Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX
with Pd and GEM.
This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with lights.
Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ?
Thanx.
++
Jack
Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial cameras costing thousands of dollars.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ? Thanx. ++
Jack
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yeah, just make sure it is uncompressed fw to avoid latency.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com wrote:
Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial cameras costing thousands of dollars.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ? Thanx. ++
Jack
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Thanks Jaime, i start to understand.
What is the length of FireWire cable for a Mac with FireWire 800 port
can i use ?
++
Jack
Le 5 mars 09 à 19:04, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
yeah, just make sure it is uncompressed fw to avoid latency.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com
wrote: Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial
cameras costing thousands of dollars.On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote: Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with
lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ? Thanx. ++Jack
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mmh, I don't really know about lengths. I think there is a limit to how long your firewire cable should be. I usually work with analog cameras in linux where cables can be long ad I capture with a pci card. I think a cheap option that I've seen working well with macs is the unibrain fire-i: http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm
you can buy lenses and chain them, not more than 30fps though,
J
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
Thanks Jaime, i start to understand.What is the length of FireWire cable for a Mac with FireWire 800 port can i use ? ++
Jack
Le 5 mars 09 à 19:04, Jaime Oliver a écrit :
yeah, just make sure it is uncompressed fw to avoid latency.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com wrote:
Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial cameras costing thousands of dollars.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ? Thanx. ++
Jack
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858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA
Latency is mostly affected by the device driver for any source. Even some of the professional capture boards have relatively high latency, but typically Firewire or USB based devices will have much higher processing time in the driver than an uncompressed PCIe card.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Jaime Oliver jaime.oliver2@gmail.comwrote:
yeah, just make sure it is uncompressed fw to avoid latency.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 9:54 AM, chris clepper cgclepper@gmail.com wrote:
Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial cameras costing thousands of dollars.
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote:
Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ? Thanx. ++
Jack
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858 202 1522 9168 Regents Rd. Apt. G La Jolla, CA 92037 USA
Thanks for your answer Chris. Do you know a specific model working with Pd and GEM on MacOSX ? ++
Jack
Le 5 mars 09 à 18:54, chris clepper a écrit :
Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial
cameras costing thousands of dollars.On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote: Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with
lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ? Thanx. ++Jack
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Sony Handycams are pretty good but you need to make sure that you can
mount it on a tripod and charge it at the same time. I have had a lot
of problems using some models of them, as the quality is excellent,
they work with firewire but some models will only allow a firewire
cable to be hooked up to it when it is in its charging dock. Make sure
you avoid that...
Conor
On 5 Mar 2009, at 18:05, Jack wrote:
Thanks for your answer Chris. Do you know a specific model working with Pd and GEM on MacOSX ? ++
Jack
Le 5 mars 09 à 18:54, chris clepper a écrit :
Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial
cameras costing thousands of dollars.On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote: Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with
lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial camera ?) ? Thanx. ++Jack
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Thanx for the reply. The models are too big for me. I need a smaller
camera (something like a cube) because the installation must be
discreet. Have you something else to suggest ?
Chris : what do you think about Sony driver ? I can't use a PCI card
because i will work with a macmini.
++
Jack
Le 5 mars 09 à 19:13, Conor Higgins a écrit :
Sony Handycams are pretty good but you need to make sure that you
can mount it on a tripod and charge it at the same time. I have had
a lot of problems using some models of them, as the quality is
excellent, they work with firewire but some models will only allow
a firewire cable to be hooked up to it when it is in its charging
dock. Make sure you avoid that...Conor
On 5 Mar 2009, at 18:05, Jack wrote:
Thanks for your answer Chris. Do you know a specific model working with Pd and GEM on MacOSX ? ++
Jack
Le 5 mars 09 à 18:54, chris clepper a écrit :
Even the cheapest consumer DV camera will outperform industrial
cameras costing thousands of dollars.On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Jack jack@rybn.org wrote: Hello list,
I'm looking for a good camera (FireWire or USB) working on MacOSX with Pd and GEM. This camera will be used to track people in a closed space with
lights. Do you know a good model for this application (industrial
camera ?) ? Thanx. ++Jack
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hey all,
Jaime Oliver schrieb:
mmh, I don't really know about lengths. I think there is a limit to how long your firewire cable should be. I usually work with analog cameras in linux where cables can be long ad I capture with a pci card.
