Pd-list April 2004

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GEM support (looping glvertex)
by Brian Meehan 06 Apr '04

06 Apr '04

Hi, Forgive me if there is already an example which demonstrates this, I am looking to create a loop within a pure data patch which will let me draw a configuration of points connected by lines using GEM. If you could point me to an example somewhere on the net or post an example which uses this, please respond. Thank you in advance, -Bjm _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

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Alternative to pitch shift from doc ??
by luigi rensinghoff 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hi ! Are there any other Realtime pitch shifting objects abstractions externals than the one included in the documentation ??? Thanks __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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changing delay length without clicks ??
by luigi rensinghoff 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hi List ! I am wondering if someone found an elegant solution for changing the lenght of a delayline that does not produce clicks. Lets say ther is a constant signal inside ??? I guess it is somewhat more komplex than just adding a lin somewhere..Any suggestions ?? Cheers __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/

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pdsend & command line arguments (was: Re: [PD] how do i interact with pd without gui?)
by pdlist＠jlndrr.net 05 Apr '04

05 Apr '04

Hi, nice feature, in fact I try it just that way before founding on the list that it needs som shell voodoo with echo and | (the vertical bar)... (I'm currently beginning to try some Aqua/Applescript GUI using pdsend to manipulate PD patch) Where could i get this new version, preferably in OS X.3 binary? (Sorry to ask harshly for a binary, but i'm just an artist, I do know nearly nothing about compiling. I used Hans installer to install PD one-click) Thanks for that mod, jln > hi all, > > i added a small feature to pdsend so that we can write shell scripts > more easily: > > pd <portnumber> [host] [udp|tcp] ["message;"] > (before: pd <portnumber> [host] [udp|tcp]) > > if no message is given, it reads from stdin as before (note that you'll > have to add a hostname and protocol to be able to write a message ... > if > not, it's looking for the corresponding hostname) ... > > i hope, i'm not the only one who benefits from this feature ... > cheers... > > Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de > ICQ: 96771783 > -- > The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, > mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, > the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, > burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across > the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and > everybody goes "Awww!" > Jack Kerouac > > >

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[APODIO] APODIO 0.9-fr
by juto aviten 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

