Pd-list October 1998

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Re: Still Need help starting GEM on Win 95
by Miller Puckette 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Another piece of advice: If you run Pd using the "run command" thing and if it fails to start up, the DOS window it runs in disapears before you can read the error message. The better way is to start up a DOS window from the menu and type the Pd command into it. That way the window sticks around and you can read the error message... Miller

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RE: Pd and Win 95
by Guenter Geiger 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

You should be able to do a few oscillators with the machine, so sampling et. al. should work. (My estimation is at least 20 oscillators). The easiest fix will probably be to increase the audiobuffer size (hope this works on W95). Switching to Linux is always a good idea, but that is my personal and very subjective view :). (But be warned audio setup will be lot harder for Linux, especially for notebooks) The difference between W95 and NT is not known to me .. Guenter ---------- From: Junger Joerg[SMTP:Joerg.Junger@swisslife.ch] Sent: Thursday, October 15, 1998 3:30 AM To: 'pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at' Subject: Pd and Win 95 Hi list, I was able to start Pd on my notebook (P5 133 MMX/32MB) on which Win 95 OSR 2 is installed. The built-in soundcard is a ESS 1878, additionally I have a Emu 8710 PC-card soundcard, that is more or less a different package for a AWE 32. Pd does not work with internal soundcard, only with the Emu, but the performance is bad. As soon as I move the cursor around, the sound is getting interupted. When I switch of the input, things are getting a little bit better. So, my question is, would a switch to Linux improve the situation or is the machine underpowered anyway? Or would upgrading system memory and a switch to Windows NT be better?. Thanks in advance for all help/comments etc. Joerg -------------------------------------------------- -- Jörg Junger -- Rentenanstalt/Swiss Life -- Information Systems Research, CH/IFUE -- PO Box -- CH-8022 Zürich, Switzerland -- phone: +41-1-711-5667 -- email: Joerg.Junger(a)swisslife.ch --------------------------------------------------

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Re: Pd and Win 95
by Miller Puckette 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

In my experience Pd works much better in NT than in W95, and I bet it works better in Linux as well. If you want to stay with W95, though, you can specify a larger audio buffer to reduce the glitches (and make it respond more sluggishly to input!) try pd -audiobuf 200 for instance. cheers Miller

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RE: Still Need help starting GEM on Win 95
by Mark Danks 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

> -----Original Message----- > From: Stephen J. Parise [mailto:step808@earthlink.net] > Subject: Still Need help starting GEM on Win 95 > > When using the command: > pd -lib /pd/gem/Gem > > I get the error message: Cannot find the file 'pd' (or > one of its <snip> As you guessed, this means that Windows can't find the pd executable. You can either use the full path (as below), or add the pd/bin directory to your path (this is more difficult under Win95 than under WinNT). > > The command: > \pd\bin\pd -lib \pd\gem\Gem > > Causes the PD MSDOS window will appear for one second and close. > My guess is that the slashes are the problem. Try doing: \pd\bin\pd -lib /pd/gem/Gem All arguments for the -lib flag have to have '/' slashes. I suppose that someday Miller or I will fix this, but it isn't a high priority. > Will Virtual Memory or Graphics Acceleration effect GEM > in any way. I > would rather not change those settings because the mess up my > MIDI/Digital Audio Sequencer- Logic Audio. > Thanks to everyone who is trying to help. No. In fact, GEM is pretty useless without graphics acceleration (must be OpenGL though). In WinNT, you can't turn off virtual memory (or at least I haven't found a way). Virtual memory only causes problems on the Macintosh, due to the memory model that they use. Later, Mark ---------------------------------------- -- Mark Danks -- mdanks(a)stormfront.com -- http://www.danks.org/mark ----------------------------------------

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RE: Getting MIDI to work with PD
by Guenter Geiger 15 Oct '98

15 Oct '98

Actually, I have never tried PD with more than one MIDI interface .... Probably there is a problem with the Roland MPU, because with Soundblaster it is known to work. Have you tried it with Soundblaster only, or switching the two devices, so the Soundblaster is on the first and the Roland MPU on the second MIDI device ? Guenter ---------- From: Soeren Bovbjerg[SMTP:bovbjerg@musik.auc.dk] Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 3:23 AM To: pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at Subject: Getting MIDI to work with PD Hi, I am having a problem getting PD (linux) to work with MIDI (both in anf out). I have a MPU-401 card and a Sound Blaster 16, which are both compiled into the kernel - and works fine. My setup is: midi00=Roland MPU-401 midi01=Sound Blaster 16 MPU-401 Both these interfaces work fine when typing e.g. playmidi midifile.mid -e -D0 (or -D1) and they are both detected by PD when it runs, but when running the testfile 'Start.here.pd' (or any other file with MIDI objects) nothing happens. DSP works fine though. What can I do? Soeren Bovbjerg

