Hi,
I have a patch where I wanted to get the data of the structures to write a
.txt file. the special question was about the symbol capabilities: how far
are symbols part of DS? I noticed that drawsymbol works, but I don't know
how to write a symbol to the structure (and there's no documentation yet).
is it possible already to store and retrieve symbols in DS, just like
floats? which version is necessary to have?
cheers,
João Miguel Pais
Hallo, João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote:
I have a patch where I wanted to get the data of the structures to write a
.txt file. the special question was about the symbol capabilities: how far
are symbols part of DS? I noticed that drawsymbol works, but I don't know
how to write a symbol to the structure (and there's no documentation yet). is it possible already to store and retrieve symbols in DS, just like
floats? which version is necessary to have?
This should work since 0.39, but as always with data structures: This is an area that's changing a lot with every new Miller-Pd so I'd recommend to use 0.40 instead. With that, you can [set] and [get] symbol fields as shown in attached patch. Setting them on creation with [append] doesn't seem to work yet, however, at least I couldn't make it work.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
This should work since 0.39, but as always with data structures: This is an area that's changing a lot with every new Miller-Pd so I'd recommend to use 0.40 instead. With that, you can [set] and [get] symbol fields as shown in attached patch. Setting them on creation with [append] doesn't seem to work yet, however, at least I couldn't make it work.
thanks, it works fine on the latest version of pd-ext. I guess (I hope)
that the next step would be implementing the symbols in [append], so that
an extra [set -symbol] must not be used. Is Mr. Miller on the house? :)
one more question though: I tried to apply the [get] help patch in my
patch, but it didn't work. in the following picture, when I press traverse
pd breaks up. on the other hand, like in your patch connecting directly
[append] to the get pointer (through the inlet which is now disconnected)
it works when the structures are created, but I can't make it work after
that.
Hallo, João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote:
one more question though: I tried to apply the [get] help patch in my
patch, but it didn't work. in the following picture, when I press traverse
pd breaks up. on the other hand, like in your patch connecting directly
[append] to the get pointer (through the inlet which is now disconnected)
it works when the structures are created, but I can't make it work after
that.
[traverse pd-SUBPATCH, bang( | [pointer]
will output a pointer to the start of [pd SUBPATCH], but not a pointer to an actual scalar. You need to use [next( for that or directly:
[traverse pd-SUBPATCH, next( | [pointer]
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
[traverse pd-SUBPATCH, next( | [pointer]
hmm, komisch.
I had also tried out with next (I thought I had sent the picture with it).
the result is the same, pd quits when the [next( after the traverse comes.
there's also another structure type on the same subpatch, but I guess that
that shouldn't interfere, right?
Joao
Hallo, João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote:
[traverse pd-SUBPATCH, next( | [pointer]
hmm, komisch.
I had also tried out with next (I thought I had sent the picture with it).
the result is the same, pd quits when the [next( after the traverse comes.
there's also another structure type on the same subpatch, but I guess that
that shouldn't interfere, right?
Well, it shouldn't but it might still do so. Did you try to use [pointer f-teil] instead to make sure, you get the right type?
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
Well, it shouldn't but it might still do so. Did you try to use [pointer f-teil] instead to make sure, you get the right type?
when I use it pd doesn't break. but it goes through all the structs in the
patch (here "sek-tick" and "f-teil"). although that's not exactly what I
wanted, I can make it work as it is, by filtering out the other structs.
another question: some time ago I asked if the same feature as
select/deselect would be available, without involve changing to edit mode.
or, any way of detecting a real-time transformation of a float in a DS?
In a DS I have the lenght of a polygon which is related to a float, also
displayed. if I change the lenght with the mouse (of course, not in edit
mode), is there a way that the other float gets updated? since it's not
the same variable (even they're related), is there a way of connecting
both in real-time?
thanks,
Joao
Hallo, João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote:
another question: some time ago I asked if the same feature as
select/deselect would be available, without involve changing to edit mode.
or, any way of detecting a real-time transformation of a float in a DS?In a DS I have the lenght of a polygon which is related to a float, also
displayed. if I change the lenght with the mouse (of course, not in edit
mode), is there a way that the other float gets updated? since it's not
the same variable (even they're related), is there a way of connecting
both in real-time?
With 0.40 when changing any scalar, its respective [struct] object will send out a message compused of the word "changed" as as selector (IIRC) and the pointer to that specific scalar. You can use this pointer to update other fields accordingly on changes.
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__
Hi Hans-Christoph mainly,
is there any expected date for the update of pd-ext to the latest
miller-version? the below mentioned feature of data-s is really important
for something I am working on. basically I'm asking how much time might be
necessary, just to know how I should organise my disk and shortcuts, no
preassure intended (as if I could do any).
cheers,
Joao
PS: A recorring detail in pd-ext: if you go to help->about pd, the version
number isn't shown.
