Pd-list March 2004

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Re: New PDP/PiDiP for OSX
by Yves Degoyon 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

hi, oops, seems i forgot to include the quicktime codecs in first release, it's fixed now, so you have to download it again : http://ydegoyon.free.fr/pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz cheers, sevy Yves Degoyon wrote: > hola, > > here is the release of a new packaged version of PDP/PiDiP for OSX, > in binary format, with all the requested library included > ( much more easy to install ) : > > http://ydegoyon.free.fr/pdp_pidip_osx.tar.gz > > for the installation process, read the installations notes : > > http://ydegoyon.free.fr/INSTALL_NOTES.txt > > > it contains some novelties : > > * added a video camera capture object : pdp_ieee1394, > which should be used instead of pdp_v4l on linux. > it has been inspired by pix_videoDarwin, gracias... > > * added streaming capabilities ( ffmpeg ) > but it will only work with this version of ffmpeg : > http://tdegoyon.free.fr/ffmpeg-cvs-2003-03-04.tar.gz > which is a stable version we use. > > i'd like to thank all of those who tried to put pdp to work on OSX > in its earlier versions, now, it will seem like a child's play for them. > > and, a special thx to Eduardo Imasaka, who lent me his gear > for doing this. > ( it has been compiled on a G3 700mhz, darwin 10.3 ) > > enjoy! > sevy > > > > > >

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bug: sorry, couldn't find help patch for "loadbang.pd"
by ClaudiusMaximus 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

Bug: sorry, couldn't find help patch for "loadbang.pd" Problem: There is no help-loadbang.pd in /usr/lib/doc/5.reference Solution: someone who knows exactly how [loadbang] works should make one. What does the inlet in [loadbang] do? I tried banging it and got: error: loadbang: no method for 'bang' ... you might be able to track this down from the Find menu. Is there a doc somewhere about [loadbang] in relation to abstractions and creation order? I just tried to load a patch which has an abstraction with a [loadbang] that is connected to a [send $1] but the [loadbang] obviously banged before the calling patch was built enough to receive it. I'm working on working around this behaviour in the patch concerned, it feels inconvenient even though I can see the logic in the behaviour.

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reading long arrays accurately?
by Eric Skogen 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

hi list, is there a way to use a float to address an array directly with precision greater than 32-bit? very large samples (more than 6 minutes) will sound sample-rate-reduced when read. max/msp has the hi-res objects, is there any way to do this in pd? eric

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Re: custom GEOS
by florian grassl 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

>Subject: [PD] [GEM] Custom GEO's Hello, I am trying to design custom Geo's for use in GEM using the Wings3d project software. Does anybody out there have experience doing this? How should I save the objects, i.e. what format, and then how do I get them into gem for use as geos? http://geocities.com/recursionvideolab/ ----------------------------------- hi, save the geos as .obj (the alias/wavefront maya format) files (they come with a .mtl material file) and use a model loader [model] in GEM. works fine with me. depending on your machienes specs the complexity of the model might be limited. i found some weird scaling issues with wings3d and gem. the workspace in wings3d tends to make fairly small scale objects. anyway you can enlarge them later on in gem. greetings, flo _______________________________________________________________________ ... and the winner is... WEB.DE FreeMail! - Deutschlands beste E-Mail ist zum 39. Mal Testsieger (PC Praxis 03/04) http://f.web.de/?mc=021191

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Re: OS X Tcl/Tk 8.5 - how to install?
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

In general, its best to post such questions to the list, since there are many people who can answer this question. I made installers for both Tcl 8.4 and 8.5, so you don't need 8.5. I am on MacOS X 10.2.8. Here's how I installed Tcl/Tk 8.5: /Library/Frameworks/Tcl.framework /Library/Frameworks/Tk.framework /Applications/Utilities/Wish Shell.app But it is still alpha, so expect bugs. .hc On Saturday, Mar 20, 2004, at 21:53 America/New_York, David Collett wrote: > Hi, Hans. > > I'm a newbie to Pd. I just read about your OS X Installer at: > > http://pure-data.iem.at/Members/hans/installers > > You said that I need to first install Tcl/Tk (version 8.5). > > I downloaded Tcl/Tk. It has 2 items inside (Tcl.framework folder, > Tk.framework folder, and Wish Shell). > > I can't find any documentation about how to install these on my system > (OS X 10.3.3). > > Would you be kind enough to tell me where/how to install everything? > > Thank you very much for your help (and for working on this OS X > installer)! > > David Collett

