Pd-list November 2005

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more problems with dyn~
by Pall Thayer 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Well, I've spent several hours now updating pd on my server so I can run my new project and I'm having problems with dyn~ What does this mean? /home/palli/pure-data/pd/extra/dyn~.pd_linux: /home/palli/pure-data/ pd/extra/dyn~.pd_linux: undefined symbol: _ZN17flext_root_singlenwEj dyn~ 0 1 2 1 ... couldn't create A lot of the problems I've had are probably my fault. I don't want to 'make install' because I don't want it to mess with my previous pd installation. So that's probably causing many of my headaches. I downloaded flext from grrr.org and it compiled fine. After building I get several folders, release-multi, release-shared, release-single. I used the libflext from release-shared. At first, dyn~ kept looking for libflext-pd.so.0.5 but flext had titled it libflext-pd.so.0.5.0 After I figured that problem out, this one popped up. Does it have something to do with the multi/shared/single thing? Thanks for any help. Pall -- Pall Thayer palli(a)pallit.lhi.is http://www.this.is/pallit

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Re: Fwd: Re: [PD] pidip - compiler output - ???
by Ed Kelly 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

No query, just to let you know I sent this to the list by mistake! It was meant to go to me so I didn't 'lose' it! --- Ed Kelly <morph_2016(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Note: forwarded message attached. > > > -> > -> > --> > ---> > -----> > --------> > -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > Get My Web - a better way to save web pages > http://uk.search.yahoo.com/myresults/default> Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2005 17:40:13 +0200 > From: IOhannes m zmoelnig <zmoelnig(a)iem.at> > To: Ed Kelly <morph_2016(a)yahoo.co.uk> > CC: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] pidip - compiler output - ??? > > Ed Kelly wrote: > > Thanks /ohannes, > > > > It has another problem since I went back to an old > > version, but I got on the ffmpeg mailing list > looking > > for a cvs from about then. > > > > It becomes impossible when a package depends on > > another package, constantly changing, with few if > any > > releases (i.e. ffmpeg). So if I can get it to work > > just once I will be able to make archives. > > > quoting from the ffmpeg-devel list (which i bothered > about changing APIs > without changing release-numbers) > > > > ##The best (IMHO) is to develop using the current > cvs, then when > ## shipping you do a cvs co -D, like: > ## > ## cvs -d > :pserver:anonymous@mplayerhq.hu:/cvsroot/ffmpeg co > -D > '20050101 12:00GMT' ffmpeg > ## > ## This gives you a source tree as it was at that > time *and cvs update > ## wont change it!*. > > > while the date in the case is arbitrary, it might > well fit your needs... > > > > [OT]Hope you are well. How is Graz? > > nice, steiris[:her:]bst is starting today so i > should be there and not > here... > > > > mfg.a.sdr > IOhannes > -> -> --> ---> -----> --------> -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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shell and makesymbol
by Ed Kelly 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

