Pd-list April 2004

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alternate
by Adrian deCleir 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

is this object available anywhere except the GEM library, I cant seem GEM properly and I dont have any use for it except for the object 'alternate' cheers adrian

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pd newbee
by odiv . 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

hi. i have one thing to ask: how do i "convert" a pd patch written like this: #N canvas 241 163 535 358 10; #X floatatom 368 247 0 0 0 0 - - -; #N canvas 159 26 495 266 output 0; #X obj 372 176 t b............... to a "real" pd patch? do i need to compile it or maybe smthing else? thanx in advance _________________________________________________________________ MÃ¸d den perfekte kÃ¦reste pÃ¥ MSN StÃ¦vnemÃ¸de http://match.msn.dk/match/mt.cfm?pg=channel&tcid=3131

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controleur midi usb ecran tactile
by guillaume 14 Apr '04

14 Apr '04

Est ce que l'un d'entre vous pourrai me renseigner ? Je cherche un petit ecran tactile usb a utiliser en controleur midi (xy). Je ne sais pas si il existe des boitiers de controleurs comprenant putters, slider et ecrant tactile xy. Merci .

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Re: [PD] dynamic sliders
by arana frederik 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

thanks, this is what i was looking for, sori for the bad basic/question and thanks for help. Citation de Frank Barknecht <fbar(a)footils.org>: >>Hallo, >>CK hat gesagt: // CK wrote: >> >>> I read: >>> > i would like to change some sliders value dynamicaly >>when i load a sound in. >>> > what message or object i should use to do so? >>> >>> hmmm [send to-slider] ?? >>> just set the receive of the slider to to-slider in the >>properties. >> >>Or do it the traditional way and connect something to the >>inlet of the >>slider? ;) >> >>Seriously now: If you load your samples with soundfiler, >>then >>soundfiler outputs the number of samples in the soundfile >>to its >>outlet. You can use this value to do various things, for >>example set a >>sliders range. Right-click a slider and select help for >>the full list >>of slider operations in the [pd edit] subpatch setting >>the range is >>done with a [range from to( message. >> >>Ciao >>-- >> Frank Barknecht _ >>______footils.org__ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>PD-list mailing list >>PD-list(a)iem.at >>http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >>

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re:[PD] elasticity algorithm
by arana frederik 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

you can use pmpd http://drpichon.free.fr/pmpd/

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size of loaded audio to array
by derek holzer 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Another memory-related question: When I load an audio file to an array, the array resizes to a certain length and loads the audio in mono. Does this mean that only the samples which are in the array are stored RAM, or is the whole file kept in RAM? I ask because I have been using several very large samples for live granulation, and PD keeps hanging because it runs out of memory, so I want to know if squeezing down the files would help. thx, d. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 143: "Simple subtraction"

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Help move from .deb to cvs
by Ian Smith-Heisters 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

I've been running PD mostly under Windows, but recently made the move to Linux and I've been itching to use PD there. So I installed PD using the .deb s (running Debian sarge). However, my itch for control, compilation, code, externals and fancy new whatnots can't seem to be satisfied except by grabbing the cvs sources and compiling them myself. But here's the catch, I've never used cvs. I looked at the cvs homepage, but all the information I found seemed to pertain to using it for local projects, and starting them from scratch. Can anyone point me to a good tutorial for using cvs? Then, once I've got cvs figured out, are there any tips for using cvs for pd? At this point I won't be contributing, but I'd like to look at the source with the eventual aim of contributing here and there. Thanks, Ian

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NewbieQ: Patch for VU
by Christopher Keyes 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Thanks, but I've gone through the help patch many times. The problem is that the [pd source] subpatch used in the VU.help file generates random integers between -101 and 0. It is NOT a signal. I assume VU can be used to measure signals, but I can't see how to convert a signal to integers between -101 and 0. Any help appreciated, Christopher. > Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2004 20:41:05 -0400 > Subject: Re: [PD] NewbieQ: Patch for VU? > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> > There is a help patch for [vu], its included in the MacOS X installer, > the Debian docs, and probably the Windows installer as well. >

