Pd-list July 2002

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RE: [PD] Roadmap Question
by mark 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

That doesn't seem to be in the Windows zip file - any chance you could send me a copy. cheers mark -----Original Message----- From: g|nter geiger [mailto:geiger@xdv.org] Sent: 26 July 2002 14:27 To: mark Cc: 'pd-list' Subject: Re: [PD] Roadmap Question src/notes.txt has some information about whats going on Guenter On Fri, 26 Jul 2002, mark wrote: > Hi Miller, > > just out of interest really - do you any kind of roadmap of where PD > is going - ie. what features you are aiming for in future etc. > > cheers > > mark > > _________________________________________ > junklight - dark experimental electronics http://www.junklight.com > > >

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Roadmap Question
by mark 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

Hi Miller, just out of interest really - do you any kind of roadmap of where PD is going - ie. what features you are aiming for in future etc. cheers mark _________________________________________ junklight - dark experimental electronics http://www.junklight.com

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Re: /55\auv-i warning (fwd)
by Ben Bogart - FMPM/F1999 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

This message stems from auvi (A group that has developed a series of MAX objects based on NATO) about how the delt with a particular licencing situation. sorry Miller, I could not resist: Hope it might be worth the laugh. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:32:42 +0200 From: artclay <artclay(a)netsurfer.ch> To: 55(a)bek.no Subject: Re: /55\auv-i warning auvi you are still max dependent. is it not nice that they are just letting you use there software without even issuung those idoitic question you have posed since your little objects have been put up? you are not on the top of the food chain you just a couple of worms in the miller pucketts intestines arrt "auv-i.de" wrote: > > John DeKron: this should have been private, > but unfortunetly, _you chose to make it a public issue. > > > So why does auvi then put it like this: > > > > "I have looked at your standalone + thought about what kind of arrangement > > we could make. Unfortunetly, I do not think it is possible to give you > > permission to use the Auvi objects in a commercial product. > > > > Auvi will be releasing a product that would be aiming for a similar market > > (it is not something Max-based). So it does not make sense for Auvi to > > promote a product like your standalone at this time." > > This means: DeKron indicated he wishes to sell Auvi-ness to production > houses, which does not fit with some of Auvi's future plans. > > If Auvi ever intended to release a VJ app, it would have happened long ago. > > > After some days where you had put it like this: > > > > "We will need to work out an arrangement for a commercial license, > > before you are permitted to release a commercial Auvi standalone. > > > > If we are able to do this - Auvi would be happy to support/encourage/promote > > your application to insure its massive success." > > That was written before Auvi saw your standalone. > > > You are well aware that you do not touch the point of my posting and you are > > well aware why. > > John DeKron: I am sorry, but the truth is: > Your application is not much more than 10 Auvi help files cut-n-pasted > together. > You even left the help file text for 242.sympathy in your interface. > > You are flattering yourself if you think anything in your application is > even the least bit useful or interesting to Auvi. > > What is the problem? Auvi simply didn't like your application. > Why not just move on? > > It's unfortunate that some people feel the best way to deal with rejection > is by kicking and screaming and throwing things. > > http://auv-i.de From 55-admin(a)bek.no Fri Jul 26 06:58:46 2002 Received: from fe1 (fe1.ryerson.ca [141.117.101.22]) by hopper.ryerson.ca (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g6QAwkq04498 for <@hopper.ryerson.ca:bbogart@ryerson.ca>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:58:46 -0400 Received: from plot.bek.no (plot.bek.no [158.37.56.10]) by fe1.ryerson.ca (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0GZU003J3RV56C(a)fe1.ryerson.ca> for bbogart(a)ryerson.ca (ORCPT bbogart(a)acs.ryerson.ca); Fri, 26 Jul 2002 06:59:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: from plot.bek.no (IDENT:mail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by plot.bek.no (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA02136; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:35:52 +0200 Received: from hotmail.com (f46.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.19.46]) by plot.bek.no (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id NAA02120 for <55(a)bek.no>; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 13:35:50 +0200 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 03:54:51 -0700 Received: from 213.22.29.109 by lw12fd.law12.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:54:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 10:54:51 +0000 From: =?UNKNOWN?Q?Gertr=FAdis?= Callosidad <gertrudiscallosidad(a)hotmail.com> Subject: Re: /55\power of now X-Originating-IP: [213.22.29.109] Sender: 55-admin(a)bek.no To: 55(a)bek.no Errors-to: 55-admin(a)bek.no Reply-to: 55(a)bek.no Message-id: <F46JNKG36OKXZgkGCY30001cf46(a)hotmail.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; format=flowed Precedence: bulk X-BeenThere: 55(a)bek.no X-Mailman-Version: 2.0beta2 List-Id: <55.bek.no> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 26 Jul 2002 10:54:51.0376 (UTC) FILETIME=[DDF92F00:01C23492] > >> > memories >> >>http://webpages.charter.net/jspeyrer/tolle.htm > >a lot of text for a short time > world will allways welcome lovers > >maybe nn is feeling 'old pain' >but joshua isn't >but maybe nn is acting to feel old pain world will allways welcome lovers >or nn is doing it the Eckhart Tolle's way >and joshua is doing the Arthur Janov's way world will allways welcome lovers _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: [PD-announce] pd 0.35 released (linux, windows, mac)
by tigital 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