/APO33 (Sound art organisation / association d'art sonore ) presents :/ *APODIO 0.9-fr (GNU/Linux)* APODIO is a live bootable cd, containing major audio tools (under Gnu/Linux - see list below) and a whole operating system (based on Mandrake 9.2) working from boot, without the need to install or change anything on the hard disk. You can try it out very easily and if you like it you can simply install it directly on your harddisk and run it locally. And if you whish, you can make your own apodio version. (The english version of APODIO will be soon available) APODIO est un live cd bootable, contenant les plus important outils de crÃ©ation audio (sous Gnu/linux - voir liste ci-dessous) et un systÃ¨me d'exploitation (basÃ© sur Mandrake 9.2) qui monte au dÃ©marrage de l'ordinateur, sans avoir besoin d'installer ni changer quoique ce soit sur le disque dur. Vous pouvez l'essayer trÃ¨s facilement et si vous le souhaitez vous pouvez l'installer directement sur votre disque dur et le faire fonctionner localement. Et si vous le souhaitez, vous pouvez faire votre propre version de l'apodio. web site : http://www.apodio.org tÃ©lÃ©chargement / download at : http://cd.apodio.org mailing list : mailto:sound-subscribe@apo33.org contact : info(a)apo33.org /The APODIO CD will be presented (+ intall party) at the 2nd *International Linux Audio Developper Conference* / at the ZKM in Karlsruhe (Germany) - 29 April / 2 May 2004. /L'APODIO sera prÃ©sentÃ© (+ sÃ©ance d'installation) Ã la seconde *ConfÃ©rence Internationale des DÃ©veloppeurs de Linux pour l'Audio *au ZKM de Karlsruhe (Allemagne) - 29 Avril / 2 Mai 2004. / _*Content of APODIO 0.9-fr *_ *Logiciels / softwares :* /AUDIO :/ *- _Ateliers modulaire / virtual modular workshop :_* -*Puredata 0.37.1* : logiciel de programmation graphique pour l'audio et la vidÃ©o en temps-rÃ©el / graphical programmation software for real -time audio & video processing -*Jmax* (4.0.2-1): logiciel de programmation graphique pour l'audio en temps-rÃ©el / graphical programmation for real time audio processing -*Cecilia 2.0 *: logiciel de programmation audio en langage Csound / Csound langage programmation software for audio -*Spiralsynthmodular 0.2.1*: synthÃ©tiseur modulaire temps-rÃ©el, avec Ã©dition de samples (utilise ladspa) / real time modular synthetizer with sample edition (use LADSPA) _*-Ã©diteurs, multipistes, effets / sound editors, multi-trackers studio, effects :*_ -*Ardour -0.9-0.beta3.3* : multipistes studio pro (LADSPA), utilise le serveur de son jack (temps-rÃ©el et studio) multitrackers for studio pro (LADSPA), use jack sound server (real time & studio) -*Audacity (1.2-0-pre2)* : multipistes, mixage et Ã©dition rapide (LADSPA) / multitrackers, easy audio mixing and editing (LADSPA) -*Ecasound (4.0.2)* : multipistes et Ã©diteurs de fichiers audio / audio files editor and multitrackers -*Freqtweak (0.5.2)* : rack d'effets utilisant l'analyse de spectre et control graphique d'effets (utilise jack) / effects mixer use spectral analysis abd effect graphical control -*Mhwavedit (1.2.3)* : Ã©diteur et enregistreur de fichier audio wav / audio wav recorder and editor -*Rezound (0.8.3beta)*: Ã©diteur, enregistreur de fichier audio (tout type de format) et outil de mastering / audio files (many format) recorder and editor. good mastering tools -*Sweep (0.8.2) *: Ã©diteur temps-rÃ©el et enregistreur de fichier audio wav (LADSPA) / audio wav and others format real time editor and recorder (LADSPA) -*Snd (6.11-1)*: Ã©diteur et multipistes de tout type de fichiers audio / all formats audio files editor & multitracker -*Gnusound (0.6)*: Ã©diteur et multipistes de tout type de fichiers