I had to hack a couple of other's pd source code for it to work on my project. Here is Gunter's shell with a pd-darwin makefile - it has both outlets unlike the wonk version. Also, Johannes' makesymbol from zexy - all I did was add a 1, but it can handle symbols of more than 80 characters. Best, Ed -> -> --> ---> -----> --------> -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com /****************************************************** * * zexy - implementation file * * copyleft (c) IOhannes m zmölnig * * 1999:forum::für::umläute:2004 * * institute of electronic music and acoustics (iem) * ****************************************************** * * license: GNU General Public License v.2 * ******************************************************/ /* (l) 1210:forum::für::umläute:1999 "makesymbol" is something between "symbol" and "makefilename", thus storing and creating (formatted) symbols... */ #include "zexy.h" #include <string.h> #include <stdio.h> #define MAXSTRINGARGS 10 #define MAXSTRINGLENG 180 /* ----------------------- makesymbol --------------------- */ static t_class *makesymbol_class; typedef struct _makesymbol { t_object x_obj; t_symbol *x_sym; char* mask; char* buf; } t_makesymbol; static void reset_mask(t_makesymbol *x, t_symbol *s) { if (*s->s_name) { x->mask = s->s_name; x->x_sym = s; } else { x->mask = "%s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s"; x->x_sym = gensym(""); } } t_symbol* list2symbol(char *masque, int argc, t_atom *argv) { typedef char cstring[MAXSTRINGLENG]; cstring buf[MAXSTRINGARGS]; cstring buffer; int i; for(i=0; i<MAXSTRINGARGS; i++)*buf[i]=0; for (i=0; i<argc; i++) { atom_string(argv+i, buf[i], MAXSTRINGLENG); } sprintf(buffer, masque, buf[0], buf[1], buf[2], buf[3], buf[4], buf[5], buf[6], buf[7], buf[8], buf[9]); return (gensym(buffer)); } static void makesymbol_list(t_makesymbol *x, t_symbol *s, int argc, t_atom *argv) { x->x_sym = list2symbol(x->mask, argc, argv); outlet_symbol(x->x_obj.ob_outlet, x->x_sym); } static void makesymbol_bang(t_makesymbol *x) { outlet_symbol(x->x_obj.ob_outlet, x->x_sym); } static void *makesymbol_new(t_symbol *s, int argc, t_atom *argv) { t_makesymbol *x = (t_makesymbol *)pd_new(makesymbol_class); x->buf = (char *)getbytes(MAXSTRINGLENG * sizeof(char)); x->mask = x->buf; if (argc) { atom_string(argv, x->buf, MAXSTRINGLENG); x->x_sym = gensym(x->buf); } else { x->mask = "%s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s%s"; x->x_sym = gensym(""); } outlet_new(&x->x_obj, &s_symbol); inlet_new(&x->x_obj, &x->x_obj.ob_pd, gensym("symbol"), gensym("sym1")); return (x); } static void makesymbol_free(t_makesymbol *x) { freebytes(x->buf, MAXSTRINGLENG*sizeof(char)); } static void helper(t_makesymbol *x) { post("\n%c makesymbol :: create a formatted symbol", HEARTSYMBOL); post("<list of anything>\t: glue up to 10 list-elements to 1 formatted symbol\n" "'bang'\t\t\t: re-output\n" "'help'\t\t\t: view this" "\ninlet2 : <format-string>: new format-string (symbol !)" "\noutlet : <symbol>\t: formatted concatenation"); post("\ncreation:\"makesymbol [<format-string>]\": C-style format-string (%s only)", "%s"); post("\n\nmasq = %s", x->mask); } void makesymbol_setup(void) { makesymbol_class = class_new(gensym("makesymbol"), (t_newmethod)makesymbol_new, (t_method)makesymbol_free, sizeof(t_makesymbol), 0, A_GIMME, 0); class_addlist(makesymbol_class, makesymbol_list); class_addbang(makesymbol_class, makesymbol_bang); class_addmethod(makesymbol_class, (t_method)reset_mask, gensym("sym1"), A_SYMBOL, 0); class_addmethod(makesymbol_class, (t_method)helper, gensym("help"), 0); class_sethelpsymbol(makesymbol_class, gensym("zexy/makesymbol")); zexy_register("makesymbol"); } void z_makesymbol_setup(void) { makesymbol_setup(); }

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gatom length and osx problems
by Ed Kelly 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Hey guys, I'm having problems porting a PD patch from Linux to Osx(!) and I think it may be something to do with gatom. Is there a limit to the length of gatom? My patch involves a lot of shell operations (using ggee/control/shell - the osx version appears to have only one outlet, is there a reason?) and I can only make gatom 80 characters long. I think this is why a * appears in my pathnames at the 80th character, e.g. /Users/patricksutherland/Documents/Edkelly/testinput/Andrew Sachs/excerpts/Ex-* On the other hand this is coming from a [ makesymbol %s-voicing] where the %s is another path. It works fine under Linux, but in osx things don't work! Anyone know why/how to fix it? Best, Ed -> -> --> ---> -----> --------> -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz ___________________________________________________________ How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Yahoo! Photos http://uk.photos.yahoo.com

