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Re: Mac OS X installer for Pd - question
by Adam Lindsay 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

David Collett said this at Fri, 19 Mar 2004 02:21:31 -0800: >Hi, Alan. Hi David. It's Adam, actually, but I get that a lot. >I just read the April 2004 edition of Electronic Musician magazine. On >p. 76 is an article about Pd. Your name is listed as the author of the >OS X installer for Pd. Huh. I didn't realise that. Thanks for the heads-up. I need to update that web page now, then! Basically, my installer is old, but it still works. Hans-Christoph Steiner has since done more ambitious, up-to-date installer work that's available here: <http://www.pure-data.org/Members/hans/> (access might be limited now due to DNS problems...) Pd folks, looks like we'll have a bunch of newcomers (I answered a similar question last night). I'll update my webpage to point to H-C's work, but with pure-data.org still having DNS problems, I don't know exactly where to send people! best, adam >I downloaded the installer (v0.36 extended) and installed it. > >In your ReadMe file, you mention the site: > >http://sourceforge.net/projects/pure-data/ > >I went there and saw that the latest version is 0.37 > >There is a link to: > >http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php? >group_id=55736&package_id=76013&release_id=189797 > >with 3 files on it. Do any or all of these work for OS X? > >Should I download them, or should I stay with v0.36 from your .Mac site? > >Thanks for creating this OS X installer, and thanks for your help! -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Adam T. Lindsay atl(a)comp.lancs.ac.uk Computing Dept, Lancaster University +44(0)1524/594.537 Lancaster, LA1 4YR, UK Fax:+44(0)1524/593.608 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

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Re: [PD] Concept: Open Knowledge Online Univercity (OKOU)
by Anton Woldhek 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

Hi Ian and the rest, Ive cross-posted this to the pd-ot list, as Frank suggested, so i'll continue this conversation there after my reply. Ian wrote: > I don't think it's a terrible idea, I just think it's a bit too... static, limited, and immalleable to specific needs > with being 'cleared' to take higher level classes and being required to teach lower level classes. I agree that there is a fair bit of responsibility involved in this concept, I can see how that might detter a lot of people. But on the other hand, and this is something that I miss in a lot of internet communities, it also creates a structered learning enviroment, something i've yet to find on the internet. This could mean a lot to people who might not have the best self-discipline but do have the motivation to acquire knowledge on complex issues can get that kind of structure. Again, nobody is "required" to teach if all they would want is basic, or introductory knowledge on a topic, if you then decide its not your intrest, you can just venture on to a different course, however, if you think its something you want to know a lot more about, we ask a favor in return, that you recount what you've been taught to somebody that also wants to learn about that topic. To me, this is also something that serves a great benefit for the person thats going to teach because its been proven lots of times now, that recounting what you have been taught improves your own level of comprehension of it. Not only that, your students will be paying close attention to what your saying, and when they spot a mistake in your thinking their more then likely to let you know about it! Which again, is only to your own benifit. I dont think being a "teach" in this class format will actually be taking that much time from you. Because the teaching materials will allready be there, so everybody does there reading as they would if they were just browesing the topic on the web. But the extra is that you give them assigments or tests that you check, which would be the most time consuming part of it for you. Perhaps a course should only take about 3 weeks, this would mean that the strain on the teach wouldnt be too big. Thank you for your reply, its given me plenty of food for thought, i hope to continue this discussion with you. Cheers Anton

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pd + midi = glitches
by derek holzer 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

Hi gang, Maybe someone can help me out of this latest head-scratcher: I have noticed that I tend to get audio glitches during performance when using external MIDI controllers, using the MIDI-in of my HDSP card under Linux [haven't tried any other way, however]. Tonight, experimenting with only the "test Audio + MIDI" help patch and my MIDI fader box, I found that, yes, MIDI appears to be the cause of the problem. It doesn't glitch every time, but it does do it fairly often when changing the faders, and never when I don't touch them. Using OSS or Jack does not make any difference, although Jack happily reports: **** alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 0.042 msecs every time a glitch occurs. I also tried starting pd as -rt [with "sudo"] as well as setting the period size of Jack to 2048 [much more than an HDSP should need!] and using that in realtime mode as well. PD + ALSA + HDSP does not work on my setup, although PD + ALSA + i810 soundcard works fine. Go figure. Any of you other HDSP users out there see this? I wonder if it has anything to do with audio + MIDI sharing one device? Improbable, I know, but still.... Any suggestions will be appreciated. D. -- derek holzer ::: http://www.umatic.nl ---Oblique Strategy # 3: "A very small object -Its centre"