audio / all formats audio files editor & multitracker _*- editeurs de partitions et midi / score & midi editors :*_ -*Abc Ã©diteur (0.17.0)* : Ã©diteurs de partitions midi / midi score editor -*muse (0.6.3)* : multipistes et Ã©diteurs midi et wav (utilise jack) / midi & wav editor & multitrackers -*Rosegarden (4-0.9.6)* : multipistes et Ã©diteurs multpistes audio et midi (jack) / audio & midi editor & multitrackers (jack) -*Timidity++ (2.12.0-pre1)* : Ã©diteurs de fichiers midi / midi files editor _*- Serveurs de son / sound server -Jack, Alsa et Daemons :* _ Jack est un serveur de son qui permet de connecter plusieurs clients (logiciels) entre eux -*jack daemons 0.94.3* : serveur de sons utilisant alsa / sound server using alsa -*qjackctl (0.2.4)* : client pour dÃ©marrer le serveur de son jack / graphic to start your sound server jack -*Ladcca (0.4.0-3)* : utilitaire pour sauvegarder les configurations serveur - client utilisÃ©s avec jack / utility to save your jack server and client configuration -tableaux de raccordements Alsa / Alsa mixing board (1.0.0) : pour pluger des applications alsa entre elles / plugs different alsa software together -*jack-rack (1.4.3)* : rack multi-effets (LADSPA) / multi-effects mixer (LADSPA) _*- Lecteurs / players :*_ *Mplayer (1.0pre3-3.3.1)* : lecteur audio et vidÃ©o - fichiers et streaming / video & audio player - files & streaming *Realplayer *: pour Ã©couter des flux audio et vidÃ©o au format .ram / to listen .ram audio & video streaming or files *Videolanclient (0.7.0)* : pour Ã©couter des flux vidÃ©o et audio / to listen audio & video streaming *Xmms (1.2.8)* : lecteur audio - fichiers et streaming (+ plugin vidÃ©o) / audio player - files & streaming (+ mplayer plugin) *Alsaplayer (0.99.75-4)* : lecteur audio - fichiers et lecteur CD / audio player - files and cd-rom player *Xine (0.9.22)* : lecteur vidÃ©o / video player _*-table de mixage, effets, vu mÃ©tres / mixer, effects, vumeters :*_ - *Gamix (1.99.p14-1)* : Mixer alsa configurable - *Aumix (2.8-6)* : simple mixer oss - *Ecamegapedal (0.4.3) *: rack d'effets en temps-rÃ©el & Ã©diteur audio utilisant ecasound (de nombreux effets dont ladspa) / real time effects mixer & audio editor with ecasound server -*Jamin (0.8.0)* : mastering temps-rÃ©el des applications utilisant jack / real time mastering for audio software using jack - *Ecasignalview ( 20021028-5)* : vu mÃ©tres / vumeters - *Envy24control (0.9.8-2)* : vu mÃ©tres et contrÃ´le du chipset son envy24 / vumeters & sound chipset envy24 control - *Gnome vumÃ©tres / vumeters* _*- Outils CD / CD tools :* _ - *Gcombust (0.1.54)* : logiciel de gravure de CD (data, audio, iso...) / CD burner software (data, audio, iso...) - *Grip (3.0.7)* : Ã©couter, ripper et encoder un CD / listen, ripper & encode a CD - *K3b (3.1.3)* : logiciel de gravure de CD (data, audio, iso...) / CD burner software (data, audio, iso...) _*- Flux audio via Internet / Streaming*_ *Gstreamer (0.6.4-1gpw) *: serveur / client et applications temps-rÃ©el pour faire du streaming audio et vidÃ©o / server, client & software for audio & video streaming *Icecast 1.3.12-3 & 2.0* : serveur de streaming MP3 et OGG / OGG & MP3 streaming server *Muse (0.8.1)* : client de connection Ã Icecast, stream des fichiers et du son en temps-rÃ©Ã©l (possibilitÃ© de mixer les deux) / client to connect to icecast server / stream files and sound card input (you could mix both!) *Gnomeeting (0.98.5)* : tÃ©lÃ©phonie et confÃ©rence vidÃ©o en ligne / video conference & phone online *Ices (2.0.0)* : client de streaming, prend la sortie son et la stream direct (ligne de commande) / streaming client to connect to icecast