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Re: [PD] .pdrc in osx
by Ed Kelly 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

Greetings, Right. I'm going a bit off what the community suggests here. There are two ways to do it, and I am using the wrong one at the moment(!). The 'proper' way to do it is to make an installer (.dmg file). I don't yet know how to do that, but what I did was to put all the externals I wanted in the Pd-0.39-1.app/Contents/Resources/extra folder, and then edit the org.puredata.pd.plist file with -lib zexy -lib iemlib2 etc etc. Then I put the whole thing - my patch, the Pd-0.39-1.app folder, the org.puredata.pd.plist file and a README file containing instructions on where to put the org.puredata.pd.plist file - /Library/Preferences in one folder. I zipped it up and gave it to my boss - who then found bugs in my patch (whoops again). However, Frank's idea about a script should work if you install pd with a .dmg installer. You can make scripts for loading different libraries with the line pd -lib /path/to/lib1.pd_darwin -lib /path/to/lib2.pd_darwin etc. then, chmod 755 myscript.sh Note that my boss is not PD literate, so this had to be _easy_ alternatively you could edit the Pd.command file in Applications and use that to launch PD. I did that for a while... Best, Ed --- Enrique Erne <pd(a)mild.ch> wrote: > hi ed > I'd love to do that . all I ever found was the file > org.puredata.pd.plist . > when i used pd-0.37 I started it with a command > file. > could you point me into the right direction ? > thanks a lot ! > eni > > > On Nov 7, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Ed Kelly wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > I've developed an application for PD and I want to > be > > able to package the whole thing as an installer, > so > > that non-PD people (like my boss) can try out the > > patch straight out of the box. > > The only problem I have is that the .pdrc file > seems > > not to have any effect on pd 0.39 in osx, i.e. the > > libraries are not loaded at startup. Is there > another > > way to include the information on which libraries > to > > load etc as a file, so that paths are configured > by > > default? We all have os 10.3.9 here, so Hans' > > installer doesn't work, and I have custom > externals > > (which I will release to cvs soon ;-) > > > > Best, > > Ed > > > > -> > > -> > > --> > > ---> > > -----> > > --------> > > -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ > > To help you stay safe and secure online, we've > developed the all new > > Yahoo! Security Centre. > http://uk.security.yahoo.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > > > -> -> --> ---> -----> --------> -------------> r3search + praktik EK5perimenz ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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sound controlled color change
by robertgarvin＠bellsouth.net 10 Nov '05

