Pd-list October 1998

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Re: rpm of pd.23-4
by Charles Baker 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

Guenter (et al), Tried the rpm on my Linux RedHat 5.1 /OSS system...it will not install... the error - a failed dependancy on libtcl/tk 8.0.. is strange, because I know I have them...SO.. it's gotta be the path to the lib in the rpm? I really don't know how file system layout vary between Linux distributions. Whatever,the src compiled ok, but when I try to send MIDI , it dies, without report.. All audio seems fine. I will investigate...could it be ny new window manger (kde) somehow? pd finds /dev/midi ok.. I compiled pd with the standard linux driver code (s_linux.c), not the ALSA driver. What ever, sometime soon I will compile -g and step into pd & see what I see. charlieb

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RE: ANNOUNCMENT pd-0.23-4 and gem-0.77-1
by Guenter Geiger 20 Oct '98

20 Oct '98

Oops ... didn´t mention that this is for Linux only G.

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ANNOUNCMENT pd-0.23-4 and gem-0.77-1
by Guenter Geiger 19 Oct '98

19 Oct '98

Hi there ! I have uploaded to new versions of Pd and Gem to the IEM <ftp://iem.mhsg.ac.at/pd> Additionally these versions can be found on every Debian server and will release together with Debian 2.1, scheduled for late November but more likely to be released somewhere in December (At least in this regard Debian has similarities to other famous OS's :P). See <http://www.debian.org> I made an rpm package of pd and I would appreciate it , if someone would test it. (GLIBC version !!!) What's new ? - pd now comes with the bonk external and (again) fixed MIDI code, which was broken in version 0.23-3. - Gem includes all the nice additional features of 0.77, except I couldn't find the time to test them. What's missing ? - pd comes without fiddle, because of (again :() .... licensing problems. But I'm planning to make a seperate fiddle package. anyhow fiddle is easily compilable as external (See makefile.linux in the external directory) - a Gem rpm package. I just can't do it on my Debian system. Guenter

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Pd and Win 95
by Junger Joerg 19 Oct '98

19 Oct '98

Hi list, I was able to start Pd on my notebook (P5 133 MMX/32MB) on which Win 95 OSR 2 is installed. The built-in soundcard is a ESS 1878, additionally I have a Emu 8710 PC-card soundcard, that is more or less a different package for a AWE 32. Pd does not work with internal soundcard, only with the Emu, but the performance is bad. As soon as I move the cursor around, the sound is getting interupted. When I switch of the input, things are getting a little bit better. So, my question is, would a switch to Linux improve the situation or is the machine underpowered anyway? Or would upgrading system memory and a switch to Windows NT be better?. Thanks in advance for all help/comments etc. Joerg -------------------------------------------------- -- Jörg Junger -- Rentenanstalt/Swiss Life -- Information Systems Research, CH/IFUE -- PO Box -- CH-8022 Zürich, Switzerland -- phone: +41-1-711-5667 -- email: Joerg.Junger(a)swisslife.ch --------------------------------------------------

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gemtablet, gemmouse
by klaus voltmer 18 Oct '98

18 Oct '98

hi. the gemtablet and gemmouse objekts are not working at all on my o2. ?? later klaus

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RE: sorry
by Guenter Geiger 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

To: pd-list-request(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at Subject: unsubscribe Guenter ---------- From: Hans Tutschku[SMTP:Hans.Tutschku@ircam.fr] Sent: Friday, October 16, 1998 2:22 AM To: pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at Subject: sorry I lost the message how to unsubscribe - any hint? Thanks, Hans

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R: Pd and Win 95
by Alessandro Fogar 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

I did have success sending data from a Win95 application over a network connection to PD running under NT. So I think that you should have no problems about connecting PD and Max. In the worst case you could develop an external for Max... Bye Alessandro Fogar -----Messaggio originale----- Da: Miller Puckette <mpuckett(a)man104nfs.UCSD.EDU> A: Charles Baker <baker(a)charlieb.com>; pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at <pd-list(a)iem.mhsg.ac.at> Data: venerdÃ¬ 16 ottobre 1998 8.15 Oggetto: Re: Pd and Win 95 >> ... pd on my intel box >and MSP on my powerPC. Assuming they are ethernet connected, is there *any* >possibility for >message, if not data sharing ? Of course, there's always MIDI, and analog >audio. > >Well, I'd love to see someone in the Opcode Max world get netsend and >netreceive running in Max... that would get messages back and forth, but not >audio. There are also "w" and "wc" objects in Opcode Max which I've never >tried but which might be compatible with netsend and netreceive already, >although I don't know. > >cheers >Miller >

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Re: Pd and Win 95: further experiments
by Miller Puckette 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

> Strangely, specifiying a audiobuffer worstened things in my case. I tried settings from 0.05 to 1024 but as a result with both soundcards this yielded in series of clicks/drop outs. Sorry, I forgot to mentionthat I fixed a bad bug in the "audiobufer" flag handing... I think it was broken in 0.23; download 0.23 "patch 2" from http://man104nfs.ucsd.edu/~mpuckett and try again; the results should be better. -Miller

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Pd and Win 95: further experiments
by Junger Joerg 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

Hi list, last nigth I spend some hours trying out different parameter settings. I achived some results by specifiying an audiorate. By doing so I was able to use the built-in soundcard. I tried settings of 44100, 22050 and 11025. The lower the number, the more robust against drop outs is the system. these dropouts are caused by moving the cursor. When I use the osc~ example there is still a noticable tremolo, but no sharp clicks. Specifiying audiorate also helps for the performance of the Emu soundcard. Strangely, specifiying a audiobuffer worstened things in my case. I tried settings from 0.05 to 1024 but as a result with both soundcards this yielded in series of clicks/drop outs. My guess is that the problems are due to the shitty multitasking model of Win 95 (besides using a slow machine which is, of course, my fault ;)). Ok, I guess I will explore the depth of Linux, given that there is support for the built in soundcard. For the Emu soundcard, there is no Linux support as far as I know. Any recommendations for specific kernel versions etc? Cheers Joerg -------------------------------------------------- -- Jörg Junger -- Rentenanstalt/Swiss Life -- Information Systems Research, CH/IFUE -- PO Box -- CH-8022 Zürich, Switzerland -- phone: +41-1-711-5667 -- email: Joerg.Junger(a)swisslife.ch --------------------------------------------------

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Re: Pd and Win 95
by Miller Puckette 16 Oct '98

16 Oct '98

> ... pd on my intel box and MSP on my powerPC. Assuming they are ethernet connected, is there *any* possibility for message, if not data sharing ? Of course, there's always MIDI, and analog audio. Well, I'd love to see someone in the Opcode Max world get netsend and netreceive running in Max... that would get messages back and forth, but not audio. There are also "w" and "wc" objects in Opcode Max which I've never tried but which might be compatible with netsend and netreceive already, although I don't know. cheers Miller

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