I think a cheap option that I've seen working well with macs is the unibrain fire-i: http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm
you can buy lenses and chain them, not more than 30fps though,
J
lengths between firewire 400 devices is usually 4.5m, but you can daisy chain them up to 16 times giving you 72 metres. it's not very recommendable to make long chains, as every plug may be a "weak point" in your chain. firewire 800 can have longer cables, but i don't know...
Jack schrieb:
Thanx for the reply. The models are too big for me. I need a smaller camera (something like a cube) because the installation must be discreet. Have you something else to suggest ? Chris : what do you think about Sony driver ? I can't use a PCI card because i will work with a macmini. ++
as manufacturer of small firewire cameras there's also "point grey". I don't know exactly about cost, and didn't try them on my own but they often were recommended by people doing tracking, also being said they were affordable, especially the "firefly mv" which delivers 60fps@640x480 and even higher frame rates at lower resolutions.
that's what they say about macintosh (seems to work): http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=173
i also made tests with usb webcams (only on linux and windows), some with usable results but most of them are crap. to be usable they should support "real" usb2.0 for high frame rates at full sensor resolution (usually 640x480), without compression and have ccd sensors for better quality and light sensitivity. (finding out usb version and other technical stuff can be real pain from manufacruerer sites, usually you'll have to try them). image quality was always worse than cheap video cameras - but as an advantage they were not interlaced like usual consumer video cameras. cable lengths can be extended by usb hubs or "repeater" cables several times, but that's also the "many-connectors - many errors" thing
@Jack: what exactly will your tracking method be based on? natural features? colors? markers? with some luck a cheap usb webcam could be good enough and also really small. (yeah, i'm a fan of using cheap consumer producs and having trouble with them - be warned)
cheers, Martin
Hello Martin and thanx for your reply,
In fact, i need a camera to track people in a space (indoor). The
camera will be on the ceiling.
There is 5 meters between the ceiling and the floor.
With the coordinates of people, i will turn on/off differents lamps
on a statue placed in the center of the space.
So i need a camera working on a MacMini with MacOSX.5 and Pd and GEM.
The last MacMini has a FireWire 800 and 5 USB 2.0.
I saw the point grey website, but i can't find price on it. However,
they talk about 10 meters cable for FireWire 800.
Do you know a model and its price ?
Today, I tried a Unibrain Fire-i™ Digital Board Camera and it seems
good (FireWire 400 : 89 euros + 19 euros with lens) But i never tried
it in installation.