------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ------- Von: "Frank Barknecht" fbar@footils.org An: pd-list@iem.at Kopie: Betreff: Re: [PD] data structures - get symbol? -> real-time state Datum: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:04:32 +0100
Hallo, João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote:
another question: some time ago I asked if the same feature as select/deselect would be available, without involve changing to edit
mode. or, any way of detecting a real-time transformation of a float in a DS?In a DS I have the lenght of a polygon which is related to a float, also displayed. if I change the lenght with the mouse (of course, not in edit mode), is there a way that the other float gets updated? since it's not the same variable (even they're related), is there a way of connecting both in real-time?
With 0.40 when changing any scalar, its respective [struct] object will send out a message compused of the word "changed" as as selector (IIRC) and the pointer to that specific scalar. You can use this pointer to update other fields accordingly on changes.
Ciao
I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't take
much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a few months.
Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing first. The more
help, the quicker it goes.
.hc
On Nov 20, 2006, at 2:23 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
Hi Hans-Christoph mainly,
is there any expected date for the update of pd-ext to the latest
miller-version? the below mentioned feature of data-s is really
important for something I am working on. basically I'm asking how
much time might be necessary, just to know how I should organise my
disk and shortcuts, no preassure intended (as if I could do any).cheers,
Joao
PS: A recorring detail in pd-ext: if you go to help->about pd, the
version number isn't shown.------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ------- Von: "Frank Barknecht" fbar@footils.org An: pd-list@iem.at Kopie: Betreff: Re: [PD] data structures - get symbol? -> real-time state Datum: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 11:04:32 +0100
Hallo, João Miguel Pais hat gesagt: // João Miguel Pais wrote:
another question: some time ago I asked if the same feature as select/deselect would be available, without involve changing to
edit mode. or, any way of detecting a real-time transformation of a float in
a DS?In a DS I have the lenght of a polygon which is related to a
float, also displayed. if I change the lenght with the mouse (of course, not
in edit mode), is there a way that the other float gets updated? since
it's not the same variable (even they're related), is there a way of
connecting both in real-time?With 0.40 when changing any scalar, its respective [struct] object will send out a message compused of the word "changed" as as selector (IIRC) and the pointer to that specific scalar. You can use this pointer to update other fields accordingly on changes.
Ciao
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I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't take much
to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a few months. Feel
free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing first. The more help,
the quicker it goes.
ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few years for
that.
I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use miller's
distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches 0.4. if there's
something that I can help with, I can try to (I shouldn't promise, I don't
know if I can keep).
Joao
On Nov 20, 2006, at 6:36 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't take
much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a few
months. Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing
first. The more help, the quicker it goes.ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few
years for that.I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use
miller's distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches 0.4. if
there's something that I can help with, I can try to (I shouldn't
promise, I don't know if I can keep).
File bug reports with patches, test new releases, it all helps, etc.
.hc
As we enjoy great advantages from inventions of others, we should be
glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and
this we should do freely and generously. - Benjamin Franklin
I've downloaded 0.39.2-extended-test5.dmg but it doesn't work on my
10.3.9 ... simply, if i click on the icon the program doesn't starts
... maybe it depends on Panther?
thank you very much
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 04:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Nov 20, 2006, at 6:36 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't take
much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a few months.
Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing first. The
more help, the quicker it goes.ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few years
for that.I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use miller's
distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches 0.4. if there's
something that I can help with, I can try to (I shouldn't promise, I
don't know if I can keep).File bug reports with patches, test new releases, it all helps, etc.
.hc
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glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and
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On Panther/10.3, you need to install the Tcl/Tk Frameworks manually
for that particular test release. Try the TclTkAqua package from here:
http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net/
.hc
On Nov 21, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Francesco wrote:
I've downloaded 0.39.2-extended-test5.dmg but it doesn't work on my
10.3.9 ... simply, if i click on the icon the program doesn't
starts ... maybe it depends on Panther?thank you very much
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 04:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Nov 20, 2006, at 6:36 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't
take much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a
few months. Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing
first. The more help, the quicker it goes.ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few
years for that.I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use
miller's distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches 0.4.
if there's something that I can help with, I can try to (I
shouldn't promise, I don't know if I can keep).File bug reports with patches, test new releases, it all helps, etc.