>HI all, > >I've put Pd 0.35-0 (finally) on the usual, > >http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html > >I'll try to maintain this release and develop 0.36 simultaneously. > >I don't have it compiled for Irix yet (I think a few people are still using >that...) > >cheers >Miller > Congrats! ...ya might wanna put a direct link on the page above for the "pd-0.35-0.mac.tar.gz", or if anyone d/l's it, just click through the "directory listing of all downloadable files." and find the above mentioned archive... tanx! jamie

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Re: [PD-announce] pd 0.35 released (linux, windows, mac)
by Josh Steiner 26 Jul '02

26 Jul '02

woo!!! thanks miller! so... when is .36final due out? =P On Thu, 25 Jul 2002, Miller Puckette wrote: > HI all, > > I've put Pd 0.35-0 (finally) on the usual, > > http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html > > I'll try to maintain this release and develop 0.36 simultaneously. > > I don't have it compiled for Irix yet (I think a few people are still using > that...) > > cheers > Miller > > _______________________________________________ > PD-announce mailing list > PD-announce(a)iem.kug.ac.at > http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-announce > ___________________________________________________________ Josh .. Yoshi .. Joschi .. http://eds.org/~joschi/vitriolix

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comparing pd on win2000 vs XP
by Mark Khemma 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

Hello, Could anyone tell me which is more stable? pd on win2000 or pd on WinXP -thanks mark .K

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avarage frequency
by Andre Schmidt 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

hi, i'm still working (now and then) on my random-drummer and i'm getting along quite well. the base idea works awesome with xgroove~ and i can even load samples with different bpm and they will be "speeded" to the main tempo (took a while before i noticed that i loaded not only 44100hz samples :) but my new feature is a little tricky (atleast for me)... i wan't to analyze all the (16) slices that i've set in the audio sample to get the avarage frequency for all the slices... that way i could set in the sequencer for every step an individial frequency range that is allowed to play on that step... i tried to analyze with [dfreq~]-[snapshot~]-[avarage] but depending on the update frequency (for++) i get different results... but i'm pretty sure that this is NOT the way doing this, so any help would be appriciated !!! thnx -andre ps. sorry, i newer learned fft :(

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jack
by smoerk 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

hello, does pd support jack (jackit.sf.net)? IIRC there was a patch, which added jack support for an older pd version.

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Re: [PD] getting an external to work!!!!
by J. Scott Hildebrand 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

ok your two lines of code work, but they just give me the file.pd_linux. how do i get the .pd file out of it so i can actually use my external? and do i need to place my files in any certain pd directory? thanks, scott On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Bryan Jurish wrote: > > argh! > > sorry, i sent my last mail last night at 2am, and just realized > it won't work that way -- maybe Andrew's example Makefile > solved your problem, but i just realized that my gcc command > line wasn't entirely kosher -- its argument should really be the > '.o' file and not the '.c' file, so: > > bash$ gcc -c -o myfile.o myfile.c > bash$ gcc -shared -export_dynamic -o myfile.pd_linux myfile.o > > ... the additional flags and the 'strip' in Andrew's Makefile > are probably also a good idea. > > have you had a look at Johannes' pd-external-HOWTO? i've found > it very useful: http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd/externals-HOWTO > > marmosets, > Bryan > > On 23 July 2002 at 17:27:39, J. Scott Hildebrand wrote: > > > > then what do i do? i can get the executable file from the object file, > > but from then on i don't know what to do to create the library or .pd > > file. thanks, > > > > scott > > > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2002, Bryan Jurish wrote: > [snip] > > > > > > bash$ gcc -Wall -o myextern.pd_linux myextern.o > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- "640K ought to be enough for anybody." -- Bill Gates, 1981 --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Instatiating
by Ivan 25 Jul '02

25 Jul '02

hi list! this is a kind of a naive question but how do I get and abstraction to be instatiated with a string as an argument. I max you usually use the #1, #2, and so forth but obviously if tried that and it didn't work... Could you please share some light on this regarding PD?? thanks Ivan -- ---------------------------------------------------- Ivan Almeida Soares Franco ivan.franco(a)ydreams.com YDreams SA www.ydreams.com (imagine a world with no sound or color...) www.iua.upf.es/~ifranco ----------------------------------------------------

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