hi all, because of trying to remote control a pd patch I was wondering if its possible to use bluetooth. Because it has to be a special device I am not planning to use any bluetooth keyboards or mice. Does anybody know a possibility to get this idea workin (on OS X in this case) or is there a way to get the bluetooth data on a midi channel? thanks, cheers
Christian Klotz Kunsthochschule Kassel / School of Arts Kassel ::digitalpool
hi,
I've tried the Salling Clicker (http://homepage.mac.com/jonassalling/Shareware/Clicker/) with my mobile phone (Nokia 6600, SonyEricsson T600) to control my PD patch, since it turns the little joystick on your mobile to become a mouse and you can write some simple apple script to simulate some shortcut keys.
Although it's not open source or free software (it costs US$20), it's quite cheap and playful, since it can be expandable by apple script, I think there'll be more possibilities than I've suggested.
於 10 Sep 04 5:16 PM 時，Christian Klotz 提到：
hi all, because of trying to remote control a pd patch I was wondering if its possible to use bluetooth. Because it has to be a special device I am not planning to use any bluetooth keyboards or mice. Does anybody know a possibility to get this idea workin (on OS X in this case) or is there a way to get the bluetooth data on a midi channel? thanks, cheers
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hi christian,
there are a few bluetooth serialport modules out there, for example the one from parallax.com. you can interface it to a microcontroller to build your own physical interface and then get the data via the comport object into your pd patch.
best
erich
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Christian Klotz wrote:
hi all, because of trying to remote control a pd patch I was wondering if its possible to use bluetooth. Because it has to be a special device I am not planning to use any bluetooth keyboards or mice. Does anybody know a possibility to get this idea workin (on OS X in this case) or is there a way to get the bluetooth data on a midi channel? thanks, cheers
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Sounds like a hell of a workaround and probably easier to do without the microcontroller. As Slimboy... says, there is Salling Clicker for OSX but I'm sure you could find some open-source solutions as well. For instance, I know there's something that lets you controll xmms from a mobile over bluetooth on linux. Most likely open-source and could give some idea of what's involved.
On fös, 2004-09-10 at 10:47, rat@telecoma.net wrote:
hi christian,
there are a few bluetooth serialport modules out there, for example the one from parallax.com. you can interface it to a microcontroller to build your own physical interface and then get the data via the comport object into your pd patch.
best
erich
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Christian Klotz wrote:
hi all, because of trying to remote control a pd patch I was wondering if its possible to use bluetooth. Because it has to be a special device I am not planning to use any bluetooth keyboards or mice. Does anybody know a possibility to get this idea workin (on OS X in this case) or is there a way to get the bluetooth data on a midi channel? thanks, cheers
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On fös, 2004-09-10 at 13:31, Pall Thayer wrote:
Sounds like a hell of a workaround and probably easier to do without the microcontroller. As Slimboy... says, there is Salling Clicker for OSX but I'm sure you could find some open-source solutions as well. For instance, I know there's something that lets you controll xmms from a mobile over bluetooth on linux. Most likely open-source and could give some idea of what's involved.
On fös, 2004-09-10 at 10:47, rat@telecoma.net wrote:
hi christian,
there are a few bluetooth serialport modules out there, for example the one from parallax.com. you can interface it to a microcontroller to build your own physical interface and then get the data via the comport object into your pd patch.
best
erich
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Christian Klotz wrote:
hi all, because of trying to remote control a pd patch I was wondering if its possible to use bluetooth. Because it has to be a special device I am not planning to use any bluetooth keyboards or mice. Does anybody know a possibility to get this idea workin (on OS X in this case) or is there a way to get the bluetooth data on a midi channel? thanks, cheers
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hi
On Sep 10, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:
I know there's something that lets you controll xmms from a mobile over bluetooth on linux. Most likely open-source and could give some idea of what's involved.
the problem is, that I wont use a mobile. I just wanna have a device which gives you the possibility to use a rotary controller which outputs a number according to the position. By pushing a button the number should be transfered to the receiver and processed by the pd patch. thats why I am looking for a solution but the mobile remote control software wont work in this case I think.
