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pure-data.org rough layout
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 17 May '03

17 May '03

I built upon Winfried's original layout for the website. It definitely needs revisions, but its a start: - About PureData front page with concise explanation of pd - Development how to join the SourceForge project list of current projects/developers - Documentation pd docs Tutorials FAQ Development - Downloads pure-data.sf.net packages pd-gem.sf.net packages links to sites of other externals - Public Relations (need a better name) news announcements blog? - Members - Exchange patches "art" (tracks, GEM pictures, flash-installations) - Search Search the site search PDB

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Re: [PD] what pure-data.org needs to have
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 17 May '03

17 May '03

How about abstractions contributed from the community? (something nicely searchable like PDB) B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans(a)eds.org> Date: Thursday, May 15, 2003 6:48 pm Subject: [PD] what pure-data.org needs to have > > Here's a quick list I just compiled of what all the new pure- > data.org > could have: > > "getting help" > docs > tutorials > FAQ > dev section > howto join SF CVS > various devs and their projects > downloads > pd packages > pd-externals, etc. from SF CVS > other pd packages/externals > forums > the pd-list in forums format could be helpful to people who are > hesitant to subscribe to the list. > blog > a good outlet for related news, events postings, etc. > wiki > site for building local user group pages. > patch exchange > > Now there is definitely some overlap, so I think we need at least > to > have a vague definition of what each section is supposed to do > rather > than just put up everything and the kitchen sink just because we > can. > That would lead to pure-data.org becoming just as fragmented as > the > current layout across many sites. > > Did I miss anything? > > .hc > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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Re: [PD] PD Launcher/External Manager
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 16 May '03

16 May '03

If someone wanted to upload built versions of the stable externals in CVS, as tgz and zip files, for all platforms to a ftp server, then that would be a LOT easier for the tool to do. (download and extract, but then you depend on extraction tools, whats the average size of the externals? (for all platforms?) I'm thinking the double pane idea would work better from a usability standpoint, opinions? B. ----- Original Message ----- From: Marc Lavallée <odradek(a)videotron.ca> Date: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 9:51 am Subject: Re: [PD] PD Launcher/External Manager > David McCallum wrote : > > My Pd launcher's no more than a custom DOS .bat file that let's > > you turn Framestein and ASIO drivers on/off at runtime. > > I use the same technique in Linux with a shell script. > > > And as a windows user I have to ask this, how cross-platform are > > you intending this to be? > > Tcl/Tk. The launcher would list the externals with their descriptions, > and checkboxes would activate them. If an internet source is > provided it > would first download and install the externals. Isn't there a Windows > mechanism to install softwares from the network? > > -- > Marc > > "L'homme n'est pas fait pour travailler, la preuve c'est que cela le > fatigue." (Voltaire) > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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What kind of processing would you call this?
by Chad Wood 16 May '03

16 May '03

Hi, I made a simple little patch that takes an incoming signal, and a scalar. It scales the signal by the scalar and then feeds it to a cos~ with a couple of little manipulations to make the mapping be to the sine function instead of the cosine function. My question is, what is this? It's like waveshaping, but it uses the sine function so you can scale the input signal however much you want, and you always get an output value that is between -1 and 1. One of my profs said that it might be akin to FM, but we didn't talk much about it. Is this a common processing technique? The patch is online at http://www.sphericle.com/pd/sinshap~.pd if anyone wants to look at it. Thanks! Chad

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Re: [PD] Trivia 1: video controls in GEM
by bbogart＠ryerson.ca 16 May '03

16 May '03

Hmmm, as for the "load a folder of video clips" question, Is anyone working on an external for this? I know there is Yves playlist, but what if we want to do something without a GUI, I guess an external that loads the paths of all the files in a folder, and sends them out a list one by one, perhaps with next and prev, so that the path can added after "open" or "read" and used in gem/soundfiler etc.. to switch between clips from a folder... Should not be too difficult, but beyond my own C skill (strings! ick) Yves, please let me know if your external can operate this way, I was under the impression it was GUI... Ben ----- Original Message ----- From: Federico Bonelli <unorosso(a)mac.com> Date: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 7:20 am Subject: [PD] Trivia 1: video controls in GEM > Hallo... > I wouldlike to make a simple installation machine using GEM, as a > start-up project. What I need is to put two clips on screen at the > same > time, chosen randomly into two different folders. THen I wouldlike > to > vary their speed. Now I wonder, how can I vary the speed of a clip > with > GEM? > There is a tutorial/patch you can point to me to learn these basic > video manipulation tech? > PS > I use gem on osX and LINUX, and my target installation will be on > LINUX > thanks > > fredd > > ----------SUb-------- > | www.submultimedia.tv | > > > _______________________________________________ > PD-list mailing list > PD-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list >

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fiddle~~~ which window, and when
by Jie Ma 16 May '03

16 May '03

dear list i'm wondering whether there's any mean to tell which specific window triggers fiddle's frequency output, or when? from my understanding when we play a duration of sound into fiddle, the value of pitch, and the numbers of outputs are affected by the window size we use, the amp, vibrato and re-attack threshold we choose etc. so i don't know among all those windows of fiddle, which specific window trigger fiddle to generate a pitch output. and it'd be really great if there's a way to tell when's the output triggering. because sometimes the 2nd harmonic is much stronger or attacks much faster than the fundamental one, which creates error in detection. i think it's nice to know when the output is triggered so we could track the waveform and explain where the error is from, and therefore adjusting threshold to eliminate the error. any hints would be really grateful as this issue is critically important to me. thanks beforehand. regards J

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what pure-data.org needs to have
by Hans-Christoph Steiner 16 May '03

16 May '03

Here's a quick list I just compiled of what all the new pure-data.org could have: "getting help" docs tutorials FAQ dev section howto join SF CVS various devs and their projects downloads pd packages pd-externals, etc. from SF CVS other pd packages/externals forums the pd-list in forums format could be helpful to people who are hesitant to subscribe to the list. blog a good outlet for related news, events postings, etc. wiki site for building local user group pages. patch exchange Now there is definitely some overlap, so I think we need at least to have a vague definition of what each section is supposed to do rather than just put up everything and the kitchen sink just because we can. That would lead to pure-data.org becoming just as fragmented as the current layout across many sites. Did I miss anything? .hc

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WIN mp3 - PLEASE!!!
by Hardy Finn 16 May '03

16 May '03

I think i am cursed! Max's mp3 support was weak, so i thought id look at PD on Windows for a project im doing. I want to use xsample~ package with mp3s but I don't know how to get mp3s into buffers on this platform either! A work around, such as loading via a windows readanysf~ and playing that into an array would be fine, but I can only find li/unix versions of this type of solution. Any recommendations apart for use in Windows? hx Hardy Finn - MSc Information Systems Suite 603, Level 6, 83 York Street SYDNEY NSW 2000

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OSC and net objects
by Andrey Savitsky 16 May '03

16 May '03

Hello all. Could you explain to me in a few words where is the difference between using of OSC protocol and netreceive-netsend pd objects? thanks in advance/ andrey

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bug? no loadbang on pd message object instantiation
by David McCallum 16 May '03

16 May '03

It seems that when you use an >obj 0 0 abstraction| Pd message, the abstraction's loadbangs don't work. I can't imagine that this is a feature. I've attached an example. Load up loadybangy.pd and follow the brief instructions. David . . Please note that my e-mail address is changing. . Either use this address, or check my website for the most recent. . . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/ .

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