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[Gem] from image row to table
by Tom Erbe 23 Mar '04

23 Mar '04

hi all - i'm just getting started with gem here, and trying to figure out how to copy a row of pixel data to external r, g & b tables (to connect with an audio process). is the best way to do a pix_dump and extract the data from that? ++++++++ tom erbe . soundhack 608 carla way . la jolla . ca . 92037 http://www.soundhack.com . soundhack(a)san.rr.com aim/ichat: thomaserbe ++++++++

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Re: [PD] flext drugs and rock and roll.....
by chris tyrrell 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

--- Spandex <spandex(a)nildram.co.uk> wrote: > > ct> me again (how tedious)....... > ct> anyway, so the configure-pd-bcc.txt has been > editd > ct> like so: > > Wot u looking to compile? I got BCC workin on > windows and could > compile stuff for you if needed? Also, if you have > something like > Messenger, I'd be happy to spend 15 mins going thru > it online with you > to locate the problem? > > I'm no guru myself.. but I *did* get it working so I > guess that > qualifies me slightly :) > > Regards, > > Matt > well it's nice of you to offer but to a certain extent i dont want to make things too easy for myself....that said i may not have the borland compiler properly setup....is there anything i really should no about the bcc? (other than it's lack of mutithreading)... thanks.... ===== ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html

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flext drugs and rock and roll.....
by chris tyrrell 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