++
Jack
Le 6 mars 09 à 18:06, Martin Schied a écrit :
hey all,
Jaime Oliver schrieb:
mmh, I don't really know about lengths. I think there is a limit
to how long your firewire cable should be. I usually work with
analog cameras in linux where cables can be long ad I capture with
a pci card.I think a cheap option that I've seen working well with macs is
the unibrain fire-i: http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htmyou can buy lenses and chain them, not more than 30fps though,
J
lengths between firewire 400 devices is usually 4.5m, but you can
daisy chain them up to 16 times giving you 72 metres. it's not very
recommendable to make long chains, as every plug may be a "weak
point" in your chain. firewire 800 can have longer cables, but i
don't know...Jack schrieb:
Thanx for the reply. The models are too big for me. I need a
smaller camera (something like a cube) because the installation
must be discreet. Have you something else to suggest ? Chris : what do you think about Sony driver ? I can't use a PCI
card because i will work with a macmini. ++as manufacturer of small firewire cameras there's also "point
grey". I don't know exactly about cost, and didn't try them on my
own but they often were recommended by people doing tracking, also
being said they were affordable, especially the "firefly mv" which
delivers 60fps@640x480 and even higher frame rates at lower
resolutions.that's what they say about macintosh (seems to work): http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=173
i also made tests with usb webcams (only on linux and windows),
some with usable results but most of them are crap. to be usable
they should support "real" usb2.0 for high frame rates at full
sensor resolution (usually 640x480), without compression and have
ccd sensors for better quality and light sensitivity. (finding out
usb version and other technical stuff can be real pain from
manufacruerer sites, usually you'll have to try them). image quality was always worse than cheap video cameras - but as an
advantage they were not interlaced like usual consumer video
cameras. cable lengths can be extended by usb hubs or "repeater"
cables several times, but that's also the "many-connectors - many
errors" thing@Jack: what exactly will your tracking method be based on? natural
features? colors? markers? with some luck a cheap usb webcam could
be good enough and also really small. (yeah, i'm a fan of using
cheap consumer producs and having trouble with them - be warned)cheers, Martin
hi Jack,
it's about $200 for the "firefly mv". They somehow don't want their prices in public... I had a lower price in mind - maybe I mixed that up with the unibrain. I think for that application it's not necessary using higher frame rates. I tried simple movement detection and tracking in gem, using a low resolution 30fps picture and it was nice to play with, yet at low light.
Martin
Hello Martin and thanx for your reply,
In fact, i need a camera to track people in a space (indoor). The
camera will be on the ceiling. There is 5 meters between the ceiling and the floor. With the coordinates of people, i will turn on/off differents lamps
on a statue placed in the center of the space. So i need a camera working on a MacMini with MacOSX.5 and Pd and GEM.
The last MacMini has a FireWire 800 and 5 USB 2.0. I saw the point grey website, but i can't find price on it. However,
they talk about 10 meters cable for FireWire 800. Do you know a model and its price ? Today, I tried a Unibrain Fire-i™ Digital Board Camera and it seems
good (FireWire 400 : 89 euros + 19 euros with lens) But i never tried
it in installation. ++Jack
Ok, thanx a lot Martin. Now, i will think about which model is the
most appropriate for my installation.
++
Jack
Le 6 mars 09 à 23:48, Martin Schied a écrit :
hi Jack,
it's about $200 for the "firefly mv". They somehow don't want their
prices in public... I had a lower price in mind - maybe I mixed that up with the
unibrain. I think for that application it's not necessary using
higher frame rates. I tried simple movement detection and tracking
in gem, using a low resolution 30fps picture and it was nice to
play with, yet at low light.Martin
Hello Martin and thanx for your reply,
In fact, i need a camera to track people in a space (indoor). The
camera will be on the ceiling. There is 5 meters between the ceiling and the floor. With the coordinates of people, i will turn on/off differents
lamps on a statue placed in the center of the space. So i need a camera working on a MacMini with MacOSX.5 and Pd and
GEM. The last MacMini has a FireWire 800 and 5 USB 2.0. I saw the point grey website, but i can't find price on it.
However, they talk about 10 meters cable for FireWire 800. Do you know a model and its price ? Today, I tried a Unibrain Fire-i™ Digital Board Camera and it
seems good (FireWire 400 : 89 euros + 19 euros with lens) But i
never tried it in installation. ++Jack
Hi,
I am about to buy one of these FireflyMV's. It's 350$ with shipping to california.
Has anyone actually tried them?
There is a new version with usb2.0, do any of you think it would be easier than 1394 to get these working under linux?
best,
J
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Martin Schied crinimal@gmx.net wrote:
hey all,
Jaime Oliver schrieb:
mmh, I don't really know about lengths. I think there is a limit to how long your firewire cable should be. I usually work with analog cameras in linux where cables can be long ad I capture with a pci card.
I think a cheap option that I've seen working well with macs is the unibrain fire-i: http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm
you can buy lenses and chain them, not more than 30fps though,
J
lengths between firewire 400 devices is usually 4.5m, but you can daisy chain them up to 16 times giving you 72 metres. it's not very recommendable to make long chains, as every plug may be a "weak point" in your chain. firewire 800 can have longer cables, but i don't know...
