- On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please
let me know if it isn't working for you:
Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other gibberish.
I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested.
Ico
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you:
Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other gibberish.
Following the way wikipedia works, I believe it is the least work to
delete the spam as it happens. There have been a number of
discussions about this, check the archives.
I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested.
Please post this to the list. It would be good to have that
discussion here.
.hc
Ico
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¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you:
Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other gibberish.
I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested.
Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Anti-spam_features
.hc
Ico
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If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of
exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an
idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps
it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into
the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess
himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson
- On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote :
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you:
Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other gibberish.
I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested.
Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice:
I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the above page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a page or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content is not affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able to keep out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day.
Ico
On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote :
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back!
Please let me know if it isn't working for you:Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of
spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and
other gibberish.I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested.
Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice:
I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the above page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a page or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content is
not affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able to
keep out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day.
That one sounds rational. How long have you been using it? I am
sure that many anti-spam techniques will reduce spam in the short
run. The trick is to make sure that the spammers don't then shift to
some other kind of spamming which is more work to manage, like
creating accounts.
.hc
Ico
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If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of
exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an
idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps
it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into
the possession of everyone, and the receiver cannot dispossess
himself of it. - Thomas Jefferson
- On 2008-07-15 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote :
On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote :
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back!
Please let me know if it isn't working for you:Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of
spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and
other gibberish.I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop me a private mail if you're interested.
Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice:
I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the above page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a page or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content is not affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able to keep out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day.
That one sounds rational. How long have you been using it?
Since august last year, and fortunately not a single spam or vandalism since. We also run the 'SpamBlacklist' plugin, but this one was not able to keep out the spam on its own.
I am sure that many anti-spam techniques will reduce spam in the short run. The trick is to make sure that the spammers don't then shift to some other kind of spamming which is more work to manage, like creating accounts.
Indeed. Our wiki used to be configured to only allow edits from logged in people, and all the vandalism was done through logged-in accounts. This why having a captcha for creating accounts might help as well.
I see in the pdpedia 'recent changes' page that most of the spam is confined to two or three pages only, but it still messes up the history overview and makes it unreadable because of the tens of edits per day.
Another question on the wiki: as a PD newcomer, one of the things I'm looking for is a more or less 'formal' description for each module's parameters, inputs and outputs. Most of the help pages have a short description and some example of a modules usage, but there does not seem to be a single structural way to describe each module. Would it be an idea to define some templates and examples for this purpose and ask the users of the wiki to use this to describe modules ?
Ico
On Jul 15, 2008, at 2:04 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On 2008-07-15 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote :
On Jul 13, 2008, at 2:36 PM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On 2008-07-11 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org wrote :
On Jul 11, 2008, at 4:05 AM, Ico Doornekamp wrote:
- On July 11th, Hans-Christoph Steiner Wrote
After a little holiday due to an OS upgrade, pdpedia is back! Please let me know if it isn't working for you:
Works fine, although the wiki seems to be under the attack of spammers already: a lot of pages have been replaced with links, spam and other gibberish.
I know some of the tricks how to avoid this in mediawiki, drop
me a private mail if you're interested.Here's some of wikipedia/mediawiki's advice:
I recommend the ConfirmEdit plugin (which is also listed on the
above page) using only the 'addurl' and 'createaccount' triggers. This requires the user to fill out a captha when adding new links to a
page or when creating a new account, while editing of regular content
is not affected. On a mediawiki page I administer this plugin was able
to keep out the >200 spam edits which were performed every day.That one sounds rational. How long have you been using it?
Since august last year, and fortunately not a single spam or vandalism since. We also run the 'SpamBlacklist' plugin, but this one was not
able to keep out the spam on its own.I am sure that many anti-spam techniques will reduce spam in the
short run. The trick is to make sure that the spammers don't then shift to some other kind of spamming which is more work to manage, like creating accounts.Indeed. Our wiki used to be configured to only allow edits from logged in people, and all the vandalism was done through logged-in accounts. This why having a captcha for creating accounts might help as well.
I see in the pdpedia 'recent changes' page that most of the spam is confined to two or three pages only, but it still messes up the
history overview and makes it unreadable because of the tens of edits per day.
Previously, it was really easy to delete all of the spams, so they
weren't in the history anymore. But it seems my 'delete' tab has
disappeared. Can anyone else delete the spam, or perhaps something
has changed in the mediawiki config since the OS upgrade fiasco.
Another question on the wiki: as a PD newcomer, one of the things I'm looking for is a more or less 'formal' description for each module's parameters, inputs and outputs. Most of the help pages have a short description and some example of a modules usage, but there does not
seem to be a single structural way to describe each module. Would it be an idea to define some templates and examples for this purpose and ask
the users of the wiki to use this to describe modules ?
Yes, that's definitely what we are trying to do with pdpedia. If you
want to take the lead on that, please do!
.hc
Ico
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