Pd-list January 2002

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29 Jan '02

Ha ha - good question. I thought I'd post this to list as well 'cos I've been on a bit or a learning curve myself the past couple of days writing these two objects and I could have done with these links: First of all read: http://www.music.mcgill.ca/~theo/html/audio/audio.htm http://iem.kug.ac.at/pd/externals-HOWTO/ and the Max/Msp externals manual from the SDK - available from Cycling74 (free download). Then your next best bet is the source code - the PD source is full of objects that are pretty clear and use most of the features. The last resort if that don't help is this list I guess - Miller has been very helpful answering my questions. The best way to build is to copy a makefile - use mine and open it in VC6 - open workspace, change the file selector to all files and open the makefile - you can build it in VC6 but you have to edit it as a file rather than using the VC6 environment. You can still add files etc. though. I got my makefile by editing the PD one. Jump right in though -I built both these objects today and only spent yesterday afternoon learning stuff - its not as hard as it might seem at first. Although PD externs are built in C they are built using a very object oriented approach. anymore questions give us a shout cheers mark > -----Original Message----- > From: joge . [mailto:gboy@nycap.rr.com] > Sent: 29 January 2002 17:55 > To: mark(a)junklight.com > Subject: Re: [PD] New Externs > > > hi , > > i saw your post on the pd list and thought you might know > where i can find > some information about how to compile externals on a windows > machine for pd > . i have knowledge of programming, though i am not that > familiar with pds > "externals" architecture . i have read that externals for pd > is similar as > those for max/msp, however i dont have a mac . > > thanks . > > joge . > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark" <mark(a)junklight.com> > To: <pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at> > Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:30 PM > Subject: [PD] New Externs > > > > I have been making some objects that I wanted and thought I would > > make them available. You can get the library here - there > is a readme > > inside. I will put a proper webpage up for it very soon. > > > > www.junklight.com/january02/pd/mjLib.zip > > > > There are currently two objects: > > > > pin~ - randomly delivers the input signal to either the > right or left > > outlet with a given probability > > metroplus - allows complex timing bangs to be delivered > > > > It should compile under linux with minimal work (just > #ifdef'ing includes > I > > reckon) > > but I haven't got a linux box with a build environment on it to hand > > right now. > > > > More objects comming soon. > > > > cheers > > > > mark > > > > > > >

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New Externs
by mark 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

I have been making some objects that I wanted and thought I would make them available. You can get the library here - there is a readme inside. I will put a proper webpage up for it very soon. www.junklight.com/january02/pd/mjLib.zip There are currently two objects: pin~ - randomly delivers the input signal to either the right or left outlet with a given probability metroplus - allows complex timing bangs to be delivered It should compile under linux with minimal work (just #ifdef'ing includes I reckon) but I haven't got a linux box with a build environment on it to hand right now. More objects comming soon. cheers mark

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How do I write a batch file?
by Rob Canning 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

Hi list, How do I write a batch file to start pd? At the moment I go to properties of a ms-dos prompt shortcut - then to the program tab - I write in the command line where it says 'batch file:' but I can only write a short command line. I've tried writing a .txt file with the command line in it and putting a path to that where it says 'batch file:' Maybe I'm getting the format of the command line wrong in the text file I write: "c:\pd\bin\pd.exe -inchannels 4 -outchannels 4 -soundindev ,3 -soundoutdev 2,3" ? I'm using windows 98 Thanks for your help getting printing I now use http://www.pstill.com/ to convert the .ps files to .pdf files which i can print from adobe acrobat reader. Thanks Rob ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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templates...
by Nicolas Lhommet 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

Hello, A question about templates : In a 'data-field window' of my patch, I need two types of elements : - fixed elements, just created with simple templates and no variable, and classic object boxes (I can have to redraw them occasionally). - scalars, some objets created with 'append' from the same template (polygons that can be moved with the mouse to change some values) I know I can send a 'clear' message to the data window to clear it's content. But I'd like to clear the scalars only, and keep the fixed elements. (I noticed it's easy to do the opposite: clear the content of every template, and keep the scalars) For a kind of gui-patch, I need to reorganize my scalars, so to clear them and append them again, but I don't want to clear everything in the data-window and 'redraw' everything. Is it possible (I mean with Pd-0.34) ? Does Pd-0.35 handle this kind of thing better ? Thank you, and apologies for my previous post, I was just amazed and happy to discover all the new features in the last test-release. :) nicolas

