Pd-list April 2004

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[Gem]-window clone...
by oliver 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

hi, i was just wondering if it's possible to clone the content of one Gem window into another and how to do so. the problem occured to me when i did a projection onto a monitor that was out of sight for me and i needed just a small control-monitoring-window on the computer to see what's actually going on. or is there a possibility to send a GEMList over netsend/netreceive or any other protocol ? -- //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\ http://klingt.org/ground/lift \\\\\\\\\\\\ ///////// http://klingt.org/executive-ensemble ///////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\ http://klingt.org/~oliver/prb \\\\\\\\\\\\ //////////////////////////////////////////////////////// \\\\\\\\ LIVE-BUILDER (music improvisation tool): \\\\\\ /////// http://klingt.org/~oliver/pd/live-builder ////// \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\

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allpass~ and phase shifting
by Stefan Turner 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Hi list, I am trying to figure out how to write an average guitar-pedal-style (to start off with) phase shifter using allpass~, but from what I have found about digital phase shifters, you need to use allpass filters where the delay of each input sine component is dependant upon the frequency. As far as I can tell, allpass~ only allows a constant delay. So while you can do a comb filter using it, I don't see how phase-shifting is possible. Any help would be appreciated! Cheers Stefan ____________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

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Example/help patch for Cyclone's sustain?
by Larry Troxler 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Is there one? Didn't find it in the CVS TIA LT

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am i alone with rtx troubles?
by --//-- 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

hi has anybody yet encountered crashes with pix_film and pix_rtx on windows? -- or am i alone with it -- or am i maybe the only one who uses it..... desperately wolfgang

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Audio trouble (2 in 6 out refused) - Mac OS X
by pdlist＠jlndrr.net 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Hi all, Two sound card issues that you may resolve (I use the stable package from Hans for Mac OS X): 1 - I've got an annoying problem with my audio settings: I have an USB 5.1 box, wich work natively with core audio, but if I try to set as 2 input / 6 output it gave me the following error: error: portaudio: number of input and output channels must match if I try to "lie" to PD, setting 6 in / 6 out, I logically got: Error number -9999 occured opening portaudio stream Error message: Invalid number of channels. Is it a known PD issue? Or is it an OS X issue? 2 - Is there a way to use multiple sound interface simultaneously with PD. I have a project where I would like to gather the input (very basically : sound/no sound) from dozens of sound inputs. Thanks to all for the riche information I have found here, and special thanks to all the developpers and packagers! jln

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workshop Pure Data, Amsterdam
by derek holzer 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

WORKSHOP PURE DATA Netherlands Media Art Institute, Montevideo/Time Based Arts 26 - 29 May 2004 Fee: E 150,- Guests: Aymeric Mansoux, Derek Holzer, Frank Barknecht and Jaromil This workshop is meant for beginners and will focus on Open Source software for the real-time manipulation of audio and video. The dual package of Pure Data and GEM, offer a complete set of tools for sound, multimedia and VJ purposes. Topics will include: real-time audio and video processing with PD and GEM, RRADical PD, PDP and an overview of other free and open source audio and video tools for Linux. PD and GEM The dual package of PD [Pure Data] and GEM [Graphics Environment for Multimedia], developed under an open source model by an international community of programmers, offers just such a set of tools. Running under Windows, Linux or OSX, PD and GEM can be used in commonly available, inexpensive hardware as a complete multimedia environment. Both applications allow for the real-time manipulation of sound and image data within a visual programming environment which does not require any previous experience in traditional computer languages. PDP is a set of external objects to PD developed by Tom Schouten, runs under Linux and OSX, and are based on the idea of processing data in packets. While it is primarily used for video, the basic structure of PDP allows any kind of data to be processed into any other kind of data. Images can be converted to textures, which can be mapped onto 3D objects, converted back to images, changed into sound, re-rendered again as image, and so on. The possibilities are endless. RRADical PD (Reusable and Rapid Audio Development) is a set of patches created by Frank Barknecht in order to make Pure Data easier and faster to use for newcomers and for people who are looking for a collection of standardized music tools similar to what commerical software packages such as Reason or Reaktor offer. The workshop is for beginners. The level will go up while the week progresses. The first day will be dedicated to basic PD and for those who bring their own machine, an installation session. For applications please contact Marloes de Valk marloes(a)montevideo.nl <mailto:marloes@montevideo.nl> Purpose While many tools exist for sound, multimedia and VJ purposes, few of them are designed with an open architecture which allows artists to configure the tools they use themselves. Fewer still are free. The importance of an open source development model may seem academic at first, but in fact there is a strong need for a workshop of this kind. The fees, licenses and restrictions that come with commercial software become more and more restrictive every day, and the knowledge in the new media community of free and open source software is extremely limited. Coupled with this is the stigma that open source software, such as Linux, is "too difficult" for artists to use. This workshop aims to provide the tools which can be taken away and put to use immediately and the knowledge of how to use them productively. Details The workshop sessions will be held in the Netherlands Media Art Institute. Over the 4 days of the workshop, 12 participants will learn about PD, GEM, and PDP, working under the Linux operating system. Topics of the workshop will include: * Crash course 'Installing PD and GEM for beginners' with invited guests * Basic PD with Derek Holzer * Basic GEM with Aymeric Mansoux * Intermediate PD with Derek Holzer * RRADical PD with Frank Barknecht * PDP with Aymeric Mansoux * Clinic * Presentation and jamm session At the end of the fourth day a short presentation of the workshop will take place. This presentation will be open to an audience invited by the participants. The workshop will finish with a "Jam Session", in which the participants can share the creations they have made with each other and with the audience. Invited Guests Frank Barknecht (D) Open source developer, sound artist and the creator of the End-User Abstractions project (RRADical PD, Reusable and Rapid Audio Development) which makes it possible to learn using Pd in a top-down way, making PD more accessible and open. <http://footils.org> Aymeric Mansoux (F) Artist and author of pure-data tutorials/articles for MusicRun, Co-Founder of a group dedicated to alternative digital art study and Co-Founder of Goto10, an organization dedicated to set up and produce electronic live events. <http://www.bleu255.com> Derek Holzer (NL/US) Sound artist currently based in Utrecht. Initiated the Acoustic Space Lab Project, an "open source sampling project" which invites artists to use a database of samples gathered at a former Soviet spy station to create a common body of work. <http://acoustic.space.re-lab.net/lab> <http://www.umatic.nl> Jaromil (I) Jaromil is an italian GNU/Linux programmer, author and mantainer of three free softwares and a operating system: MuSe (for running a web radio), FreeJ (for veejay and realtime video manipulation), HasciiCam (ascii video streaming) and dyne:bolic. http://rastasoft.org/ <http://rastasoft.org> Marloes de Valk Educatie Nederlands Instituut voor Mediakunst, Montevideo/Time Based Arts Keizersgracht 264 1016 EV Amsterdam T 020 6237101 F 020 6244423 E marloes(a)montevideo.nl www.montevideo.nl Marloes de Valk Educatie Nederlands Instituut voor Mediakunst, Montevideo/Time Based Arts Keizersgracht 264 1016 EV Amsterdam T 020 6237101 F 020 6244423 E marloes(a)montevideo.nl www.montevideo.nl ______________________________________________ SPECTRE list for media culture in Deep Europe Info, archive and help: http://coredump.buug.de/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/spectre