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what is a list? (symbols vs. floats)
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

There are a number of datatype inconsistencies that drive me nuts in Pd and I am wondering what the rhyme or reason is, or whether they are just bugs. I have tried to start documenting them as I come along them. Here's a start: When is a list a list? According to [route]: [list 1 2 3( is a list [1 2 3( is a list [list one two three( is a list [one two three( is NOT a list [one 2 3( is NOT a list [1 two three( is a list Ok, I can see that anything that starts with a float is automatically deemed a list, while anything that starts with a symbol is automatically deemed not a list unless cast as such. This is confusing and I don't see the benefit. .hc #N canvas 704 57 539 385 10; #X msg 126 63 1 2 3; #X obj 149 202 route list; #X obj 149 223 print list; #X obj 224 223 print NOTlist; #X msg 118 43 list 1 2 3; #X msg 145 88 list one two three; #X msg 152 107 one two three; #X msg 167 130 1 two three; #X msg 174 160 one 2 3; #X connect 0 0 1 0; #X connect 1 0 2 0; #X connect 1 1 3 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 5 0 1 0; #X connect 6 0 1 0; #X connect 7 0 1 0; #X connect 8 0 1 0;

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[live CD] FW: dyne:bolic 1.2 codename "DYNE:TRAX"
by derek holzer 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