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Re: [PD] NewbieQ: Patch for VU?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Ah, I see, I misunderstood. You want the [prvu~] object from IEMlib. It does exactly that. .hc On Monday, Apr 12, 2004, at 22:38 America/New_York, Christopher Keyes wrote: > Thanks, but I have this already. The problem is that the [pd source] > subpatch generates random integers between > -100 and 0. It is not a signal. I assume VU can be used to measure > signals, but I can't see how to convert a signal > to integers between -100 and 0. > > Cheers, > > Christopher. > _____________________________________________________________ > Dr. Christopher Keyes, BA Course Coordinator/ > Assistant Professor - Department of Music and Fine Arts > Hong Kong Baptist University > 224 Waterloo Road, Kowloon, Hong Kong > Office Phone: (852) 3411-7388 Office Fax: (852) 3411-7870 > e-mail: ckeyes(a)hkbu.edu.hk > http://www.hkbu.edu.hk/~ckeyes > _____________________________________________________________ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Hans-Christoph Steiner > To: ckeyes(a)hkbu.edu.hk > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.at > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 8:41 AM > Subject: Re: [PD] NewbieQ: Patch for VU? > > > There is a help patch for [vu], its included in the MacOS X installer, > the Debian docs, and probably the Windows installer as well. > > I attached it. > > > <image.tiff> > > > > > > .hc > > On Monday, Apr 12, 2004, at 09:45 America/New_York, KEYES CHRISTOPHER > JAY wrote: > > Hi gurus, > > Is there a simple patch somewhere that shows exactly > how you would use the graphic 'VU' to actually measure a signal? I can > take a 'snapshot~' of a signal, but do not know how to convert that to > a value VU understands...which might be handy in a help patch:-). > > Thanks in advance, > > > Christopher > > _____________________________________________________________ > Dr. Christopher Keyes, BA Course Coordinator/ > Assistant Professor - Department of Music and Fine Arts > Hong Kong Baptist University > 224 Waterloo Road, Kowloon, Hong Kong > Office Phone: (852) 3411-7388 Office Fax: (852) 3411-7870 > e-mail: ckeyes(a)hkbu.edu.hk > http://www.hkbu.edu.hk/~ckeyes > _____________________________________________________________ > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.at > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > http://at.or.at/hans/ > > > ________________________________________________________________________ ____ There is no way to peace, peace is the way. -A.J. Muste

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viewable pd pathces, anyone?
by Jesse Sullivan 13 Apr '04

