zin＠poste.it 15 Sep '06

15 Sep '06

Chukk, Awesome ! If you want to use the attached gif as a background using the GGEE "image" external ... I'm intrigued about this data-structure stuff; This, FB's game-of-life, HCS's solitude and other I've seen are totally amazing ! More please ;-) Alberto Zin http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ

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trakka -- a tracker sequencer in Pd+GridFlow
by Claude Heiland-Allen 14 Sep '06

14 Sep '06

Hi all, Now that it's usable enough to write little songs... Screenshot: http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/image.php?image=gallery/coding/pd-patches… Audio: http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org/feed/media/ClaudiusMaximus%20-%20trakka-0… Source: http://devel.goto10.org/listing.php?repname=maximus&path=%2Ftrakka%2F Quick start tutorial: 1. Load trakka-help.pd and turn DSP on. 2. Select the Trakka window. 3. Hit Ctrl-O, select the trakka-example.grid.gz song. 4. Hit Ctrl (workaround for a bug...) 5. Hit Escape (possibly more than once, another bug...) until playback starts. 6. Hit ` (possibly more than once, yet another bug...) until playback advances between blocks. Warning: Things will change, possibly in backwards incompatible ways, so don't start writing that masterpiece yet ;-) Claude -- http://claudiusmaximus.goto10.org

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Pd-list September 2006