me again (how tedious)....... anyway, so the configure-pd-bcc.txt has been editd like so: # flext - C++ layer for Max/MSP and pd (pure data) externals # Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Thomas Grill (xovo(a)gmx.net) where is PD? PDPATH=C:\pd\ where is BorlandC++? BCCPATH=C:\Borland\BCC55\Bin\bcc32.exe # where is the SndObj include directory? # # where is the STK include directory? # build directory for flext libraries? OUTPATH=.\pd-bcc where should flext libraries be installed? (C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext) INSTDIR=$(PDPATH)\flext and the makefile.pd-bcc looks like this: # flext - C++ layer for Max/MSP and pd (pure data) externals # Copyright (c) 2001-2003 Thomas Grill (xovo(a)gmx.net) # # Makefile for BorlandC++ # # usage: make -f makefile.bcc # # --------------------------------------------- # # note: no threading support for BorlandC++ # # --------------------------------------------- !include config-pd-bcc.txt SOURCE=source NAME=flext TARGET=pdwin # appendix to lib name includes INCPATH=-I$(BCCPATH)\include -I$(PDPATH)\src -I$(SOURCE) !ifdef SNDOBJ INCPATH=$(INCPATH) -I$(SNDOBJ) !endif compiler definitions and flags DEFS=-DFLEXT_SYS=2 CFLAGS=-6 -O2 -OS -ff -tWD # the rest can stay untouched # ---------------------------------------------- # all the source files from the package !include make-files.txt !ifdef SNDOBJ SRCS=$(SRCS) $(SRCS_SNDOBJ) HDRS=$(HDRS) $(HDRS_SNDOBJ) !endif default target all: $(OUTPATH)\$(NAME)-$(TARGET).lib remove build clean: -del /s /q $(OUTPATH) > nul rmdir $(OUTPATH) # ----------------------------------------------- OBJS= $(SRCS:.cpp=.obj) .PATH.obj=$(OUTPATH) DIR="/" {$(SOURCE)}.cpp.obj: bcc32 -c $(CFLAGS) $(DEFS) $(INCPATH) -n$(OUTPATH) $< $(OUTPATH): @if not exist $< mkdir $< $(OUTPATH)\$(NAME)-$(TARGET).lib:: $(OUTPATH) $(OUTPATH)\$(NAME)-$(TARGET).lib:: $(OBJS) @-del "$<" cd $(OUTPATH) tlib "..\$<" +$(**: = +) cd .. !if $d(INSTDIR) && "$(INSTDIR)" != "" @-if not exist $(INSTDIR) mkdir $(INSTDIR) copy $< $(INSTDIR) >nul copy $(SOURCE)\*.h $(INSTDIR) >nul !endif when the batch file build-pd-bcc.bat is double clicked it shows this: --- Building flext with BorlandC++ --- C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext> C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext>make -f makefile.pd-bcc Bad command or file name C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext> which made me think there was no interatction between the borland compiler and the batch file, so i created a new batch file which had this to say: C:\Borland\BCC55\Bin\bcc32.exe C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext>make -f makefile.pd-bcc when i use this the compiler says this: C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext>C:\Borland\BCC55\Bin\bcc32.exe C:\pd\flext-0.4.5- pd-win\flext>make -f makefile.pd-bcc C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext> and spits out a make file which says the following horrible things: Borland C++ 5.5.1 for Win32 Copyright (c) 1993, 2000 Borland Error E2194: Could not find file 'C:\pd\flext-0.4.5-pd-win\flext.cpp' makefile.pd-bcc: Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 1: Unknown preprocessor directive: 'flext' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 2: Unknown preprocessor directive: 'Copyright' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 4: Unknown preprocessor directive: 'Makefile' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 6: Unknown preprocessor directive: 'usage' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 8: Unknown preprocessor directive: '' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 10: Unknown preprocessor directive: 'note' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 12: Unknown preprocessor directive: '' Error E2040 makefile.pd-bcc 14: Declaration terminated incorrectly Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 19: Illegal character '#' (0x23) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 22: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 22: Illegal character '\' (0x5c) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 22: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 22: Illegal character '\' (0x5c) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 22: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 25: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 25: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 34: Unknown preprocessor directive: 'the' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 35: Unknown preprocessor directive: '' Error E2048 makefile.pd-bcc 37: Unknown preprocessor directive: 'all' Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 41: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 41: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 42: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 42: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 46: Illegal character '$' (0x24) Error E2206 makefile.pd-bcc 46: Illegal character '\' (0x5c) Error E2228 makefile.pd-bcc 46: Too many error or warning messages *** 26 errors in Compile *** as it happens if i just put the following text in my batch file: C:\Borland\BCC55\Bin\bcc32.exe -f makefile.pd-bcc all the above metioned text appears in the command line window..... so has anyone got any words of wisdom (i warned you it would be tedious)...... oh well ;-) ===== ___________________________________________________________ Yahoo! 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RE: [PD] pd + midi = glitches [calling all Gurus!]
by Matthew Allen 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

Derek I really wish I could help. Is there any way you could get a seperate midi in/out device by tuesday? If you were anywhere near seattle you could borrow my 8x8! m. -----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin(a)iem.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.at]On Behalf Of derek holzer Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2004 10:34 AM To: Pd List Subject: Re: [PD] pd + midi = glitches [calling all Gurus!] I hate to sound desperate.. ;-) ...but I have to perform with this rig on Tuesday, and these unpredictable MIDI-induced glitches in PD are making me a wee bit nervous. Do any of the gurus-in-residence on this list have any suggestions about this? thx again, d. _________________________________________________ Scanned on 22 Mar 2004 17:09:13 Scanning by http://erado.com

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[GEM] Custom GEO's
by beau 22 Mar '04

22 Mar '04

Hello, I am trying to design custom Geo's for use in GEM using the Wings3d project software. Does anybody out there have experience doing this? How should I save the objects, i.e. what format, and then how do I get them into gem for use as geos? http://geocities.com/recursionvideolab/

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