13 Apr '04

Hi all, I'm a bit of a Newbie to PD still - and as Im plodding thru it all, I'm more and more keen to see how other people have made sense of it all.... I've only seena few peoples patchez before - I was wondering if anyone knew of any people, sites or maybe thres s0omeone on the list who has any viewable examples of a working patch they've made? Im just keen to see what other creative uses their are for PD to give myself a bit of context... also interested in what crazies are doin all night long bangin that QWERTY. jEss ----- Original Message ----- From: <pd-list-request(a)iem.at> To: <pd-list(a)iem.at> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 5:12 AM Subject: PD-list digest, Vol 1 #1106 - 12 msgs > Send PD-list mailing list submissions to > pd-list(a)iem.at > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pd-list-request(a)iem.at > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pd-list-admin(a)iem.at > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of PD-list digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Access to /usr/local/lib/pd/extra..........my solution (Mathieu Bouchard) > 2. .pdrc # (aym3ric) > 3. Re: how to get matrix coordinates???? (yasmin ahmad) > 4. Re: .pdrc # (Tim Blechmann) > 5. need Instructions installing PD osx (=?iso-8859-1?q?Eduardo=20Melendez?=) > 6. a tale of two rewraps (derek holzer) > 7. Re: a tale of two rewraps (Olaf Matthes) > 8. Re: need Instructions installing PD osx (matthew shanley) > 9. querying for the size of an array? (David Merrill) > 10. Re: Sample Grabber (learn from my bad example) (Bradon Webb) > 11. Re: need Instructions installing PD osx (Hans-Christoph Steiner) > 12. Re: Sample Grabber (learn from my bad example) (Bradon Webb) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 03:46:54 -0400 (EDT) > From: Mathieu Bouchard <matju(a)sympatico.ca> > To: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> > cc: chun lee <leechun(a)leechun.freeserve.co.uk>, Pd_list <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] Access to /usr/local/lib/pd/extra..........my solution > > > On Thu, 8 Apr 2004, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: > > > But unfortunately, that method won't tell you want objects are in the > > libraries that you have. I think Mathieu Bouchard's IMPD has an object > > listing feature which hopefully will make it into wide distribution. > > The object class browser (and the name completion in edition of > objectboxes) rely on Pd's loaded classes, not the non-loaded ones, though > after the Tcl side has downloaded the list from the C side, it attempts to > complete the list by adding non-loaded externals. It won't go look inside > non-loaded libraries, though, as it's simply not possible to do so in any > kind of meaningful, reliable way. > > ________________________________________________________________ > Mathieu Bouchard http://artengine.ca/matju > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 16:38:19 +0200 > From: aym3ric <stm-sq(a)bleu255.com> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at <pd-list(a)iem.at> > Subject: [PD] .pdrc # > > hello, > > is there a way to comment lines in the .pdrc file ? > seems like nothing has been implemented to interpret "#" thinggies > would be really handy imho .. > > aym3ric. > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > From: "yasmin ahmad" <yahmad(a)mail.com> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Cc: "Owen Cartwright" <ocartwri(a)bennington.edu> > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 10:41:09 -0500 > Subject: Re: [PD] how to get matrix coordinates???? > > Hi, > > I asked this question a couple of weeks ago. Check out the archives for March 29,2004. > I'm assuming you are using zexy...the solution looks like this: > > | > [pack] > | | > [element $1 $2( > | > [mtx] > | > > Yasmin A. > > > Message: 3 > > From: "Owen Cartwright" <ocartwri(a)bennington.edu> > > To: <pd-list(a)iem.at> > > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2004 21:23:41 -0400 > > Subject: [PD] how to get matrix coordinates???? > > > > can someone help me with how to get a matrix coordinate? like if i have a 3 > > by 3 matrix, how do i extract the point (1, 2)?? can this be done? is there > > some other object that might do this better? > > thanks, owen c. > > > -- > ___________________________________________________________ > Sign-up for Ads Free at Mail.com > http://promo.mail.com/adsfreejump.htm > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:44:36 +0200 > From: Tim Blechmann <TimBlechmann(a)gmx.net> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] .pdrc # > > > is there a way to comment lines in the .pdrc file ? > > seems like nothing has been implemented to interpret "#" thinggies > > would be really handy imho .. > i added this feature to the cvs branch devel_0_37 ... > > cheers... > > Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de > ICQ: 96771783 > -- > The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, > mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, > the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, > burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across > the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and > everybody goes "Awww!" > Jack Kerouac > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:14:35 -0500 (CDT) > From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Eduardo=20Melendez?= <x_edumel(a)yahoo.com.mx> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: [PD] need Instructions installing PD osx > > Hi, I need yor help. I canÅ½t install PD on macosX. > Tcl-Tk is allready installed, but donÅ½t know the next > step. I think I really need detailed instructions. > Thanks, Edu. > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > La mejor conexiÃ³n a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:45:26 +0200 > From: derek holzer <derek(a)x-i.net> > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: [PD] a tale of two rewraps > > Here's a funny one: > > There is a "rewrap" object in Zexy, and a "rewrap" object in Maxlib. > Only one of them does what I want it to, which is to rewrap forwards and > backwards between the two creation arguments, and not wrap all the way > back to the first [this is what "wrap" is for, I guess]. > > Now, if I need both libraries, how can I specify which of the same-named > objects PD will use? > > hmmmm.... > > d. > > > -- > derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl > ---Oblique Strategy # 104: > "Listen in total darkness, or in a very large room, very quietly" > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 19:36:34 +0200 > From: Olaf Matthes <olaf.matthes(a)gmx.de> > To: pd-list <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Subject: Re: [PD] a tale of two rewraps > > derek holzer wrote: > > > Here's a funny one: > > > > There is a "rewrap" object in Zexy, and a "rewrap" object in Maxlib. > > Only one of them does what I want it to, which is to rewrap forwards > > and backwards between the two creation arguments, and not wrap all the > > way back to the first [this is what "wrap" is for, I guess]. > > > > Now, if I need both libraries, how can I specify which of the > > same-named objects PD will use? > > > 'maxlib_rewrap' instead of 'rewrap' will give you the one from maxlib, > don't know how to make sure that the other one will be the one from > zexy. I guess you'll have to load the libs in the correct order, > probably zexy first, followed by maxlib. But I never tried this. > > Olaf > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 13:39:43 -0500 > From: matthew shanley <mshanley(a)alum.rpi.edu> > To: Eduardo Melendez <x_edumel(a)yahoo.com.mx> > CC: pd-list(a)iem.at > Subject: Re: [PD] need Instructions installing PD osx > > have you tried the PureDataInstaller from the sourceforge download area? > http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pure-data/PureDataInstaller_0.37-2003.10. 