Pd-list October 2006

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Re: [PD] and it's PR/Marketing, or those
by adam armfield 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

well i can do the graphical/design side of a redesign, or some of it anyway... as long as i'm not bombarded by conflicting requests from lots of people ;-) all the best adam Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] and it's PR/Marketing, or those
by alberto.zin＠poste.it 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

Hi, my few words/facts/comments on the subject: 1) forum & list: yes, there is less activity on the forum but still a nice place to dig into. Sometimes you can find amazing stuff there ;-) 2) PD "life-form" is the mailing list. 3) The list activity is purely technical for the 80% of the mail. To me, I'd like to see more posts with user creations, arts (something like the Reaktor user library, if you know it..) 4) This "too much technical topics" may deconcentrate the newbie (at least it was for me the first time I subscribed some time ago..) which at the end may want to see examples of what can be done with PD before starting learning it... 5) One can find WONDERFUL examples of PD patches around the web (pd webring and other) instead of having a unique resource. On the other side: we cannot blame people that do their best for keeping this site alive on a voluntary basis (thanks guys!) and I suppose that there is no people paid for full-time managing the PD.info site like in other commercial cases (who said cycling74? ;-) The consequence of this is that it will make the PD learning curve a bit steeper but if one is seriously motivated at the end he/she'll find his own way... Just thinking. All the best, Alberto Zin http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ

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Crikey HID-based virtual keyboard 1.5 release
by Luke Iannini (pd) 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

OK! I am pretty happy with this now. Improvements over the 1.0 of a few days ago: ** Keymap-saving system. I suppose I could have used SSSAD for this, but I wrote my own to better integrate with the patch. Place the included CrikeyDefault file into the same dir as crikey.pd to try my default map (which starts at <tab> for C, ends at <\>, then starts again at <z>). As I said, I'm not sure if the KEY_##s output by [hid] are consistent across systems, so you might have to just record your own map. Save over CrikeyDefault and it will load every time. ** Improved help (integrated into the patch) ** Key-filtering for unmapped keys - the previous version would allow unmapped keys through, which would end up just triggering random notes. 1.5 corrects this. ** Context-sensitive slider - the Duration and Velocity sliders have been merged into one. Click a note and it becomes a duration slider (as the keys do not support holding), press a keyboard key and it becomes a velocity slider (as, sadly, your computer keyboard does not transmit velocity... where do we send the feature request?). Please, I would very much enjoy your comments! (and bug reports, perhaps) (and sorry there is no fix for the unclickable black keys until someone fixes vslider and hslider) Luke

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Re: [PD] GEM: trying to install it in G4 with 10.3.9
by Javier García 20 Oct '06

20 Oct '06

Mike McGonagle wrote: >I believe that you can't use 'open' to run this, as it doesn't pass on >commandline arguments to the called program. That is what I get from >the man page... > >Have you tried to run it by having PD as the command to run? I think >you will have to put the fully qualified path there to the REAL >application for this to work. Sorry, what you mean is i should open pd in this way: Pd-0.39 -lib Gem instead of this: open Pd-0.39 -lib Gem ? Javi >From: "Mike McGonagle" <mjmogo(a)gmail.com> >To: "Javier GarcÃa" <tirengarfio(a)hotmail.com> >Subject: Re: [PD] GEM: trying to install it in G4 with 10.3.9 >Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 14:35:55 -0500 > >I believe that you can't use 'open' to run this, as it doesn't pass on >commandline arguments to the called program. That is what I get from >the man page... > >Have you tried to run it by having PD as the command to run? I think >you will have to put the fully qualified path there to the REAL >application for this to work. > >Mike > > >On 10/17/06, Javier GarcÃa <tirengarfio(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>Hello, >> >>in order to install Gem at a G4 1,5 GHz with 10.3.9, im following the >>instructions that come in GEM.README. >> >>I explain my steps: >> >>- Following the part wich say "do it by hand" i have the next structure: >> >>Applications\pd\extra\Gem.pd_darwin >>Applications\pd\extra\help-Gem >>Applications\pd\Pd-0.39 >> >>- I have found "Gem.pd_darwin" in "gem-0.90.0-OSX-G4-bin.tar.gz" >>- "help-Gem" is a copy of "help" folder that comes inside of >>"gem-0.90.0-OSX-G4-bin-doc.tar" >> >>Then, I launch Pd from the Terminal with this command: >> >>open Pd-0.39 -lib Gem >> >>which opens pd, but without any message about Gem. >> >>I have tried with -verbose but nothing happens >> >>Some can help me? >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list >>UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > >-- >Help the Environment, Plant a Bush back in Texas! > >"I place economy among the first and most important republican >virtues, and public debt as the greatest of the dangers to be feared. >To preserve our independence, we must not let our rulers load us with >perpetual debt." >-- Thomas Jefferson, third US president, architect and author (1743-1826) > >"Give Peace a Chance" -- John Lennon (9 October 1940 Â 8 December 1980) _________________________________________________________________ Descubre la descarga digital con MSN Music. MÃ¡s de un millÃ³n de canciones. http://music.msn.es/

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multio external for osX
by hard off 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

hi, does anyone have a working multio external for os x (10.3) ??? i seem to have deleted mine by mistake.