On fös, 2004-09-10 at 10:47, rat@telecoma.net wrote:
hi christian,
there are a few bluetooth serialport modules out there, for example the one from parallax.com. you can interface it to a microcontroller to build your own physical interface and then get the data via the comport object into your pd patch.
On Fri, 10 Sep 2004, Christian Klotz wrote:
hi all, because of trying to remote control a pd patch I was wondering if its possible to use bluetooth. Because it has to be a special device I am not planning to use any bluetooth keyboards or mice. Does anybody know a possibility to get this idea workin (on OS X in this case) or is there a way to get the bluetooth data on a midi channel? thanks, cheers
... and thank you all for your replies cheers
Christian Klotz Kunsthochschule Kassel / School of Arts Kassel ::digitalpool
Hallo, Christian Klotz hat gesagt: // Christian Klotz wrote:
On Sep 10, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Pall Thayer wrote:
I know there's something that lets you controll xmms from a mobile over bluetooth on linux. Most likely open-source and could give some idea of what's involved.
the problem is, that I wont use a mobile. I just wanna have a device which gives you the possibility to use a rotary controller which outputs a number according to the position. By pushing a button the number should be transfered to the receiver and processed by the pd patch. thats why I am looking for a solution but the mobile remote control software wont work in this case I think.
I read a bit about this and found, that there is a Bluethooth Human Interface Device (HID) protocol that is very similar, maybe even combatible to the USB HID protocol. At least on Linux there already are HID event externals written by Hans-Christoph Steiner (in externals/hcs). They may work or can be made to work with Bluetooth HID as well. But AFAIK there are no equivalent HID externals for OS-X, yet.
If you can live with a cord: I sometime use the Shuttle X-Press Jog/Shuttle wheel with the linuxevent externals.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
Hallo, Frank Barknecht hat gesagt: // Frank Barknecht wrote:
I read a bit about this and found, that there is a Bluethooth Human Interface Device (HID) protocol that is very similar, maybe even combatible to the USB HID protocol.
Forgot to tell you where:
http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/hid.html
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
hi erich
On Sep 10, 2004, at 12:47 PM, rat@telecoma.net wrote:
there are a few bluetooth serialport modules out there, for example the one from parallax.com. you can interface it to a microcontroller to build your own physical interface and then get the data via the comport object into your pd patch.
I had a look at the parallax site. Thanks for this. Have you ever tried this stuff? Is there to do any microcontroller programming for getting all this stuff working?
cheers
Christian Klotz Kunsthochschule Kassel / School of Arts Kassel ::digitalpool
hi,
I had a look at the parallax site. Thanks for this. Have you ever tried this stuff? Is there to do any microcontroller programming for getting all this stuff working?
its basically your choice: you can use it with a basic stamp (or other readymades) and program it in basic or you use a pic and program in assembler or c or basic or whatever languages are suported by certain pic types.
basic stamp is expensive but u dont need a programmer(hardware) and the software come for free (runs just on win and mac) pic is cheap but u need a programmer (hardware) and if u dont want to programm assembler or c then there are just a few free tools for a few types.
for prototyping and fast results i would go for one of the readymade basic programmable chips. for small series i would jump into the pic domain / its worth it.
cheers
erich
cheers
Christian Klotz Kunsthochschule Kassel / School of Arts Kassel ::digitalpool
Christian Klotz wrote:
hi all, because of trying to remote control a pd patch I was wondering if its possible to use bluetooth. Because it has to be a special device I am not planning to use any bluetooth keyboards or mice. Does anybody know a possibility to get this idea workin (on OS X in this case) or is there a way to get the bluetooth data on a midi channel?
I'd avoid MIDI in this case but it's easy to get data on a virtual serial port. On the other end of the wire-less, you can use a bluetooth module for embedded systems. Those are designed for the bluetooth SPP Serial Port Protocol, so you don't even need special-purpose PD objects or OSX drivers. They have an UART for communication with a PIC or other microcontrollers.
Antoher option is to hack a Bluetooth keyboard, mouse or maybe a gamepad (if they exist with BT, all wireless gamepads I've seen use a proprietary data radio), and connect other switches/sensors.
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