10 Nov '05

hello all, I played around with PD for a while tonight, and came up with something I'd like to share.. nothing big, just something i think might be interesting, and with improvement, would be really neat. so here it is --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #N canvas 579 95 180 169 12; #X obj 40 5 bng 100 250 50 0 empty color_2 click_me 20 49 0 8 -24198 -262144 -262144; #N canvas 141 6 405 670 Pd 0; #X obj -37 -16 inlet; #X obj 138 5 bng 15 75 50 0 empty color_2 10 3 8 0 7 -24198 -262144 -262144; #X obj 36 31 osc~ 440; #X obj 37 68 *~; #X obj 9 167 vu 15 120 empty empty -1 -8 0 8 -66577 -1 1 0; #X obj 26 108 dac~; #N canvas 0 22 794 185 mySigToVU 0; #X obj 5 40 env~ 4096; #X obj 5 71 - 97; #X obj 5 10 inlet~; #X text 80 73 <= offset the number for 0dB Max display; #X text 79 42 <= output the RMS value; #X text 247 65 comment; #X text 100 53 of an incoming signal in dB; #X obj 5 106 outlet; #X obj 414 43 env~ 4096; #X obj 414 74 - 97; #X obj 414 13 inlet~; #X obj 414 109 outlet; #X text 78 12 <= Left input signal; #X text 471 13 <= Right input signal; #X text 83 108 <= send number to Left VU meter; #X text 467 109 <= send number to Right VU meter; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 7 0; #X connect 2 0 0 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 11 0; #X connect 10 0 8 0; #X restore 1 130 pd mySigToVU; #X obj 76 164 vu 15 120 empty empty -1 -8 0 8 -66577 -1 1 0; #X msg 137 23 1 10 0 \, 0 1000 10; #X obj 135 47 vline~; #X obj 8 308 abs; #X msg -11 529 color \$1 0 0; #X obj -10 560 s color_2; #X obj -11 501 *; #X obj -11 481 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 1 1; #X obj -65 382 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj -11 460 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X floatatom 8 384 5 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj -11 436 delay 50; #X obj 8 350 + 69; #X obj -65 358 loadbang; #X obj -93 411 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj -92 429 bng 15 250 50 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1; #X obj 145 345 tgl 15 0 empty empty empty 0 -6 0 8 -262144 -1 -1 0 1; #X text 134 311 Click to start and stop; #X text 140 360 [X] = on [ ] = Off; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 8 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 3 0 5 0; #X connect 3 0 5 1; #X connect 3 0 6 0; #X connect 3 0 6 1; #X connect 4 0 10 0; #X connect 6 0 4 0; #X connect 6 1 7 0; #X connect 8 0 9 0; #X connect 9 0 3 1; #X connect 10 0 19 0; #X connect 11 0 12 0; #X connect 13 0 11 0; #X connect 14 0 13 0; #X connect 15 0 18 0; #X connect 15 0 22 0; #X connect 16 0 14 0; #X connect 16 0 21 0; #X connect 17 0 13 1; #X connect 18 0 16 0; #X connect 19 0 17 0; #X connect 20 0 15 0; #X connect 21 0 15 0; #X connect 22 0 14 0; #X connect 23 0 15 0; #X restore 40 118 pd; #X connect 0 0 1 0; --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- let me know what you think (ie applications, improvements, comments, etc.). RG

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Re: [PD] PD OSX packaging redux
by shreeswifty 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

If you all can figure out how to package pd so PiDiP, PixelTango, PDP, and Gridflow can all install properly I will buy you all a sandwich and a large beverage of your choice. :-) Pat On Wed Nov 09 08:43:58 EST 2005, nacht <nacht(a)widerstand.org> wrote: > > > *snip* > >> And Frank suggested we might want to go the Fink route for PD >> packages (for externals or all). > > Not everybody uses Fink though - and to force people to use Fink > as an "easy > route" to install Pure Data isn't something I am comfortable > with. > > Offering PD via Fink however would be nice as an alternative, but > I for one > would definitely like to see .dmg or the like be the main method > for OS X > distribution. > > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > Patrick Pagano,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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midi..
by Ken 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

is it possible, (yet), to record and playback midi sequences in pd with any externals? thanks, ken

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rradical
by Ken 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

i like the concept of rradical, but can't seem to find any info on installation. any help, ken

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Re: [PD] PD OSX packaging redux
by shreeswifty 09 Nov '05

09 Nov '05

LOL On Wed Nov 09 10:06:06 EST 2005, nacht <nacht(a)widerstand.org> wrote: > On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:04:06 -0500 (EST), shreeswifty wrote >> If you all can figure out how to package pd so >> PiDiP, PixelTango, PDP, and Gridflow can all install properly >> >> I will buy you all a sandwich and a large beverage of your >> choice. > > *snip* > > now that sounds like a challenge. > > *rolls up sleeves* > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list(a)iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > > Patrick Pagano,M.F.A Digital Media Specialist Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida (352) 294-2082

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