.hc
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i should have the tcl/tk library 'cause 0.40 and 0.38-extended works
good
thank you :)
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 21:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Panther/10.3, you need to install the Tcl/Tk Frameworks manually
for that particular test release. Try the TclTkAqua package from
here:http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net/
.hc
On Nov 21, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Francesco wrote:
I've downloaded 0.39.2-extended-test5.dmg but it doesn't work on my
10.3.9 ... simply, if i click on the icon the program doesn't starts
... maybe it depends on Panther?thank you very much
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 04:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Nov 20, 2006, at 6:36 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't take
much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a few
months. Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing
first. The more help, the quicker it goes.ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few
years for that.I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use
miller's distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches 0.4. if
there's something that I can help with, I can try to (I shouldn't
promise, I don't know if I can keep).File bug reports with patches, test new releases, it all helps, etc.
.hc
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ok, now 39.2-extended works fine but GEM can't load on my OsX 10.3.9
... anyone else have this problem?
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 23:35, Francesco ha scritto:
i should have the tcl/tk library 'cause 0.40 and 0.38-extended works
goodthank you :)
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 21:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Panther/10.3, you need to install the Tcl/Tk Frameworks manually
for that particular test release. Try the TclTkAqua package from
here:http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net/
.hc
On Nov 21, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Francesco wrote:
I've downloaded 0.39.2-extended-test5.dmg but it doesn't work on my
10.3.9 ... simply, if i click on the icon the program doesn't starts
... maybe it depends on Panther?thank you very much
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 04:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Nov 20, 2006, at 6:36 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't take
much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a few
months. Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing
first. The more help, the quicker it goes.ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few
years for that.I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use
miller's distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches 0.4.
if there's something that I can help with, I can try to (I
shouldn't promise, I don't know if I can keep).File bug reports with patches, test new releases, it all helps, etc.
.hc
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Also have this error:
/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/
../extra/Gem.pd_darwin: dlcompat: dyld:
/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/
../bin/pd Undefined symbols:
_glBindFramebufferEXT
_glBindRenderbufferEXT
_glCheckFramebufferStatusEXT
_glDeleteFramebuffersEXT
_glDeleteRenderbuffersEXT
_glFramebu
Gem: can't load library
error: .printout.text: no such object
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 23:35, Francesco ha scritto:
i should have the tcl/tk library 'cause 0.40 and 0.38-extended works
goodthank you :)
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 21:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Panther/10.3, you need to install the Tcl/Tk Frameworks manually
for that particular test release. Try the TclTkAqua package from
here:http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net/
.hc
On Nov 21, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Francesco wrote:
I've downloaded 0.39.2-extended-test5.dmg but it doesn't work on my
10.3.9 ... simply, if i click on the icon the program doesn't starts
... maybe it depends on Panther?thank you very much
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 04:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Nov 20, 2006, at 6:36 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't take
much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a few
months. Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs finishing
first. The more help, the quicker it goes.ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few
years for that.I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use
miller's distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches 0.4.
if there's something that I can help with, I can try to (I
shouldn't promise, I don't know if I can keep).File bug reports with patches, test new releases, it all helps, etc.
.hc
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Sounds like you have something not installed, but I am not sure
what. Gem isn't my strong point.
.hc
On Nov 21, 2006, at 6:11 PM, Francesco wrote:
Also have this error:
/Applications/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test5.app/Contents/Resources/ Scripts/../extra/Gem.pd_darwin: dlcompat: dyld: /Applications/ Pd-0.39.2-extended-test5.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd
Undefined symbols: _glBindFramebufferEXT _glBindRenderbufferEXT _glCheckFramebufferStatusEXT _glDeleteFramebuffersEXT _glDeleteRenderbuffersEXT _glFramebu Gem: can't load library error: .printout.text: no such objectIl giorno 21/nov/06, alle 23:35, Francesco ha scritto:
i should have the tcl/tk library 'cause 0.40 and 0.38-extended
works goodthank you :)
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 21:39, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Panther/10.3, you need to install the Tcl/Tk Frameworks
manually for that particular test release. Try the TclTkAqua
package from here:http://tcltkaqua.sourceforge.net/
.hc
On Nov 21, 2006, at 1:38 PM, Francesco wrote:
I've downloaded 0.39.2-extended-test5.dmg but it doesn't work on
my 10.3.9 ... simply, if i click on the icon the program doesn't
starts ... maybe it depends on Panther?thank you very much
Il giorno 21/nov/06, alle 04:33, Hans-Christoph Steiner ha scritto:
On Nov 20, 2006, at 6:36 PM, João Miguel Pais wrote:
> I've built Pd-extended against 0.40 successfully so it won't
> take much to do, I think. But I don't plan on doing it for a
> few months. Feel free to beat me to it. 0.39.2 needs
> finishing first. The more help, the quicker it goes.ahh, I would be glad to beat you, but first I must study a few
years for that.I was just asking because then I'll setup my computer to use
miller's distr, and leave yours on standby until it reaches
0.4. if there's something that I can help with, I can try to
(I shouldn't promise, I don't know if I can keep).File bug reports with patches, test new releases, it all helps,
etc..hc
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