Jack schrieb:
Thanx for the reply. The models are too big for me. I need a smaller camera (something like a cube) because the installation must be discreet. Have you something else to suggest ? Chris : what do you think about Sony driver ? I can't use a PCI card because i will work with a macmini. ++
as manufacturer of small firewire cameras there's also "point grey". I don't know exactly about cost, and didn't try them on my own but they often were recommended by people doing tracking, also being said they were affordable, especially the "firefly mv" which delivers 60fps@640x480 and even higher frame rates at lower resolutions.
that's what they say about macintosh (seems to work): http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=173
i also made tests with usb webcams (only on linux and windows), some with usable results but most of them are crap. to be usable they should support "real" usb2.0 for high frame rates at full sensor resolution (usually 640x480), without compression and have ccd sensors for better quality and light sensitivity. (finding out usb version and other technical stuff can be real pain from manufacruerer sites, usually you'll have to try them). image quality was always worse than cheap video cameras - but as an advantage they were not interlaced like usual consumer video cameras. cable lengths can be extended by usb hubs or "repeater" cables several times, but that's also the "many-connectors - many errors" thing
@Jack: what exactly will your tracking method be based on? natural features? colors? markers? with some luck a cheap usb webcam could be good enough and also really small. (yeah, i'm a fan of using cheap consumer producs and having trouble with them - be warned)
cheers, Martin
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I've tried the FireFly under Linux. It worked well. I don't remember if I tried it with PD/Gem but should be fine. I used Coriander http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/ to create a videoloopback device for V4L use. jim
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 23:02 -0700, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Hi,
I am about to buy one of these FireflyMV's. It's 350$ with shipping to california.
Has anyone actually tried them?
There is a new version with usb2.0, do any of you think it would be easier than 1394 to get these working under linux?
best,
J
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Martin Schied crinimal@gmx.net wrote:
hey all,
Jaime Oliver schrieb:
mmh, I don't really know about lengths. I think there is a limit to how long your firewire cable should be. I usually work with analog cameras in linux where cables can be long ad I capture with a pci card.
I think a cheap option that I've seen working well with macs is the unibrain fire-i: http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm
you can buy lenses and chain them, not more than 30fps though,
J
lengths between firewire 400 devices is usually 4.5m, but you can daisy chain them up to 16 times giving you 72 metres. it's not very recommendable to make long chains, as every plug may be a "weak point" in your chain. firewire 800 can have longer cables, but i don't know...
Jack schrieb:
Thanx for the reply. The models are too big for me. I need a smaller camera (something like a cube) because the installation must be discreet. Have you something else to suggest ? Chris : what do you think about Sony driver ? I can't use a PCI card because i will work with a macmini. ++
as manufacturer of small firewire cameras there's also "point grey". I don't know exactly about cost, and didn't try them on my own but they often were recommended by people doing tracking, also being said they were affordable, especially the "firefly mv" which delivers 60fps@640x480 and even higher frame rates at lower resolutions.
that's what they say about macintosh (seems to work): http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=173
i also made tests with usb webcams (only on linux and windows), some with usable results but most of them are crap. to be usable they should support "real" usb2.0 for high frame rates at full sensor resolution (usually 640x480), without compression and have ccd sensors for better quality and light sensitivity. (finding out usb version and other technical stuff can be real pain from manufacruerer sites, usually you'll have to try them). image quality was always worse than cheap video cameras - but as an advantage they were not interlaced like usual consumer video cameras. cable lengths can be extended by usb hubs or "repeater" cables several times, but that's also the "many-connectors - many errors" thing
@Jack: what exactly will your tracking method be based on? natural features? colors? markers? with some luck a cheap usb webcam could be good enough and also really small. (yeah, i'm a fan of using cheap consumer producs and having trouble with them - be warned)
cheers, Martin
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did you get the full 125fps?