server, take sound card input (command ligne) _*- SynthÃ©ses, boÃ®tes Ã rythmes, synthÃ©tiseur modulaire / synthesis, beat box, modular synthetizor :*_ *-Alsamodularsynth (1.7.2)* : synthÃ©tiseur modulaire temps-rÃ©el (LADSPA) / real time modular synthetiser *-Beast (0.5.4-1)* : synthÃ©tiseur modulaire avec sÃ©quenseur et gÃ©nÃ©rateurs de sons (LADSPA) / modular synthetiser with sequencer & sound generators (LADSPA) *-Zynaddsubfx (1.4.3-4) *: Ã©diteur d'instruments midi avec effets en temps-rÃ©el / midi instruments editor with real time effects *-Didgeridoo (0.0.1)* : rack d'effets (jack) / effects mixer (jack) *-Soundtracker (0.6.7-pre6)* : tracker, editeur de samples, Ã©dition de pattern pour faire des morceaux / tracker, samples editor, pattern edition to play song! *-Freebirth (0.3.2)* : sÃ©quenseur, boites Ã rythme et Ã©diteur de sample / sequenser, beat box & samples player *-Hydrogen (0.8.0)* : sÃ©quenseur, boites Ã rythme et Ã©diteur de sample / sequenser, beat box & samples player *-Stompboxes (0.3)* : synthÃ©tiseur modulaire / modular synthetiser *-Rtsynth (1.9.2)* : synthÃ©tiseur midi / midi synthetiser *-Terminatorx (3.81)* : platines - Ã©diteur de samples avec effets en temps-rÃ©el (LADSPA) / turntables - samples editors with real time effetcs (LADSPA) _*- utilitaires / utilities :*_ *-Alsamixergui ( 0.9.0-0.9rc1_2)* : table de mixage pour le driver alsa utilisant la carte son / mixing board for alsa driver sound card *-Aumix (2.8-6) *: table de mixage carte son / sound card mixing board *-Vkeybd (1.9)* : Ã©diteur du clavier de l'ordinateur / computer keyboard editor for music! _*-Petits outils APODIO / APODIO little audio tools :*_ *-Wav vers/to mp3* : compression mp3 *-Wav vers/to Ogg *: compression Ogg *-Ogg vers/to wav *: decompression Ogg *-mp3 vers/to ogg* : conversion mp3 en Ogg *-aiff vers/to wav *: conversion aiff en wav *-mp3 vers/to wav *: dÃ©compression mp3 en wav *-Zoparleur* : lit Ã "voix haute" tout fichiers texte / text voice synthesis : read any text files *-xsox (0.78-1)* : multi-format player & encoder ( audio conversion) _*-Plugins : *_*-LADSPA (1.12-5)* - ( 200 plugins) : live vst for linux!! _*-spÃ©cial barre de tache / special dashboard :*_ *-Mldonkey (2.5.4+2-0.20040105.1) *: rÃ©seau d'Ã©changes de fichiers multimÃ©dia en peer to peer / multimedia files exchange network using peer to peer protocol -numÃ©ro IP pour votre machine / IP nnumber for your machine *-Oggstream *: stream en direct ce qui se passe sur votre carte son / stream you sound card! *-Icecast 1 & 2* : serveur de streaming - Ogg et mp3 - / streaming server - Ogg & mp3 - *-Muse* : client de stream pour Icecast (carte son, fichiers ogg et mp3) / Icecast's streaming client (sound card, audio files - ogg & mp3) *-Vnc server & client* *-Iceage* : console d'administration graphique pour les serveurs icecast / graphical interface to manage icecast servers *-Peercast* : logiciel de partage point Ã point de flux audio streaming / P2P software to share audio streaming *-Etherape* : controle visuel d'Ã©change de diffÃ©rents protocoles sur le rÃ©seau / visual control of exchanges of differents protocols on a network - configuration : hardware, cartes son... / sound card *-Mandrake control center* _*- autres applications utiles/ others utilities :*_ *Firefox dillo konqueror Nautilus Mldonkey client Gftp Linneighborhood Gedit Kwrite nedit ark xmag loopback Gcalctools xpdf wine Icons edit Eye of Gnome Imagemagik Gimp files finder nautilus xchat Gaim Gftp xterm gnome terminal* /+ autres utilitaires rÃ©seaux, surveillance systÃ¨me et configuration / + others softwares network, "system monitoring & configuration/

