Pd-list January 2002

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RE: [PD] Dev question
by mark 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Thats spot on cheers. I've updated the metro plus object in my libray so that it also works just like a metro object as well if it gets a float. http://www.junklight.com/january02/pd/mjLib.zip You can see Krzysztof's code in action in metroplus.c.. cheers mark > -----Original Message----- > From: krzYszcz(a)suita.chopin.edu.pl > [mailto:krzYszcz@suita.chopin.edu.pl]On Behalf Of Krzysztof Czaja > Sent: 30 January 2002 13:38 > To: Orm Finnendahl > Cc: pd-list(a)iem.kug.ac.at > Subject: Re: [PD] Dev question > > > hi Orm, > > append (and prepend) has only one inlet, and I do not know about join. > But anyway having other than leftmost inlet to accept various messages > is not that difficult. To give you a clue how this may be done, here > is an excerpt from my `spying' code: > > static void *spy_new(...) > { > t_spy *x = (t_spy *)pd_new(spy_class); > t_spy *x1 = (t_spy *)pd_new(s2y_class); /* proxy for 2nd > inlet messages */ > ... (there are more...) > > /* here goes something like: x->x_shadow = x1 */ > inlet_new(&x->x_ob, &x1->x_ob.ob_pd, 0, 0); /* create > 2nd inlet */ > ... > } > > static void spy_free(t_spy *x) > { > ... > /* here goes something like: x1 = x->x_shadow */ > pd_free(&x1->x_ob.ob_pd); /* this has to be done > explicitly */ > ... > } > > void spy_setup(void) > { > ... > spy_class = class_new(gensym("spy"), (t_newmethod)spy_new, > (t_method)spy_free, sizeof(t_spy), 0, ..., 0); > ... > s2y_class = class_new(gensym("spy (second inlet)"), 0, 0, > sizeof(t_spy), /* this may need to be > changed */ > CLASS_PD | CLASS_NOINLET, 0); > ... > class_addmethod(spy_class, ... > ... > class_addmethod(s2y_class, ... > ... > } > > Krzysztof > > Orm Finnendahl wrote: > ... > > I would like to know, how to implement the proxy, your're > > mentioning. I had the same problem, trying to mimik the list objects > > from Max/MSP like join and append. There is a way around that, like >

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Re: [PD] Dev question
by Orm Finnendahl 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Hi Miller, Am Dienstag, den 29. Januar 2002 um 14:46:26 Uhr (-0800) schrieb Miller Puckette: > Oh, so perhaps all you have to do is make the inlet take "list". "float" > is automatically converted to "list" if necessary anyway. Maybe it's as > easy as that...? Not really, as this whole list-ops thing is mainly intended for message constructing and passing. I would like to be able to use a list as something, which doesn't get evaluated by the list object (like a quoted list in lisp) and just append, join and prepend ("cons") in a very rudimentary form. I would be happy, if both inlets could take A_ANYTHING and the different objects would take care of the rest. The prepend object already exists, but you can't change the argument at runtime. In a way, I have some difficulty with the fact, that in pd the distinction of lists and anything else is implemented by defining that lists start with floats and use the message "list" as an implied quote operator (and not "quote"). So I guess, the "pd-ish" solution would be, to have a general object, (called list-ops or similar) which takes messages like "append blah foo bang" and appends this to any list, which gets sent to its inlet. Other messages could be "prepend foo bar", "sublis 2 3" (or "sublis 2" for the rest of the list), "nth 2", etc. Does anybody have any other ideas for additional functionality? Yours, Orm

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Dev question
by mark 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Hi, I am just building one or two objects I have been wishing for and I have a quick question. Is it possible to set up an inlet (not the left most one though) to accept both a float and a list so that I can do one thing if I get one or another if I get the other? how would I declare this? cheers mark

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midi write bad file desciptor
by ppagano＠bellsouth.net 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Dear Folks sorry if any of you got the crappy virus... when clicking a patch that has midi out midi write bad file desciptor i get this message over and over again. what does this mean?