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 11:55 PM, jim cinetron@passport.ca wrote:
I've tried the FireFly under Linux. It worked well. I don't remember if I tried it with PD/Gem but should be fine. I used Coriander http://damien.douxchamps.net/ieee1394/coriander/ to create a videoloopback device for V4L use. jim
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 23:02 -0700, Jaime Oliver wrote:
Hi,
I am about to buy one of these FireflyMV's. It's 350$ with shipping to california.
Has anyone actually tried them?
There is a new version with usb2.0, do any of you think it would be easier than 1394 to get these working under linux?
best,
J
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Martin Schied crinimal@gmx.net wrote:
hey all,
Jaime Oliver schrieb:
mmh, I don't really know about lengths. I think there is a limit to how long your firewire cable should be. I usually work with analog cameras in linux where cables can be long ad I capture with a pci card.
I think a cheap option that I've seen working well with macs is the unibrain fire-i: http://www.unibrain.com/Products/VisionImg/Fire_i_DC.htm
you can buy lenses and chain them, not more than 30fps though,
J
lengths between firewire 400 devices is usually 4.5m, but you can daisy chain them up to 16 times giving you 72 metres. it's not very recommendable to make long chains, as every plug may be a "weak point" in your chain. firewire 800 can have longer cables, but i don't know...
Jack schrieb:
Thanx for the reply. The models are too big for me. I need a smaller camera (something like a cube) because the installation must be discreet. Have you something else to suggest ? Chris : what do you think about Sony driver ? I can't use a PCI card because i will work with a macmini. ++
as manufacturer of small firewire cameras there's also "point grey". I don't know exactly about cost, and didn't try them on my own but they often were recommended by people doing tracking, also being said they were affordable, especially the "firefly mv" which delivers 60fps@640x480 and even higher frame rates at lower resolutions.
that's what they say about macintosh (seems to work): http://www.ptgrey.com/support/kb/index.asp?a=4&q=173
i also made tests with usb webcams (only on linux and windows), some with usable results but most of them are crap. to be usable they should support "real" usb2.0 for high frame rates at full sensor resolution (usually 640x480), without compression and have ccd sensors for better quality and light sensitivity. (finding out usb version and other technical stuff can be real pain from manufacruerer sites, usually you'll have to try them). image quality was always worse than cheap video cameras - but as an advantage they were not interlaced like usual consumer video cameras. cable lengths can be extended by usb hubs or "repeater" cables several times, but that's also the "many-connectors - many errors" thing
@Jack: what exactly will your tracking method be based on? natural features? colors? markers? with some luck a cheap usb webcam could be good enough and also really small. (yeah, i'm a fan of using cheap consumer producs and having trouble with them - be warned)
cheers, Martin
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Hello, I've try this camera. http://www.digistore.fr/camera-avec-enregistreur-atc3k-p-1986.html I've test it with canopus advc 55 to convert analog video stream but it's possible to get by usb i think...
Hello
I try to implement pix_opencv in Pd-extended, and I have many problems
when I make the external
make make clean
and after copy in Pd-extended, I have this message : cp: *.pd_darwin: No such file or directory
and, in the folder, there isn't file "something".pd_darwin. It's my first time to try this, and I'm very beginner.
I search help to realize this.
thanks
p
philippe boisnard wrote:
Hello
I try to implement pix_opencv in Pd-extended, and I have many problems when I make the external
make make clean
and after copy in Pd-extended, I have this message : cp: *.pd_darwin: No such file or directory
and, in the folder, there isn't file "something".pd_darwin. It's my first time to try this, and I'm very beginner.
I search help to realize this.
i have no experiences with pix_opencv, but:
- if you are really doing "make && make clean" (in this order), then the
2nd command will delete everything (or most) that has been created by the 1st command: if "make" has created any .pd_darwin files, than "make clean" will have them deleted; try reversing the 2 commands as suggested in the INSTALL file
- do you get errors at the build-stage? something?
fgamdr IOhannes
Hello
Thank you for your answer. the order was that you write : make clean make
here the messages of console 1/ after make clean; 2/ after make.
