London Pure Data patching circle. -- -- Link up with other Pd-ers in meatspace to swap techniques.
Tuesday 4th May 7pm - 10pm A10Lab Area 10 Project Space Peckham Hill Street SE15 5JT
Buses 12, 36, 37, 63, 78, 436, 345, 177, 312, 343 Train: Peckham Rye Station
Free and Open to all!
Feel free to list topics you'd like to go through, cool things you want to share, etc.
If you could email ryan-jordan{at}hotmail{dot}co{dot}uk so I know who's coming.
http://puredata.info/community/LondonPatchingCircle http://a10lab.info/
Forward to whoever you think may be interested.
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Ryan Jordan wrote:
http://puredata.info/community/LondonPatchingCircle http://a10lab.info/
do you have summaries of past meetings somewhere ?
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not that i know of. i've only ever been to one meeting which was January 2009. http://puredata.info/community/DeckSpace
if anyone knows of more, and/or wants to help organise, etc then please do.
i just thought i'd try and get something going.
r
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Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 18:30:05 -0400 From: matju@artengine.ca To: ryan-jordan@hotmail.co.uk CC: pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] London Patching Circle - Tuesday 4th May
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010, Ryan Jordan wrote:
http://puredata.info/community/LondonPatchingCircle http://a10lab.info/
do you have summaries of past meetings somewhere ?
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hi there,
i'd like to have log-files of complete pd sessions - ideally with a time stamp - so that i can kind of rerun the whole process of patch creation. i can get pd with the debugging option to output all actions, but i unfortunately do not know how to store (and timestamp) all that.
i'm on a win xp machine and tried some dos piping (>) but apparently it did not do the job. i also could not get cygwin to work for me. any smart solutions like sending to some other app or something?
thanks a bunch! Xstal
On PD you can use the -verbose and - debug <level> options, for instance:
$ pd -verbose -d 2 If you start pd like that you be nlown away, it outputs everything, from loading, to each object creation and even mouse movement (scary), try o use diferent debug levels. If you use debug level = 1 you get different things, and so on... actually I never found that info detailed anywhere - and I guess it makes a good question to post here in the list..!
I'm running in Linux (ubuntu 9.10 rt), but It should be transparent, as far as logging in Windows you can redirect the output of a program in cmd to a file, using *>> file.txt.
It should work. Best of luck, Pedro
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Gil More trovatron@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
hi there,
i'd like to have log-files of complete pd sessions - ideally with a time stamp - so that i can kind of rerun the whole process of patch creation. i can get pd with the debugging option to output all actions, but i unfortunately do not know how to store (and timestamp) all that.
i'm on a win xp machine and tried some dos piping (>) but apparently it did not do the job. i also could not get cygwin to work for me. any smart solutions like sending to some other app or something?
thanks a bunch! Xstal
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On 2010-04-29 14:32, Pedro Lopes wrote:
On PD you can use the -verbose and - debug <level> options, for instance:
$ pd -verbose -d 2
"-d 1" means core->gui traffic "-d 2" means gui->core traffic
"-d 3" means both
but this doesn't give you time stamps. i experimented a bit with using tcpdump, but when replying, timing is usually horrible (haven't found time to dig deeper into this)
the problem with all this is, that Pd uses pointer2string conversion for naming windows, objects and whatelse on the gui side. these names will eventually change with every re-run, so you cannot really use whatever you log.
mfgasdr IOhannes
Gil More wrote:
hi there,
i'd like to have log-files of complete pd sessions - ideally with a time stamp - so that i can kind of rerun the whole process of patch creation. i can get pd with the debugging option to output all actions, but i unfortunately do not know how to store (and timestamp) all that.
Pd doesn't support this directly, but maybe you could stick a proxy in between pd and pd-gui to capture/replay sessions.
Something like peerdata (formerly known as multipd) might work:
http://svn.umlaeute.mur.at/svnroot/zmoelnig/projects/peerdata/
(But I've just seen IOhannes' reply saying there will probably be problems even if you get logging working.)
Other than that, maybe use recordmydesktop to get a video file, not the same thing I know...
Claude
i'm on a win xp machine and tried some dos piping (>) but apparently it did not do the job. i also could not get cygwin to work for me. any smart solutions like sending to some other app or something?
thanks a bunch! Xstal
2010/4/29 Claude Heiland-Allen claudiusmaximus@goto10.org
Gil More wrote:
hi there,
i'd like to have log-files of complete pd sessions - ideally with a time stamp - so that i can kind of rerun the whole process of patch creation. i can get pd with the debugging option to output all actions, but i unfortunately do not know how to store (and timestamp) all that.
Pd doesn't support this directly, but maybe you could stick a proxy in between pd and pd-gui to capture/replay sessions.
Something like peerdata (formerly known as multipd) might work:
http://svn.umlaeute.mur.at/svnroot/zmoelnig/projects/peerdata/
Yes. You give me a great idea! I will save some "log" from "pd -verbose -d 2" on a text file and load it with topd [1], with a time break between every command. So, topd will recreate the patch, command by command. I'll keep you informed.
Cheers.
[1] http://github.com/automata/topd
On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Gil More wrote:
i'd like to have log-files of complete pd sessions - ideally with a time stamp - so that i can kind of rerun the whole process of patch creation. i can get pd with the debugging option to output all actions, but i unfortunately do not know how to store (and timestamp) all that.
You can edit the pd.tk file for that. Just use NotePad. Find «proc pd» and duplicate the «puts» so that it also writes to «$::gilmore». Then outside of a proc, add something like
set gilmore [open {c:\documents and settings\gil\whatever\log.txt} w]
or anything like it : basically, you do an open in mode «w» and you assign it to the variable that the «puts» will use.
the file will be closed automatically when you close pd. (but if you have to force-quit, then some kilobytes may be missing at the end)
i'm on a win xp machine and tried some dos piping (>) but apparently it did not do the job.
I swear it works on Linux and OSX... unless you are writing to an external drive and pull the cable while writing ;)
i also could not get cygwin to work for me. any smart solutions like sending to some other app or something?
pd.tk is a very good place to customise lots of different things.
sending to another app, if you needed to do that, is almost the same as writing to a file. If you can't get plain redirection to work (< >
) then piping isn't any easier (|), so, you'd have to use the [socket]
command in Tcl, which is like using the [open] command in Tcl.
(Tcl is the programming language for pd.tk).
(in pd 43, pd.tk is not the same, it was replaced by many small files, and many procs were renamed, so, you'd have to do things in a slightly different way, but it's still Tcl).
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On Thu, 29 Apr 2010, Ryan Jordan wrote:
not that i know of. i've only ever been to one meeting which was January 2009. http://puredata.info/community/DeckSpace if anyone knows of more, and/or wants to help organise, etc then please do. i just thought i'd try and get something going.
Ah, sounds like the club was left alone by the original organisers and you try continuing it ? can't you get any info from the previous organisers about what has been going on ?
In any case, congrats for taking the initiative of continuing a club. I know from past experience, that it's rare that someone does so.
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