Pd-list May 2003

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question about cyclone
by brandon schakola 23 May '03

23 May '03

hello all, i have a bit of a newbie question concerning the cyclone library. i can't quite seem to get pd to recognize it using a batch file. i'm running windows me and pd 36. i've checked the site to see if i downloaded the wrong stuff, but am incredibly confused. i'm not at all used to compiling code, and wouldn't even know where to begin. the folders all appear to be uncompiled, and some or most have a pd.linux extension. does this mean that the lib is only for linux? i'm confused. does anyone have .dll's already compiled for this somewhere? thanks in advance. brandon.

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debian packages
by Paul Brossier 23 May '03

23 May '03

hi all. i made a first set of jmax packages for debian available on the web. jmax 4.0.2-1 A visual environment for interactive music a jmax-client 4.0.2-1 Clients for jMax jmax-common 4.0.2-1 jMax FTS kernel jmax-dev 4.0.2-1 Headers files for jMax jmax-doc 4.0.2-1 Documentation for jMax jmax-jack 4.0.2-1 Jack Audio Connection Kit support for jMax jmax-java 4.0.2-1 Java client for jMax MIRROR : you can access the repository with adding those lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list # jmax test packages deb http://piem.homeip.net/~piem/debian binary/ # deb-src http://piem.homeip.net/~piem/debian source/ it is a quite slow connection, so be patient. it should soon be hosted on the brand new http://mentors.debian.org/ website. you can also download directly the packages using http://piem.homeip.net/~piem/debian/binary/ NOTES : these are test packages and a good bunch of bugs need to be fixed. most important, fix the dependencies. it should be something like Depends : j2sdk > 1.4 | j2re > 1.4, alsa-modules > 0.9.3, jackd, ... the 4.0.2-0 release is compiled with the java sun sdk (j2sdk_1.4.1_01) and libstdc++2.9-glibc.2.1. you will need them to have jmax working properly. the 4.0.2-1 works with the latest sun rpm release (j2sdk 1.4.1_02) and an up to date debian unstable. but, the new libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 in testing/unstable is partly not compatible with this java sdk (see output of 'ldd libfontmanager.so'), so you will still need the stable libstdc++2.9-glibc.2.1, available from the debian website. i am looking forward to read your feedback. cheers, paul.

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Re: [PD] Newbie OSX MIDI question
by Alex 23 May '03

23 May '03

Hi Miyazaki, The '-midiindev' and '-midioutdev' are called flags, you put on the same line on your terminal when you start PD. But I understand that you use the 'PD.command' file coming from the Adam' s installer. This file open the terminal and start pd for you. If you want to use flag you have two solutions: -first one: forget that file and familiarise yourself with the terminal. you can start pd in typing: [Shintaro-Miyazakis-Computer:~] miyazaki% /usr/local/pd/bin/pd I know Adam' s installer put the PD directory under local (it could be somewhere else!) then you can add flags on the same line like: [Shintaro-Miyazakis-Computer:~] miyazaki% /usr/local/pd/bin/pd -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 -midioutdev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6 -and_so_on -the second solution is to add the flags in the .pdrc file (a flag per line). pd reads the .pdrc file on start up: > reading startup file: /Users/miyazaki/.pdrc On osx this is a invisible file so to access it you must use your terminal and the command 'pico' which open the file like a text editor: [Shintaro-Miyazakis-Computer:~] miyazaki% pico /Users/miyazaki/.pdrc then you can edit the file. Additionally instead of typing the whole path to pd (/usr/local/pd/bin/pd). you can create a file called .tcshrc that your terminal will read on start up (you have to specify that on your terminal preferences). In this you will create an alias to pd like that: alias pd '/usr/local/pd/bin/pd' According that PD is under /local Then you can type 'pd' in your terminal to start it up like this: [Shintaro-Miyazakis-Computer:~] miyazaki% pd Having said so, I have noticed that you are using PD as a non-root user. That may become difficult to install externals, to run PD in -rt. (realtime) and also to have rights on some files. I advice you to start the PD installation by creating you a root account. I strongly advice you to buy the book "MAC OSX the Missing Manual" (O' Reilly). It covers the basic command line of Unix. This helped me a lot. Also have another read of the PD documentation, it is a bit hard at the beginning but it becomes clearer after a few other reads. Good Luck. Alex > On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 08:33 pm, Shintaro Miyazaki wrote: > Hi alex > > thank you for helping me out.. > I tried what you said but, nothing happend. > I mean what is supposed to be to happen? > I wrote as you can see here midiindev blablabalbalba.. > in the Terminal. > > Last login: Thu May 22 20:25:54 on ttyp1 > /Users/miyazaki/Desktop/Pd.command; exit > Welcome to Darwin! > [Shintaro-Miyazakis-Computer:~] miyazaki% > /Users/miyazaki/Desktop/Pd.command; exit > reading startup file: /Users/miyazaki/.pdrc > could not open midi input device number 1: Invalid device ID. > using default input device number: 0 > using default output device number: 1 > nchan 2, flags 3, bufs 8, framesperbuf 256 > -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 > > put msg > put 1 msg 0 1 > put msg > put 1 msg 0 1 > put msg > - mididev 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 > -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 > invalid command name "0" > > and then I tried if something happens if I play around my keyboard. In > the testtonepatch. > nothing happend, maybe I am handling the terminal in a wrong way. Do I > have to type something other in before typing midiindev bla bla bla? > > > cheers > miyazaki s > > <testtone.pd> > > > > > Am Donnerstag, 22.05.03, um 09:12 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Alex: > >> if your MIDI device is correctly installed and your keyboard plugged >> into it. >> You may have to tried some other configurations. >> Mine is -midiindev 0 -midioutdev 5 >> To find it I did: >> -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and then I went down until finding the >> right port number like this: >> -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 >> -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 >> and so one. (same with midiout) >> >> It may not be a clever way to do it but that is how I did. >> >> Hope this helps. >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 02:36 am, Shintaro Miyazaki wrote: >> >>> pd -midiindev 1 -midioutdev 2