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Pd 0.35 test 7 for linux and MS windows
by Miller Puckette 30 Jan '02

30 Jan '02

Hi all, http://crca.ucsd.edu/~msp/software.html now offers Pd version 0.35 test 7... Bug fixes, plus, for Linux, the "feature" that, if an audio or MIDI device is opened for reading and writing, Pd opens it a single time, hopefully making it work better with certain drivers. cheers Miller

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RE: [PD] [CALL FOR ACTION] about worms and virusses
by mark 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

> > TO ALL PPL. USING OUTLUCK : > > switch to another email client. use netscape, > eudora or whatever. but dont use outluck. > damn, is it really so hard to do that ?? For a lot of people it is a corporate standard and they HAVE to use it. That said if you apply the latest patches from microsoft (choose "windows update" in internet explorer - it doesn't send info to microsoft so do it even if you have a pirate copy) then you won't have any of these issues - it blocks access to attachments and scripts so you have to make a real effort to open them. cheers mark

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[Framestein][announce] version 0.27 is out
by Juha Vehviläinen 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

Hi all, Fs version 0.27 runs Adobe Photoshop Filter Plugins. There are thousands of filters available on the net. Some might require Plugin.dll from Photoshop while others won't. changelog: 0.27 - runs Adobe Photoshop Filter Plugins - hide/show messed fs.frame positions - vsnap~, wrapper for vsnapshot~ Have fun! Juha http://framestein.org

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A new version of RTMix is available (v.0.16)
by Ivica Bukvic 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

A new version of RTMix has been released today in order to fix several gargantuan bugs which rendered the whole app (v.0.15) useless. Apologies to all who wasted their time trying to hopelessly figure out the broken app. :( v.0.16 is available for immediate download at http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/ RTMix msg board/FAQ can be found at: http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/cgi-bin/ico/yabb/YaBB.cgi (now the site has the low-bandwidth version so it should not be a problem for the people with slow connections) Fixes include: 1) Parser now WORKS and has been tested thoroughly 2) Error checking is now vastly improved 3) When user put "&" at the end of their [do] parameter in the event, it caused the program to fail to execute the syscall, due to fact that "&" was hardwired and automatically added by the app, resulting in a <syscall> &&, which then opened-up a sub-shell that did not understand any subsequent commands resulting in errors like this one: sh: -c: line 1: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `"' Now the app detects whether you have a "&" or not and adds them appropriately. 4) Most of the "WhatsThis" docs have been added and extended making the documentation more complete Enjoy! Ivica Ico Bukvic, composer, multimedia sculptor, programmer, webmaster & computer consultant http://meowing.ccm.uc.edu/~ico/ ico(a)fuse.net ============================ "To be is to do" - Socrates "To do is to be" - Sartre "Do be do be do" - Sinatra "I am" - God

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more pd/gem windows 98 pd.dll crashing
by mick grierson 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

Not sure whats causing this, but lop~ and hip~ are sometimes generating the 'PD caused an exception 10H in module PD.DLL'. error, just like the other day with the FFT's. It must just be some objects causing PD to bomb whilst Gem is loaded. I don't think that the FFT objects themselves are to blame, cause some of the FFT test patches work fine. PVOC and similar wont function however. Crash occurs when DSP is switched on. Anyone else got these problems ? Cheers Mick P.S. Loving it.

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[announce] sonogram~/phasogram~
by Yves Degoyon 29 Jan '02

29 Jan '02

hi, i've published sonogram~ v0.3, new features are : * display of the phasogram * edition [cut and paste ] of the phasogram * envelop filtering added this release is for pd < 0-35test4, sorry, i haven't seen any stable release since this one. if you ever want to use it with test5|6|7, you 'll have to change these : te_xpos ---> te_xpix te_ypos ---> te_ypix in sonogram~.c. Enjoy !!! Yves/ http://ydegoyon.free.fr

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