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Re: [PD] [GEM] Iterating geos trick
by acabrera＠teleset.com.co 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Hi all, IOhannes Z recently posted an example for [repeat] on this thread, but I get the digest and therefore can't (or don't know how to) use the encoded attachment that appears as text. I'm trying to make [repeat] work, but to no avail, and I can't find documentation on it (I do have zexy on my machine). I run XP, maybe it's just linux? Does anyone know how [repeat] works? Thanks, Andres

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disable F10 shortcut
by Andrew (Andy) W. Schmeder 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Hi. F10 appears to invoke the 'File' menu, I'd like to get rid of this shortcut because it interferes with the construction of my patches (I use the laptop keyboard as a primary controller). I looked for it in pd.tk but I can't find the binding (I don't really grok tcl/tk much either but I'd think it would not be so hard to find...). Can someone tell me where it is defined? Ideally I'd like to disable (at least temporarily) all of the Alt and Ctl bindings as well, since the keyboard overlay modes are extremely useful. Thanks, Andy. -- Andrew (Andy) W. Schmeder <andy \at a2hd \dot com> http://www.a2hd.com/

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Re: [PD] Help with writing externals
by thewade 04 Apr '04

04 Apr '04

Thanks for the help Yves and IOhannes, I tried your suguestion of 5, as relates to number of parameters, not to count of the sp array, which is what I thought at first. Your suguestion makes more sense. I still get a segmentation fault though, after I turn on audio processing. I looked at the page IOhannes pointed me too, and it looks like the only thing I dont do is step through all the samples in the block (while n-- busness). Could this be hats causing my break? Is the error message I get about fftbin_tilde_dsp really about fftbin_tilde_perform because of this treatment of the sampleblock? All I want to do is take one value, as specified by my seccond inlet, out of the whole sample block in the first inlet, and spit that out the outlet. I do this as below, in the perform function. Below is my perform function, the gdb output, and my dsp function. Thanks for the help again! -thewade /*-----------fftbin\'s perform function-------------------*/ t_int *fftbin_tilde_perform(t_int *w) { t_fftbin *ref = (t_fftbin *)(w[1]); //data structure t_sample *in1 = (t_sample *)(w[2]); //fft~ output int in2 = (int)(w[3]); //bin number t_sample *out = (t_float *)(w[4]); //outlet int n = (int)(w[5]); //number of samples in block int bin = in2; //get bin number if (bin<0) bin = 0; //clip bin to between 0 and n-1 if (bin>=n) bin = n-1; ref->x_bin = bin; //set datstructure ref->x_f = (t_float)*in1+ref->x_bin; //again, set datastructure *out = ref->x_f; //output float value of bin return (w+6); } /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ /*---------------gdb debug information-------------------*/ Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 1073855264 (LWP 1254)] 0x414b197b in fftbin_tilde_dsp () from /home/wade/pd/general/fftbin~.pd_linux (gdb) where #0 0x414b197b in fftbin_tilde_dsp () from /home/wade/pd/general/fftbin~.pd_linux #1 0x082321d0 in ?? () #2 0x082312d8 in ?? () #3 0x08231234 in ?? () #4 0x082321d0 in ?? () #5 0x0809daad in ugen_doit (dc=0x82312d8, u=0xffffffff) at d_ugen.c:750 #6 0x0809ea46 in ugen_done_graph (dc=0x8231eb8) at d_ugen.c:1007 #7 0x08230a20 in ?? () #8 0x08231eb8 in ?? () #9 0x00000001 in ?? () #10 0x00000001 in ?? () #11 0x00000000 in ?? () /*-------------------------------------------------------*/ /*------------------------fftbin dsp function------------*/ void fftbin_tilde_dsp(t_fftbin *ref, t_signal **sp) { dsp_add(fftbin_tilde_perform, 5, ref, sp[0]->s_vec, sp[1]->s_vec, sp[2]->s_vec, sp[0]->s_n); } /*-------------------------------------------------------*/

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sfplay quest
by Yury 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

hello list ! Does anybody know what is the difference between [sfplay]s from Zexy and Wr libraries ? and what is its signal input (1st) used for ? -- Best regs, Yury mailto:yurolog@mail.ur.ru

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Re: [PD] Help with writing externals
by thewade 03 Apr '04

03 Apr '04

Thanks Mathieu! I ran pd inside of gdb and figured out that my problem is in my dsp function, which only calls the dsp_add function. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. [Switching to Thread 1073855264 (LWP 1420)] 0x414b197b in fftbin_tilde_dsp () from /home/wade/pd/general/fftbin~.pd_linux So that just leaves me with the problem of figuring out the syntax of dsp_add. Heres how I thought it worked. This call... void fftbin_tilde_dsp(t_fftbin *ref, t_signal **sp) { dsp_add(fftbin_tilde_perform, 3, ref, sp[0]->s_vec, sp[1]->s_vec, sp[2]->s_vec, sp[0]->s_n); } ...corresponds to this t_int *w. t_int *fftbin_tilde_perform(t_int *w) { t_fftbin *ref = (t_fftbin *)(w[1]); //data structure t_sample *in1 = (t_sample *)(w[2]); //1st signal/bang inlet int in2 = (int)(w[3]); //2nd float inlet t_sample *out = (t_float *)(w[4]); //float outlet int n = (int)(w[5]); //number of samples in block Is this correct? Well, obviously not, but wheres the error? Thanks for the help! -thewade

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