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bug? Pd-message abstraction creation doesn't start the audio within the abstraction
by David McCallum 23 May '03

23 May '03

Okay, another bug using the Pd messages to create objects. If you place an abstraction within a patch using a >obj x y abstraction| message, the audio for the abstraction doesn't actually function until you connect two tilde objects within the abstraction; only then does it magically come to life. Thoughts? . . Please note that my e-mail address is changing. . Either use this address, or check my website for the most recent. . . Music wants to be free . http://mentalfloss.ca/sintheta/ .

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Newbie OSX MIDI question no2..
by Shintaro Miyazaki 23 May '03

23 May '03

Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: > Von: Shintaro Miyazaki <shintaro.miyazaki(a)stud.unibas.ch> > Datum: Do, 22. Mai 2003 21:33:57 Europe/Zurich > An: Alex <alex(a)idoia.com> > Betreff: Re: [PD] Newbie OSX MIDI question > > Hi alex > > thank you for helping me out.. > I tried what you said but, nothing happend. > I mean what is supposed to be to happen? > I wrote as you can see here midiindev blablabalbalba.. > in the Terminal. > > Last login: Thu May 22 20:25:54 on ttyp1 > /Users/miyazaki/Desktop/Pd.command; exit > Welcome to Darwin! > [Shintaro-Miyazakis-Computer:~] miyazaki% > /Users/miyazaki/Desktop/Pd.command; exit > reading startup file: /Users/miyazaki/.pdrc > could not open midi input device number 1: Invalid device ID. > using default input device number: 0 > using default output device number: 1 > nchan 2, flags 3, bufs 8, framesperbuf 256 > -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 > > put msg > put 1 msg 0 1 > put msg > put 1 msg 0 1 > put msg > - mididev 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9 > -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 > invalid command name "0" > > and then I tried if something happens if I play around my keyboard. In > the testtonepatch. > nothing happend, maybe I am handling the terminal in a wrong way. Do I > have to type something other in before typing midiindev bla bla bla? > > > cheers > miyazaki s > > > > > > > Am Donnerstag, 22.05.03, um 09:12 Uhr (Europe/Zurich) schrieb Alex: > >> if your MIDI device is correctly installed and your keyboard plugged >> into it. >> You may have to tried some other configurations. >> Mine is -midiindev 0 -midioutdev 5 >> To find it I did: >> -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 and then I went down until finding the >> right port number like this: >> -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8 >> -midiindev 0,1,2,3,4,5,6,7 >> and so one. (same with midiout) >> >> It may not be a clever way to do it but that is how I did. >> >> Hope this helps. >> Alex >> >> >> >> On Thursday, May 22, 2003, at 02:36 am, Shintaro Miyazaki wrote: >> >>> pd -midiindev 1 -midioutdev 2

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Theory and Techniques of Electronic Music
by Alex 23 May '03

23 May '03

Hi Miller, is there any downloadable version of the online book ? Thanks.

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midi keyboard
by Tim Blechmann 22 May '03

22 May '03

Hi, i consider buying a midi keyboard. does anyone have experiences with an edirol pcr or a midiman radium? they both have an usb interface, will they work under linux? thanks... Tim mailto:TimBlechmann@gmx.net ICQ: 96771783 http://www.nyds-exp-discogs.tk -- The only people for me are the mad ones, the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk, mad to be saved, desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn, like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes "Awww!" Jack Kerouac

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copy info between arrays
by enrike＠ixi-software.net 22 May '03

22 May '03

hi, i have a path with several arrays where i record sounds in from the adc object. I want to duplicate or copy the info from one array to any other within my patch. how can i do this? i guess its possible but i cannot find the way. thanks

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Announce - PD Party in Montreal
by Michal Seta 22 May '03

22 May '03

We're pleased to announce a PD party&Jam! This party is open to all PD users and potential PD converts and basically anyone who doesn't mind hanging out with artistic nerds. Anyone can bring a computer or a working PD patch to jam along. There will be instruments available for jam as well. This is a totally improvised party so we don't know what to expect but there should be GEM installation/presentation, Mathieu is bringing some GridFlow action and there should be an abundance of abstract loops fed with a microtonal/prepared guitar. And we expect Hans-Christoph Steiner as our special guest from abroad! BYOB, of course! We'd appreciate if anyone who's planning on using PD in the party let us know what you do and what you can bring. We suggest that those who will be playing, showing, manipulating computers (or other electronics) show up at around 6-7 PM to set up. Everyone else is invited for 8 - 9 PM. The Unofficial PD-Montreal party/meeting/jam will officially begin at around 9:30-10PM We hope to see lots of you. below is a text version of address. Attached, you will find a flyer and a map. Friday, May 23rd, 2003 420, Saint-Dizier Suite 200 Montreal -- _ __ __ (_)___ Michal Seta / \/ \ _/^ _| / V |_ \ @creazone.32k.org (___/V\___|_|___/ http://www.[creazone]|[noonereceiving].32k.org

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knob
by Matthew Nish-Lapidus 22 May '03

22 May '03

hi, is there a version of knob that will work on osx? also, has anybody else experienced random crashes with GEM 0.87 and PD 0.37 on osx? /* matt nish-lapidus www.punchcardmedia.com www.ekran.org */

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