Apologies for x-posting, but I think this is a nice follow-up on the live CD thread of the last couple weeks. Jaromil has updated the externals collection of PD for this release [no mention of PDP yet, but I am sure that will be in a future version...]. It also runs on XBox. Yahoo! enjoy! d. Quoting jaromil <jaromil(a)dyne.org>: ----------------------------> ANNUNCIAZIO'! ANNUNCIAZIO'! MARI' MARI', E' NATO NN'ATRE'CCRIATUR'! dyne.org laboratorio di software libero autoprodotto, presenta: _ _ _ _ _ ____ __| |_ _ _ __ ___ _| |__ ___ | (_) ___ / | |___ \ / _` | | | | '_ \ / _ (_) '_ \ / _ \| | |/ __| | | __) | | (_| | |_| | | | | __/_| |_) | (_) | | | (__ | |_ / __/ \__,_|\__, |_| |_|\___(_)_.__/ \___/|_|_|\___| |_(_)_____| |___/ codename DYNE:TRAX this is RASTA SOFTWARE, Jah Rastafari Livity bless your freedom! FREE DOWNLOAD of the RAW ISO CD IMAGE ___ _ _ _ http://dynebolic.org _ __ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ http://dynebolic.org _ __ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ http://dynebolic.org _ __ ___ __ ___ _ _ _ http://dynebolic.org _ __ ___ __ 612 MBytes of free software operating system (see the download instructions below) :: WHAT IS DYNE:BOLIC ? Dyne:bolic GNU/Linux is a live bootable cd, containing a whole operating system working straight from boot, without the need to install or change anything on the hard disk. You can try it out very easily and if you like it you can simply copy a directory on your harddisk and run it locally. Dyne:bolic is user-friendly, recognizes your hardware devices (sound, video, firewire, and USB), and offers a VAST range of free software applications for multimedia production, audio and video streaming, sound composition and synthesis, 3D modeling, photography, peer2peer filesharing, web browsing, desktop publishing, word processing, cd burning, email, encryption, remote conferencing and even more. It also includes many games and a world atlas navigator. It does automatic clustering, joining the CPU power between any other dyne:bolic on the local network. Last but not least: it works on modded XBOX game consoles. Dyne:bolic is shaped on the needs of media activists and artists to stimulate the production and not only the fruition of digital and analog informations. It takes birth as a grassroot effort to spread free software and the spirit of sharing information and knowledge. :: WHAT'S NEW IN THIS RELEASE ? The new release 1.2 codename "DYNE:TRAX" is a milestone fixing many outstanding bugs of the previous version, while it also implement some major features enhancements: - lots of new software for musicians - and you can connect in/out between all music applications with the JACK CONNECTION KIT, with professional quality and low-latency results! - the possibility to run dyne:bolic from harddisk, simply copying a directory inside your partition and that's it! it runs BLAZING FAST - new software functionalities for desktop publishing, video manipulation and live audio/video conferencing via multicast - wider device support and revamped startup scripts and SDK and here is the complete ChangeLog: = 1.2 milestone "DYNE:TRAX" - dockable system: dynebolic can run from harddisk, simply copying the /dyne dir on your partition. It goes much faster then, especially on xbox. - [dyne:trax] sound production suite: native ALSA + JACK low latency rackable sound studio audio software included: alsa-patch-bay-1.0, freqtweak-0.5.3, jack-rack-1.4.3, ladcca-0.4, qjackctl-0.2.4, Soundtracker-0.6.7, spiralsyntmodular-0.2.2, pd-0.37-1test6 with iemlib, zexy and GEM, Hydrogen. - new software: JahShaka-1.9a5, jack-0.94 (dyne:trax) Scribus-1.0.1, Firewallbuilder-1.1.2, potrace-1.2, Mutt-1.5.6i, OpenMash (mbone conferencing tools), xvidcap-1.1.3, Transcode-0.6.12, Gringotts-1.2.7 - updated software: Mpeg4Ip-1.0, RDesktop-1.3.1, Rezound-0.9b, Palantir-2.5.4, FreeJ-0.6.1-cvs, Firefox-0.8, Gtk-2.2.4, GnuPG-1.2.4, Gpa-0.7-cvs, Sylpheed-0.9.9, xmms-1.2.9, qt-3.3, AbiWord-2.0.5, TerminatorX-3.81 - more devices supported: usbvision, scpca5xx, acx100 and all other vanilla upgrades in Linux kernel 2.4.22 - new games: Liquidwar-5.6.1, Wesnoth-0.6.99.2 - video and audio extras - removed software: Trommler (subst with Hydrogen) - rewrite of startup files, taschino2 nesting utility all users are encouraged to upgrade to this new version! :: THIS IS RASTA SOFTWARE ! If you are wondering where this all comes from and why is it free, and where it is going: here is the answer! This software is about Resistance ina babylon world which tries to control and limit the way we communicate and we share informations and knowledge. This software is for all those who cannot afford to have the latest expensive hardware to speak out their words of consciousness and good will. This software has a full range of application for the production and not only the fruition of information, it's a full multimedia studio and has nothing to envy to other proprietary systems, because freedom and share of knowledge are solid principles for evolution and that's where this software comes from. This software is free, Jah Rastafari Livity bless your freedom! You should share this software for the good of yourself and your people, respect others and let them express, be free and let others be free. You are welcome to redistribute dyne:bolic in any way you like, to your friends and neighbours, to anybody who needs. Live long and prosper in Peace. But remember there is no Peace without Justice! The roots of Rasta culture can be found in Resistance to slavery. This software is one step in the struggle for Redemption and Freedom. This software stands up in the fight for digital rights! And Much blessings in Jah luv to all those who still resist. Selah. :: DOCKING RUNS FAST FROM HARDDISK To run dyne:bolic from your harddisk you just need about 600MBytes of free space on one of your partitions, then you put the CD inside while running your usual installed operating system (even winblows) and then you copy the /dyne directory inside your partition (at the root of your harddisk, like in C:\). That's it! now every time you boot from CD it will find the locally stored system and will use that, ejecting the CD as it is not needed anymore - so you'll also have a CD reader that you can use! :: ADVANCED SOUND COMPOSITION AND SYNTHESIS - DYNE:TRAX Dyne:bolic it's the FIRST GNU/Linux distribution including the state of the art in terms of GNU/Linux based free software for musicians: using the professional device support offered by the Advanced Linux Sound Architecture drivers, it includes the low latency daemon JACK-IT to connect together input and outputs of various sound applications, in fact offering a multiple audio rack composed of the great variety of free software available. Take care: that's where free software will beat proprietary systems! Interoperabilty between the many and different applications available in the GNU/Linux world, which instead of competing against each other they cooperate and work perfectly together to give you the widest range of possibilities ever. Spotlights on included multimedia software in this release: - PD in its latest version, complete with jack support and externals (iemlib, zexy and the video openGL GEM) thanks to the support given by the PD-stammtish crews in Graz: big up to IOhannes Zmoelnig, Tomas Musil and Michael Pinter for their help! see http://http://pd.iem.at - SpiralSynthModular is an object orientated music studio with an emphasis on live use. You can use it in a fairly straight forward way to make tracks with, or get very experimental. Audio or control data can be freely passed between the plugins. Data can also be fed back on itself for chaotic effects (all with JACK support!) see http://www.pawfal.org/Software/SSM/ - FreqTweak, ZynAddSubFx and JackRack to take the best out of your midi signals and render them into any possible combination of syntetized sounds.... see http://jackit.sf.net for more informations on how to use the JACK CONNECTION KIT Audio on GNU/Linux is a whole GNU world :) explore it from the great wsebsites and communities on http://www.linux-sound.org Dyne:bolic is also member of the linuxaudio.org consortium, expect more development and great attention on the field in the future of this distribution, which is allready employed by a growing number of musicians around the world. :: FREE ONLINE RADIO STREAMING Dyne:bolic was first born as a tool for network radio streaming, as a slick application for setting up free internet radios. Right now this keeps being a well supported functionality of dyne:bolic, besides all the rest. There is an increasing number of radios employing this software for streaming, among the others radio OndaRossa, radio Lora, radio Muda, radio Cybernet, radio Patapoe ... I'll do my best to keep it a steady and useful tool for that purpose! of course any comment and contribution, bugreport and more generally a collaborative and friendly approach to dyne:bolic features and bugs is very welcome. For more informations about the audio streaming software included inside dyne:bolic see __ _ _ http://muse.dyne.org :: REALTIME VIDEO MANIPULATION - FREEJ During the last period also FreeJ development made a leap forward towards usability, with a new GTK+-2 interface which you can see now in dyne:bolic, that lets you easily load movies, text and png images. This development was supported by the Netherlands Instituut vor Mediakunst / Montevideo Time Based Arts - where i'm currently hosted as an artist in residence. Also the involvement of Silvano "kysucix" Galliani and Christoff "mr.goil" Rudorff in the development has been a significative contribution - thanks to them you can be sure you'll see even more in future. Last but not least Anne-Marie Skriver also contributed with testing and good insights to the video functionalities you find in this version, while she is redacting also a FreeJ tutorial - soon on your screens! Please note the presence of XVidCap (desktop movie capture) software in this dyne:bolic release: now you can easily do movies out of your desktop! record everything you see in mpeg4 and other video formats. You are very welcome to contribute short movies as dyne:bolic demos and tutorials as well! the whole user community will surely benefit from that. for more informations about FreeJ see __ _ _ http://freej.dyne.org :: WHO MADE ALL THIS POSSIBLE ? This CD includes the work of several hundreds of people all around the world developing free software and GNU/Linux applications. without the efforts of this big communities dyne:bolic would have never existed, among the others are rastasoft.org, dyne.org, gnu.org and the Free Software Foundation, kernel.org, xfree86.org and more! I'm jaromil, you can visit my homepage at http://rastasoft.org I'm author and mantainer of dyne:bolic and the other dyne.org software included in it. For this release i received significant contributions from the community forming the dynebolic mailinglist (BIG UP to all of you guys, JAH bless you) with valuable feedback, bugreports, suggestions and documentation. Individual contributions came from Martin Guy for his precise and experienced bug hunting on the previous version, David Santinoli also author of the included video streaming software Palantir, Grzesiek Sedek for his support in setting up Open Mash mbone tools, Andraz Tori for his experience and his speedups to Cinelerra, Andrea Mayr for her precious intuitions. Special thanks also to my Mother and my Father helping me to manufacture by hand dyne:bolic cds which we'll soon make available for online order to anybody wanting to give us some little money for living. My development activity for dyne:bolic 1.2 codename "DYNE:TRAX" has been financially supported by the KUNST bundeskanzleramt of Austria thanks to an artist grant i received (nov 2003 / apr 2004). Important support was also contributed by ESC.mur.at (Graz), PUBLIC Voice Lab (Vienna); thanks also go to medien.KUNSTLABOR (Graz) for the residence and facilities offered as well to the Netherlands Instituut vor Mediakunst/Montevideo Time Based Arts (Amsterdam) where i'm currently artist in residence, leading my research in video streaming and realtime manipulation. Also special thanks to the following hacker communities: Freaknet Medialab in Catania - http://freaknet.org Metro Olografix in Pescara - http://olografix.org ECN/Isole nella Rete - http://www.ecn.org For their moral support, their political activity and solidarity. Greets and best wishes to the squats XM24 (Bologna) and Ashyl (Zurich) for their ospitality, to the Platoniq.net and the Hackitectura crews, to Armin Medosh, Reni & Jogi, Alex "Acme" D'Elia, Rastislav, Simone & Lella, Katha & Jakob & Hannah & Lilo & Paula and.. sorry if i'm not mentioning everybody here, all the kind people that hosted me and helped me to find my way in this babylon world, but i think much about you even if you see me most of the time rushing with my fingers in front of the computer screen. Last but not least, i'd like to send a special salute to Kgabo Sepuru another Rasta Coder from south Africa: his blessing gave me much of the strenght and good will needed to finish this new release. Jah bless Iya disa way. Jah shewn Iya dis creation fe coding en him luv using gnu/linux and contributing fe GPL'ed software and all dem opensource. I luv to create as HIM Jah blessed deh earth, to witness HIM trot this way, conquering de ways of Babylon, Jah guidance and blessings Iya feel. Selah. :: CONTRIBUTE TO DYNE:BOLIC ! IF dyne:bolic can be useful for you, you can also be useful to dyne:bolic! consider the possibility to get involved with development, contribute artwork and ideas, help with debugging and documenting and anything else can come to you in mind. ->>>> NEW BUG REPORT ONLINE INTERFACE: http://bugs.dyne.org ->>>> JOIN OUR MAILINGLIST: mailto:dynebolic-subscribe@dyne.org ->>>> CONTRIBUTE DOCUMENTATION: http://lab.dyne.org/DyneBolic (wiki) Furthermore, please consider that the dyne:bolic project is an indypendent effort relying on support from non-profit, grant-making and business organizations willing to sustain development of free and opensource software like this. Dyne:bolic relies on support from individuals like you to preserve, protect and promote the freedom it gives to its users. If you find dyne:bolic useful, please make a donation today. If you have a job (the author of dyne:bolic doesn't!), please encourage your company to become a patron of the dyne:bolic project. If you redistribute it, please give us some shares on sells: you'll be happy to see the new versions coming out. If you work for a grant-making, cultural or non-governmental organization, please consider the use you can make of dyne:bolic and the help you can give to free and open source software development by supporting it. We hope you understand the importance of all this to keep ongoing our ecosystem of generosity, after all not much is needed to make it exist and even a small contribution thru paypal is good - just imagine that if all users give just 5$ to the author he could be surviving one year developing full time! if you want to be one just click the DONATE button on dynebolic.org Thanks! a thousand flowers will blossom! -- jaromil, dyne.org rasta coder, http://rastasoft.org | | | | | | | | | | | | | | (a) (c) (o) (u) (s) (t) (i) (c) ( ) (s) (p) (a) (c) (e) | | | | | | | | | | | | | | information&comunication channel | for net.broadcasters http://xchange.re-lab.net (Xchange) net.audio network xchange search/webarchive: http://xchange.re-lab.net/a/