02.dmg?download > it makes everything incredibly easy. > > matt > > > Eduardo Melendez wrote: > > Hi, I need yor help. I canÅ½t install PD on macosX. > > Tcl-Tk is allready installed, but donÅ½t know the next > > step. I think I really need detailed instructions. > > Thanks, Edu. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > La mejor conexiÃ³n a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. http://net.yahoo.com.mx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list mailing list > > PD-list(a)iem.at > > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 14:25:34 -0400 > From: David Merrill <dmerrill(a)media.mit.edu> > To: PD-list <PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Subject: [PD] querying for the size of an array? > > Hello - > Is there a way to query the size of an array? I'm playing samples from > arrays, and I've discovered the -resize flag to the "read" message that > I give to soundfiler which allows the array to change size dynamically > to match the wav file. Now I'm interested in formulating my message to > tabread4 dynamically, depending on the size of the array. > much appreciated, > David Merrill > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:09:54 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bradon Webb <amodiuslonodium(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Sample Grabber (learn from my bad example) > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Cc: Patrick Pagano <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> > > --0-1632518354-1081710594=:98848 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Id: > Content-Disposition: inline > > I don't know if this will help any but here is a quick > abstraction I made some time ago. It has some > simmilar like functions to what I think you are > looking for. It records sound to an array taken in > through the left inlet. you need to hit the rec bang > button to capture a sample. The size can be adjusted > to lengthen or shorten the table. an auto box can be > checked so to automatically record a new sample to the > table right after the previous one. the save box can > be checked to save each table as a wav file on your > hard drive. in order to play the samples back though > you need to have another device for playing them. The > simplest way is to make a sample reader abstraction > that reads from the same table name of the array > inside the +grabsample abstraction. 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I can=B4t install PD on macosX. > > Tcl-Tk is allready installed, but don=B4t know the next > > step. I think I really need detailed instructions. > > Thanks, Edu. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > La mejor conexi=F3n a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al = > mes. =20 > > http://net.yahoo.com.mx > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list mailing list > > PD-list(a)iem.at > > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > > ________________________________________________________________________=20= > > ____ > > "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of =20= > > exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an =20 > idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps =20= > > it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the =20= > > possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of =20= > > it." > > - Thomas Jefferson > > --Apple-Mail-51-324245153 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Type: text/enriched; > charset=ISO-8859-1 > > > > Check out the newly reinstated Pd FAQ for how to: > > > http://pure-data.iem.at/docs/faq/ > > > Its very easy when you use an installer. > > > .hc > > > On Sunday, Apr 11, 2004, at 13:14 America/New_York, Eduardo Melendez > wrote: > > > <excerpt>Hi, I need yor help. I can=B4t install PD on macosX. > > Tcl-Tk is allready installed, but don=B4t know the next > > step. I think I really need detailed instructions. > > Thanks, Edu. > > > _________________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > La mejor conexi=F3n a internet y 25MB extra a tu correo por $100 al mes. > http://net.yahoo.com.mx > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list mailing list > > PD-list(a)iem.at > > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > > </excerpt><fontfamily><param>Tahoma</param> > > = > __________________________________________________________________________= > __ > > > "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of > exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an > idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps > it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into > the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself > of it."=20 > > > - Thomas = > Jefferson</fontfamily> > > > --Apple-Mail-51-324245153-- > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 12:11:37 -0700 (PDT) > From: Bradon Webb <amodiuslonodium(a)yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: [PD] Sample Grabber (learn from my bad example) > To: pd-list(a)iem.at > Cc: Patrick Pagano <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> > > --0-1162281426-1081710697=:44313 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Id: > Content-Disposition: inline > > I don't know if this will help any but here is a quick > abstraction I made some time ago. It has some > simmilar like functions to what I think you are > looking for. It records sound to an array taken in > through the left inlet. you need to hit the rec bang > button to capture a sample. The size can be adjusted > to lengthen or shorten the table. an auto box can be > checked so to automatically record a new sample to the > table right after the previous one. the save box can > be checked to save each table as a wav file on your > hard drive. in order to play the samples back though > you need to have another device for playing them. The > simplest way is to make a sample reader abstraction > that reads from the same table name of the array > inside the +grabsample abstraction. I am sorry the > programming is incosistent and is horribly > confusing... > > > Bradon > > > --- Patrick Pagano <bigswift(a)ufl.edu> wrote: > > Hi > > > > i am trying to devise an appropriate sample grabber > > for pd OSX. > > I would like to grab 10- (5) second samples, save > > them to seperate > > buffers and be able to play them back. > > i am fine with routing effects etc.. but always have > > a little > > difficulty with this initial stage. > > Starting Tips anyone??? > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PD-list mailing list > > PD-list(a)iem.at > > http://iem.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Tax Center - File online by April 15th > http://taxes.yahoo.com/filing.html > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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