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metro bug in 0.40
by Ed Kelly 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Hi, I'm trying to do a filter tutorial for my class, and it is the 11th hour. I have discovered that the metro object behaves wierdly in this patch, chucking out all its bangs at once (like kalashnikov). SO here's the patch... Ed -> -> --> ---> -----> --------> -------------> ---------------------> "Genius is attention to detail" Louis Pasteur ___________________________________________________________ Try the all-new Yahoo! Mail. "The New Version is radically easier to use" Â The Wall Street Journal http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html

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Re: PD-list Digest, Vol 19, Issue 74
by Ramirez Hugo Francisco 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

It looks nice to me. I hope you can get it to work in XP best regards Hugo Mensaje citado por pd-list-request(a)iem.at: > Send PD-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-owner(a)iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PD-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Ergates game-like audiovisual instrument (Chris McCormick) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2006 17:39:15 +0800 > From: Chris McCormick <chris(a)mccormick.cx> > Subject: [PD] Ergates game-like audiovisual instrument > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Message-ID: <20061018093915.GM22620(a)mccormick.cx> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Hello, > > Ergates is an audio visual instrument/environment I've been building in Pd > + Gem which has a game-like interface (USB dual analogue gamepad). I hope > some other people will try it out and help me make more sub-instruments > for it. > > http://mccormick.cx/projects/ergates/ > > Have fun! > > Best, > > Chris. > > ------------------- > chris(a)mccormick.cx > http://mccormick.cx > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > to manage your subscription (including un-subscription) see > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > End of PD-list Digest, Vol 19, Issue 74 > *************************************** >

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RE: [PD] Ergates game-like audiovisual instrument
by alberto.zin＠poste.it 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Aaarrrgghh... (enthusiasm scream).. It looks gorgeously amazing!! This is exactly what I meant by "sharing PD art through the list" :-0 Is this is the next killer application for PD? ;-) Can't wait to try it!! BTW: to come back on a recent topic, the ERGATES web page is really nice.. Thanks Chris, Alberto Alberto Zin http://puredata.org/Members/AlbertoZ

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autosave.pd
by Steffen Leve Poulsen 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

hi Here's autosaving for live programming. autosave.pd ---------------------------------- #N canvas 177 115 826 579 12; #X msg 380 243 menusave \;; #X obj 380 128 metro 150000; #X obj 380 103 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj 380 56 inlet; #X obj 470 103 * 60000; #X obj 470 78 inlet; #X obj 285 37 \$2; #X obj 285 14 loadbang; #X obj 285 62 select 1; #X obj 380 155 t b b; #X obj 415 202 print a; #X msg 415 179 u: t: o:; #X text 102 349 arguments:; #X text 107 379 1 name of window to autosave (eg help-autosave.pd) ; #X text 109 410 2 autosave init 0/1 (off/on); #X text 103 446 inlets:; #X text 108 499 2 interval of saving in minutes (default 5 min); #X text 108 472 1 0/1 (off/on \, default off); #X obj 380 271 s pd-\$1; #N canvas 0 0 575 330 what 0; #X text 51 66 autosave.pd is an abstraction that autosaves your patch. ; #X text 50 248 see /pd/doc/1.manual/x2.htm#s7; #X text 181 273 for information on abstractions.; #X text 51 124 keep this file in your pd -path (eg /pd/extra/) \, or in the same folder as your patch.; #X text 53 191 make an object like this [autosave nameofpatchtosave.pd 1]; #X restore 586 30 pd what is this?; #X connect 0 0 18 0; #X connect 1 0 9 0; #X connect 2 0 1 0; #X connect 3 0 2 0; #X connect 4 0 1 1; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 8 0; #X connect 7 0 6 0; #X connect 8 0 2 0; #X connect 9 0 0 0; #X connect 9 1 11 0; #X connect 11 0 10 0; #X coords 0 -1 1 1 300 21 1 100 100; -------------------------------------------------------------

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pduino digital outs
by martin.peach＠sympatico.ca 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

I'm trying to implement the pduino using a PIC16F767. So far I have the analog ins and digital ins working well. In testing I find that the arduino-help patch sends digital outs as 229, low7, high7, that is, the digital out token followed by the bit pattern for the low 7 bits and then the bit pattern for the high 7 bits. On the other hand, the Pd_firmware.pde code expects the high byte first: if(firstInputByte) { // output data for pins 7-13 for(i=7; i<TOTAL_DIGITAL_PINS; ++i) { mask = 1 << i; if( (digitalPinStatus & mask) && !(pwmStatus & mask) ) { // inputData is a byte and mask is an int, so align the high part of mask digitalWrite(i, inputData & (mask >> 7)); } } firstInputByte = false; } else { // for(i=0; i<7; ++i) { mask = 1 << i; if( (digitalPinStatus & mask) && !(pwmStatus & mask) ) { digitalWrite(i, inputData & mask); } } } ...so which is correct? Also the digitalWrite(i, inputData & mask) should probably be digitalWrite(i, (inputData && mask)?HIGH:LOW). Martin

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