1/ after make clean new-host-4:~ philippeboisnard$ cd Desktop new-host-4:Desktop philippeboisnard$ cd pix_opencv new-host-4:pix_opencv philippeboisnard$ make clean rm -f *.o rm -f pix_opencv*.pd_darwin
2/ after make
g++ -DPD -O2 -funroll-loops -fomit-frame-pointer -ffast-math -Wall -W
-Wno-unused -Wno-parentheses -Wno-switch -g -I/Users/philippeboisnard/
Applications/puredata/Pd-extentended/pd/src -I. -I/Users/
philippeboisnard/Applications/puredata/Pd-extentended/Gem/src -I/Users/
philippeboisnard/Applications/puredata/Pd-extentended/pd/src -I/opt/
local/var/macports/software/opencv/1.0.0_0/opt/local/include/opencv/ -
o pix_opencv_edge.o -c pix_opencv_edge.cpp
In file included from pix_opencv_edge.cpp:18:
pix_opencv_edge.h:19:28: error: Base/GemPixObj.h: No such file or
directory
pix_opencv_edge.h:22:16: error: cv.h: No such file or directory
pix_opencv_edge.h:38: error: invalid function declaration
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:20: error: expected constructor, destructor, or
type conversion before ‘(’ token
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:49: error: expected constructor, destructor, or
type conversion before ‘::’ token
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:64: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:64: error: variable or field ‘processRGBAImage’
declared void
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:64: error: ‘imageStruct’ was not declared in this
scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:64: error: ‘image’ was not declared in this scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:65: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:113: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:113: error: variable or field ‘processRGBImage’
declared void
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:113: error: ‘imageStruct’ was not declared in this
scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:113: error: ‘image’ was not declared in this scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:114: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:160: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:160: error: variable or field ‘processYUVImage’
declared void
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:160: error: ‘imageStruct’ was not declared in this
scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:160: error: ‘image’ was not declared in this scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:161: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:164: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:164: error: variable or field ‘processGrayImage’
declared void
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:164: error: ‘imageStruct’ was not declared in this
scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:164: error: ‘image’ was not declared in this scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:165: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:216: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp: In function ‘void floatThreshMess(float)’:
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:218: error: invalid use of ‘this’ in non-member
function
pix_opencv_edge.cpp: At global scope:
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: variable or field ‘obj_setupCallback’
declared void
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘t_class’ was not declared in this scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘classPtr’ was not declared in this
scope
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:226: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘t_floatarg’ has not been declared
pix_opencv_edge.cpp: In function ‘void floatTreshMessCallback(void*,
int)’:
pix_opencv_edge.cpp:232: error: ‘GetMyClass’ was not declared in this
scope
make: *** [pix_opencv_edge.o] Error 1
3/ after this, I try to copy *.pd_darwin cp: *.pd_darwin: No such file or directory
I try this implement with this help http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/doku.php?id=start:puredata_opencv
thank you for help.
philippe
Le 13 mai 09 à 09:12, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
philippe boisnard wrote:
Hello I try to implement pix_opencv in Pd-extended, and I have many
problems when I make the external make make clean and after copy in Pd-extended, I have this message : cp: *.pd_darwin: No such file or directory and, in the folder, there isn't file "something".pd_darwin. It's my first time to try this, and I'm very beginner. I search help to realize this.i have no experiences with pix_opencv, but:
- if you are really doing "make && make clean" (in this order), then
the 2nd command will delete everything (or most) that has been
created by the 1st command: if "make" has created any .pd_darwin
files, than "make clean" will have them deleted; try reversing the 2
commands as suggested in the INSTALL file
- do you get errors at the build-stage? something?
fgamdr IOhannes
hi
philippe boisnard wrote:
Hello
[...]