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widget.pd_linux segfault
by Tim Blechmann 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

hi all, the recent cvs version of widget segfaults on my machine ... linux, 0.37-1 (release and test3) the segfault occurs in widget, line 1245 ... cheers... Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.de ICQ: 96771783 -- The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!" Jack Kerouac

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netsend over internet again
by Roman Haefeli 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

hi sorry to harm you again with the same question, but to see the [netsend]-help-reference was not the help i needed. Also i know [netclient] and [netserver]. i'd like to build a connection between two computers over the internet. both computers are behind a router. although i know the IP of my router and LAN-IP of my computer, i don't have an idea, what the connection adress of an outside [netsend] is supposed to be to build up a connection to the [netreceive] on my computer. On Sunday, Mar 14, 2004, at 15:45 America/New_York, aym3ric wrote: >make sure you forward the right netsend/receive port to the right local IP Does that mean if i know the right port i only have to specify the routers IP and this port-number in the connecting-message? if yes, how can i find out the "right" port? If somebody has done that yet, could he/she send me an example of the [connect {IP} {port}]-message? have a nice sunday roman

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float definiton
by glouni boulba 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

what about tabread4- and tabread4-? i ve troubles when i fill an array with long samples (more than 30 sec) when i play it i get a decent sound for 30second. after the sound sounds more & more like a bad clocked digital device (that specific bell sound ...) . it is not dependant of the time but of the table : if i put an offset , and start to play say at 10second in the file , the sound get bad immedatly (i mean it's not a vector or vector size problems, sfplay works perfectly...) it seems to be a problem of float definition to feed a tabread , we need a signal with high value so the problem seems to appear when value get bgger when float rounding due to quantification go beyond unity . do you know a way to avoid this ? Marre des Spams ? - http://www.caramailmax.com

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float definition
by glouni boulba 21 Mar '04

21 Mar '04

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Html/texte ?
by guillaume 20 Mar '04

20 Mar '04

Desole pour Html mais je ne sais pas comment faire dans outlouk pour envoyer les mails au format texte.

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