Hello Ben,
I think it is a good idea to discuss and hear other experiences about
how PD should be thought both in workshops and in long term courses.
I have been organizing PD workshops in Helsinki since last year and
I just had the last one during the last week. I placed the exercises
and also students works at http://www.puredata.org/Members/korayt/
Today I will update the site with the other students' works from
previous workshops. We couldn't really have time to talk about this
during the Piksel, I remember the email you sent about the same
subject when you were in Helsinki and at that time I was not in
Helsinki, so we couldn't really talk about this, but I will be
online on Tuesday.
best, Koray.
M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:38:56 -0500 From: "B. Bogart" ben@ekran.org Subject: [PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting To: PD list pd-list@iem.at Message-ID: 437E5800.6090400@ekran.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that
date. Miller can you make it?Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation
works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects
of the project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
Hi Koray!
Please post this on the workshops wiki so we have a record of all that is out there for materials.
Looking forward to hearing your POV on tuesday, I'm not sure what the attendance will be like, but I've not seen anyone asking to reschedule.
.b.
Koray Tahiroglu wrote:
Hello Ben,
I think it is a good idea to discuss and hear other experiences about how PD should be thought both in workshops and in long term courses. I have been organizing PD workshops in Helsinki since last year and I just had the last one during the last week. I placed the exercises and also students works at http://www.puredata.org/Members/korayt/
Today I will update the site with the other students' works from previous workshops. We couldn't really have time to talk about this during the Piksel, I remember the email you sent about the same subject when you were in Helsinki and at that time I was not in Helsinki, so we couldn't really talk about this, but I will be online on Tuesday.
best, Koray.
M.Koray Tahiroglu Media Lab, University of Art and Design Helsinki, TaiK Hameentie 135C 00560 Helsinki Finland http://mlab.uiah.fi/~korayt/ http://purenoise.uiah.fi:8000/ tel: +358 40 754 8449 fax: +358 9 75630 555
Message: 8 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2005 17:38:56 -0500 From: "B. Bogart" <ben@ekran.org mailto:ben@ekran.org> Subject: [PD] PD Documentation/Curriculum Meeting To: PD list <pd-list@iem.at mailto:pd-list@iem.at> Message-ID: <437E5800.6090400@ekran.org mailto:437E5800.6090400@ekran.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello all,
I'd like to set up a meeting for the discussion around the PD documentation. This is an especially interesting time considering the max vs pd thread on this list.
Documentation includes:
- Workshops (PD curriculum)
- Help Patches (PDDP)
- Manuals
- How PD relates to networks and physical media
Anything else that serves as newbie access to the world of Pure-Data+.
When?
Tuesday November 22nd @ 9.00 Pacific Time 12.00 Eastern Time 17.00 UTC 18.00 Central European
Please let us know if you would like to make it but can't do that date. Miller can you make it?
Where?
#dataflow on irc.freenode.net
Who should attend?
Anyone who has taught a PD workshop. Anyone who has attended a workshop that they know could be improved. Anyone who would like to develop standards around how documentation works. Anyhow who wants to contribute to documentation or coding to make documentation better (pddplink etc..)
Agenda:
What steps have been made?
Discussion about the wiki pages below.
Philosophy
- How PD should be taught.
- Rules for developing tutorials/workshops/curriculum
PDDP changes
- Template for help-patches (ready)
- Template for all_about (unchanged)
- Template for tutorials (new)
- Template for GUI elements
Programming (overlaps with pd-dev discussions)
- Meta data for patches/tutorials/etc..
- "Help" menu
Structure of a future wiki to separate the different aspects of the
project.
This list is a starting point that runs over many of the Documentation issues. I don't think we'll figure out a lot of these things, just casting the net and trolling for ideas. There are other issues not mentioned here either.
Required Reading: (Check out before you come!)
- https://puredata.org/docs/workshops/FrontPage/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDWorkshops/
- https://puredata.org/Members/bbogart/PDDocumentationStructure/
Thanks all, hope to see you there.
b.
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