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Re: [PD-announce] workshop Pure Data
by Yves Degoyon 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

> >Note for OSX and Windows users >PD, GEM and PDP are multi platform and besides Linux can be used under OSX and Windows. > PDP does not and will never run on Windows. >There will be a special 'installing PD and GEM crash course on the first day of the workshop, which will take beginners through the process of installation step by step. OSX users should take into account that installing PDP on their machines might not be possible during the limited time of the workshop. > i think it should take one hour. > A step by step manual is available online. > > whatever.., sevy

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Re: Gaining access to /usr/local/lib/pd/extra in the Finder?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Let's keep this on the list, it could be helpful to others. On Wednesday, Apr 7, 2004, at 19:39 America/New_York, chun lee wrote: > Hi there: > > Thanks for your reply:) > >> What happened to #2? ;) Anyway, this depends on where and how you >> installed Pd. If you used the installer, then the externals are >> installed into /usr/local/lib/pd/extra. > > Ya, #2 was deleted cause it sounded a bit silly..... Anyway, I figured > out > the externals are all at '/usr/local/lib/pd/extra' but the folder is > hidden > in the Finder. Is there a way that I can gain access to these folders > via > the Finder? Or could I use the Terminal to copy the /extra folder to > somewhere that I have access to and then change the file path in Pd? I > will > give it a try... There are two ways that I know to open hidden folders with the GUI. First in the Open panel, you can just type it and hit enter. Or from the Terminal.app, you can do: "open /usr/local/lib/pd/extra" .hc > >> pdb is a great resource, but unfortunately, since it has to be >> manually >> updated, it doesn't get updated much. So it shouldn't be taken as >> definitive. The easiest way to find out what objects are installed on >> your computer is to look in the above mentioned externals directory. >> >> .hc > > Ok, now I know. > > Many thanks > > Yours > > CHUN > ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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website for Cyclone, toxy, etc. is gone...
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

Anyone know where Krzysztof Czaja's pages went? All of the links that I have are turning up 403 Forbidden: http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/cyclone.html http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/plustot.html http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/cyclone.html http://suita.chopin.edu.pl/~czaja/miXed/externs/scriptlets.html .hc ________________________________________________________________________ ____ "Information wants to be free." -Stewart Brand

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makenote and duplicate notes
by William Fields 09 Apr '04

09 Apr '04

I am using "makenote" and I am running into a problem with duplicate notes. If I tell it to send note 32 with duration 2000ms, then 1000ms later I tell it to send the same note (32 with duration 2000ms), the second note gets cut off after 1000ms by the first note's note-off message. The second note-off message is still sent but is useless because the note is no longer playing. See my illustration below. [--------------------] [---------- ] I would like the first note to stop when the second one is triggered, like this: [---------] [--------------------] Any ideas? Thanks, -Bill http://www.williamfields.com

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