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RE: [PD] [CALL FOR ACTION] about worms and virusses
by mark 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

I appreciate your point - however I cannot open the worm within outlook because I have scripting turned off - I would explicitly need to save the email to disk and open it there. Like I say I use outlook because it is the corporate standard. You CAN lock down outlook so it will not run ANY outlook script worms past present and future (by not allowing it to use script or active content). The only other option of course is to remove all outlook users from the mailing list - a little draconian in my opinion. mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Norbert Math [mailto:math@iem.kug.ac.at] > Sent: 29 January 2002 12:44 > To: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Subject: RE: [PD] [CALL FOR ACTION] about worms and virusses > > > > hello, > > as you have noticed, the myparty worm made its way to the pd > mailing list despite the virus scanner i have installed - > the virus was sent out before i got the new virus identification > from sophos. > > because obviously the idetifications are released after > a worm spreads in the wild a virus scanner can not offer > much security when new species are coming out. > > therefore i kindly ask you to a less exploitable program > then outlook - if you use outlook your security updates may still > come too late as it was the case with my mail scanner ... > > norbert > > > On Tue, 29 Jan 2002, mark wrote: > > > > > > > TO ALL PPL. USING OUTLUCK : > > > > > > switch to another email client. use netscape, > > > eudora or whatever. but dont use outluck. > > > damn, is it really so hard to do that ?? > > > > For a lot of people it is a corporate standard and > > they HAVE to use it. That said if you apply the > > latest patches from microsoft (choose "windows > > update" in internet explorer - it doesn't send > > info to microsoft so do it even if you have a > > pirate copy) then you won't have any of > > these issues - it blocks access to attachments > > and scripts so you have to make a real effort > > to open them. > > > > cheers > > > > mark > > > > > > >

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gem resolution?
by christof huemer 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

what is the maximum resolution i can do in gem?

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[CALL FOR ACTION] about worms and virusses
by Christian Klippel 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

ATTENTION ! RANT FOLLOWS ! hi all, these outluck worms become annoying. TO ALL PPL. USING OUTLUCK : switch to another email client. use netscape, eudora or whatever. but dont use outluck. damn, is it really so hard to do that ?? what ?? your calendar ?? if you really need a calendar in your mail app (sigh!) try to use a external program for that. use a mail app for _mail only_, do your other stuff elsewhere. or use a different mailer at least for all mailing lists. do you try to fly with your car ?? no ?? why you want to use a mail app for other things then sending mail ?? you dont do ?? then dont use outluck....... what the hell you think are the benefits of using outluck ?? that all other people soon can read all your mails, data, contacts, whatever ?? today i got 17 of these "my party" worms, and i really wonder if this is in your interrest, my dear outluck users. its up to you now to react, either use a different mail app or learn how to use outluck securely. if that is possible, after all. as soon as one of these bitches hits one of my mailing lists again, all ms outluck users will be blocked from them. sorry, but now that was one hit too much, angry, chris (sorry for that, but im really pissed off of these outluck users. cant accept outluck use any longer. there no single reason to use it. so dont use it.) -- visit me: http://mamalala.de - jmax audio related http://video.mamalala.de - jmax video related irc.openprojects.net - channel #jmax

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new photos from my party!
by xx＠xx 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

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Quick question
by mark 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

When you are defining an object what is the CLASS_MAINSIGNALIN function for?? cheers mark

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midiInOpen driver problem
by christof huemer 28 Jan '02

28 Jan '02

i´m using win2000 and the tascam us-428 as a sound device (= midi controller). it is no problem to use or play any midi instruments on the system. when i run pd the following message appears: midiInOpen: there is no midi driver installed on your system. any clues??? so it is not possible to control gem objects via the controller or any sounds of pd.

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Pd-list January 2002