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Still Need help starting GEM on Win 95
by Stephen J. Parise 14 Oct '98

14 Oct '98

When using the command: pd -lib /pd/gem/Gem I get the error message: Cannot find the file 'pd' (or one of its components). Make sure the path and file name are correct and that all required libraries are available. The command: \pd\bin\pd -lib \pd\gem\Gem Causes the PD MSDOS window will appear for one second and close. Will Virtual Memory or Graphics Acceleration effect GEM in any way. I would rather not change those settings because the mess up my MIDI/Digital Audio Sequencer- Logic Audio. Thanks to everyone who is trying to help. -- Stephen Stephen J. Parise step808(a)earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~step808/

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Re: Getting MIDI to work with PD
by Soeren Bovbjerg 14 Oct '98

14 Oct '98

I have tried to recompile the kernel with Soundblaster only - i still won't work. I must have made an error somewhere... I think I will reinstall Linux (well it only takes about half an hour).... Or upgrade the kernel. Is PD correctly installed ?? I unpack the source make -f makefile.linux make -f makefile.linux install ...and type pd Soeren -----Original Message----- From: Guenter Geiger <guenter.geiger(a)psp-vie.be.philips.com> To: pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at <pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at>; 'Soeren Bovbjerg' <bovbjerg(a)musik.auc.dk> Date: Wednesday, October 14, 1998 5:34 PM Subject: RE: Getting MIDI to work with PD >Actually, I have never tried PD with more than one MIDI interface .... >Probably there is a problem with the Roland MPU, because with Soundblaster it is known to work. >Have you tried it with Soundblaster only, or switching the two devices, so the Soundblaster is on the first and >the Roland MPU on the second MIDI device ? > >Guenter >

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Getting MIDI to work with PD
by Soeren Bovbjerg 14 Oct '98

14 Oct '98

Hi, I am having a problem getting PD (linux) to work with MIDI (both in anf out). I have a MPU-401 card and a Sound Blaster 16, which are both compiled into the kernel - and works fine. My setup is: midi00=Roland MPU-401 midi01=Sound Blaster 16 MPU-401 Both these interfaces work fine when typing e.g. playmidi midifile.mid -e -D0 (or -D1) and they are both detected by PD when it runs, but when running the testfile 'Start.here.pd' (or any other file with MIDI objects) nothing happens. DSP works fine though. What can I do? Soeren Bovbjerg

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Pd 0.23 patch 2
by Miller Puckette 13 Oct '98

13 Oct '98

Hi all, I've written a "qlist" object for Pd, which I incorporated in a "patch 2" release on http://man104nfs.ucsd.edu/~mpuckett/software.html. Unless you really want a sequencer (I did!) you don't need to download the patch. There's a "qlist.pd" help file in "3.reference" in the documentation. enjoy MIller

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RE: Need help starting GEM on Win 95
by Mark Danks 12 Oct '98

12 Oct '98

Yes, this is the problem. As mentioned on the GEM website (but unfortuanetly not in the FAQ...I'll fix this), you have to type Gem (with the upper case). For an obscure reason lost in history, the entrance point to GEM is a function called Gem_setup...and that is the function name that PD searches for. In the next release, I'll probably put some hooks in so that you can type GEM, or gem, or gEm, or whatever. GEM shouldn't be sensitive to where pd.exe is actually located, but it must be able to find the .dll. I avoid this problem by making sure that pd.exe is my path environment. Also, for people who are concerned about the speed of their computer, if you get a Voodoo2 graphics accelerator, GEM works great with it. Please let me know if you are having any other problems. Later, Mark ---------------------------------------- -- Mark Danks -- mdanks(a)stormfront.com -- http://www.danks.org/mark ---------------------------------------- > -----Original Message----- > From: Soeren Bovbjerg [mailto:bovbjerg@musik.auc.dk] > Sent: Sunday, October 11, 1998 12:20 PM > To: pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at > Subject: Sv: Need help starting GEM on Win 95 > > > Hi, > > I have just startet using PD and GEM, but I also also had the > same problem - and solved it. It seems, that the PD > commandline parameters are case sensitive (!!!!) In my case > it works fine if I type: > > pd -lib /pd/gem/Gem > > (with an uppercase G) > > Remember to put both the 'pd' and 'pd/gem' directories in your path! > > However, GEM also seems to be sensitive to where PD is > located. I could not start GEM when I installed PD in a > subdirectory (e.g. c:\music\pd\ with gem in c:\music\pd\gem\) > but that doesn't seem to be your problem.

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