declared void pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘t_class’ was not declared in this scope pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘classPtr’ was not declared in this scope pix_opencv_edge.cpp:226: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been declared pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘t_floatarg’ has not been declared pix_opencv_edge.cpp: In function ‘void floatTreshMessCallback(void*, int)’: pix_opencv_edge.cpp:232: error: ‘GetMyClass’ was not declared in this scope make: *** [pix_opencv_edge.o] Error 1
3/ after this, I try to copy *.pd_darwin cp: *.pd_darwin: No such file or directory
actually, before this, you should read what it says. "error" is usually connotated as something bad (indicating that something (in this case: compiling the code) has failed)
you should carefully look through all lines containing errors (it's a good idea to start at the top error, as the rest might just be a result of prior errors)
in your case: you seem to lack the development versions of opencv, Pd and Gem (you need header-files apart from the binary files). the full code of Pd(-extended) and Gem can be downloaded via subversion (there should be info on this somewhere at http://puredata.info) how to obtain openCV i don't know, but google might help a lot.
famr IOhannes
Hello
Thank you for your help.
Many difficulty to compile this, for a first time it's not very easy.
I'll wait some times to test that, because I have an urgent project
that I must complete before mid June.
thank you
p
Le 13 mai 09 à 11:15, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
hi
philippe boisnard wrote:
Hello
[...]
declared void pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘t_class’ was not declared in this
scope pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘classPtr’ was not declared in this
scope pix_opencv_edge.cpp:226: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been
declared pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘t_floatarg’ has not been declared pix_opencv_edge.cpp: In function ‘void
floatTreshMessCallback(void*, int)’: pix_opencv_edge.cpp:232: error: ‘GetMyClass’ was not declared in
this scope make: *** [pix_opencv_edge.o] Error 1 3/ after this, I try to copy *.pd_darwin cp: *.pd_darwin: No such file or directoryactually, before this, you should read what it says. "error" is
usually connotated as something bad (indicating that something (in
this case: compiling the code) has failed)you should carefully look through all lines containing errors (it's
a good idea to start at the top error, as the rest might just be a
result of prior errors)in your case: you seem to lack the development versions of opencv,
Pd and Gem (you need header-files apart from the binary files). the full code of Pd(-extended) and Gem can be downloaded via
subversion (there should be info on this somewhere at http://puredata.info ) how to obtain openCV i don't know, but google might help a lot.famr IOhannes
You are on PowerPC or Intel ? I gave full instructions for PowerPC : http://hangar.org/wikis/lab/pd/opencv/INSTALL.macosx.ppc This could help for Intel ? (really don't know) ++
Jack
Le 14 mai 09 à 06:04, philippe boisnard a écrit :
Hello
Thank you for your help. Many difficulty to compile this, for a first time it's not very
easy. I'll wait some times to test that, because I have an urgent
project that I must complete before mid June.thank you
p
Le 13 mai 09 à 11:15, IOhannes m zmoelnig a écrit :
hi
philippe boisnard wrote:
Hello
[...]
declared void pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘t_class’ was not declared in
this scope pix_opencv_edge.cpp:225: error: ‘classPtr’ was not declared in
this scope pix_opencv_edge.cpp:226: error: expected ‘,’ or ‘;’ before ‘{’ token pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘pix_opencv_edge’ has not been
declared pix_opencv_edge.cpp:230: error: ‘t_floatarg’ has not been declared pix_opencv_edge.cpp: In function ‘void floatTreshMessCallback (void*, int)’: pix_opencv_edge.cpp:232: error: ‘GetMyClass’ was not declared in
this scope make: *** [pix_opencv_edge.o] Error 1 3/ after this, I try to copy *.pd_darwin cp: *.pd_darwin: No such file or directoryactually, before this, you should read what it says. "error" is
usually connotated as something bad (indicating that something (in
this case: compiling the code) has failed)you should carefully look through all lines containing errors
(it's a good idea to start at the top error, as the rest might
just be a result of prior errors)in your case: you seem to lack the development versions of opencv,
Pd and Gem (you need header-files apart from the binary files). the full code of Pd(-extended) and Gem can be downloaded via
subversion (there should be info on this somewhere at http:// puredata.info) how to obtain openCV i don't know, but google might help a lot.famr IOhannes
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