On Dec 20, 2005, at 5:06 AM, João Miguel Pais wrote:

...

• Preliminary international character support. It seems to work fine

in comments, not yet in objects and messages.

will this be a part of the canonical version soon? maybe it isn't as
important as 64bit support or something else, but it will be strange
when the patches from different versions will show up different - by
comments it is relatively harmless, but when an object/message called
"après" or "verzögerung" is there, the patch will work only on one
version.

That's ultimately up to Miller, but this is a good first step. If it
works fine, then its much more likely to be included. This is a quick
hack, there is a probably a better way to do it, if anyone wants to
try.

Personally, I think the best implementation of this would be a
[comment] object with i18n support, so that all of the comments could
be internationalized, but the patches would remain the same.

.hc

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realize his wishes. Now that he can realize them, he must either change them, or perish. -William Carlos
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On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:27 AM, Michael Mihocic wrote:

Thanks! I just tested your Windows package on my WinXP system with the
packages: iemlib, OSC, comport, vasp, dyn~ and zexy. (@set pd_LIB=-lib lib\iemlib1 -lib lib\iemlib2 -lib lib\OSC -lib
lib\comport -lib lib\vasp -lib lib\zexy -lib lib\dyn~)

What's this?

I have got problems with the following two packages:

• OSC (a later version was modiefied by Piotr Majdak and checked in by

Georg Holzmann), just 20 arguments can be set when using OSC-route, I
generally use 24 arguments

Yes, the current version in CVS doesn't compile on Windows/MinGW, so I
used an old binary. I never use OSC and I rarely use Windows, so I
have little motivation to fix it. (Plus I am burnt out on build system
stuff). But it would be great if someone could get the ./configure &&
make working on MinGW. It should be relatively easy, and I'll answer
any questions.

• vasp, cannot be loaded, neither from my lib folder, nor from the

"extra" folder -> objects (min, max,...) can not be created

hmm, it should be there. I'll try to add it for the next release.

.hc

I send you a copy of my pd-log text. Maybe you can find current versions of the packages (for your release
version) or my error cause...

Thanks & greets Michael

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

This is a big Windows release, and a bugfix release for GNU/Linux and
Mac OS X.

What's new:

• The Windows release is now compiled with MinGW and has all of the

same patches to the core as the other two.

• Preliminary international character support. It seems to work fine

in comments, not yet in objects and messages.

.hc

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You can also install the fink libs, but I am trying to have all of the
dependencies included, so in that sense its a bug.

.hc

On Dec 20, 2005, at 12:36 PM, Lorenz Schori wrote:

hi enrique

"can't open library: /sw/lib/libogg.0.dylib" -> you don't have libogg
installed. the easiest way to get it+all the dependendcies is to
install fink and then install libogg using fink.

fink website: http://fink.sf.net, fink commander (ui):
http://finkcommander.sf.net

lorenz

Am 20.12.2005 um 17:15 schrieb Enrique Erne:

...

hi hc & list

I can't load oggread~. is it supposed to work?

/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/ ../extra/oggread~.pd_darwin: dlcompat: dyld:
/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/ ../bin/pd can't open library: /sw/lib/libogg.0.dylib (No such file
or directory, errno = 2)

oggread~ ... couldn't create

regards

eni

On Dec 20, 2005, at 7:41 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

This is a big Windows release, and a bugfix release for GNU/Linux
and Mac OS X.

What's new:

• The Windows release is now compiled with MinGW and has all of the

same patches to the core as the other two.

• Preliminary international character support. It seems to work fine

in comments, not yet in objects and messages.

.hc

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hi enrique,

On Dec 20, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:

I can't load oggread~. is it supposed to work?

/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC6.app/Contents/Resources/ Scripts/../extra/oggread~.pd_darwin: dlcompat: dyld: /Applications/ Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/../bin/pd
can't open library: /sw/lib/libogg.0.dylib (No such file or
directory, errno = 2)

oggread~ ... couldn't create

...just tried it here (10.4.3) and it works fine: I even checked the
dylibs inside the .app with "otool -L" and they report back
correctly: do you have a ~/.pdrc, or an older copy of
oggread~.pd_darwin in some path that pd is looking in?

...also, what OSX version are you seeing this on?

james

wow that was fast. thanks a lot!

eni

On Dec 20, 2005, at 8:13 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

Well, it was an easy fix, so I fixed RC6. RC6 with working ogg
objects and included OSC is up on the site:

http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

Happy [insert gift giving holiday here] to all!

.hc

On Dec 20, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:

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hi hc & list

I can't load oggread~. is it supposed to work?

/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/ ../extra/oggread~.pd_darwin: dlcompat: dyld:
/Applications/Pd-0.38.4-extended-RC6.app/Contents/Resources/Scripts/ ../bin/pd can't open library: /sw/lib/libogg.0.dylib (No such file
or directory, errno = 2)

oggread~ ... couldn't create

regards

eni

On Dec 20, 2005, at 7:41 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

This is a big Windows release, and a bugfix release for GNU/Linux
and Mac OS X.

What's new:

• The Windows release is now compiled with MinGW and has all of the

same patches to the core as the other two.

• Preliminary international character support. It seems to work fine

in comments, not yet in objects and messages.

.hc

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Hi,

Also, pool seems to be killing Pd. This happens with RC5 also - not
sure about 3 or 4.

there was a quite severe bug in the latest packaged release of pool that i fixed in the meantime. Under which circumstances does pool kill pd?

greetings, Thomas

dafydd hughes schrieb:

Hi Thomas

...

Under which circumstances does pool kill pd?

Upon creation. Just up and shuts down. I just tried with the build
from your site, and the same happens.

Could this be due to the version of OSX? (10.4.3)

No, i don't think so.... must be a version clash or similar. I have never used the extended package, sorry.

greetings, Thomas

On Dec 20, 2005, at 11:50 AM, dafydd hughes wrote:

Hi hc

Thanks for all your work on these releases. Do you sleep?

Your welcome. Not much sleep these days...

Just tried out RC6. Is OSC missing from the package? I can't find
any notes on the subject.

It is missing indeed. I'll make an RC7 with OSC and working libogg
soon. You can get OSC from RC5.

Also, pool seems to be killing Pd. This happens with RC5 also - not
sure about 3 or 4.

This is OS 10.4.3

Hmm, works fine for me on 10.3.9. This is what it says:

pool 0.2.2pre - hierarchical storage object, (C)2002-2005 Thomas Grill

.hc

cheers dafydd

On 20-Dec-05, at 1:41 AM, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

This is a big Windows release, and a bugfix release for GNU/Linux and
Mac OS X.

What's new:

• The Windows release is now compiled with MinGW and has all of the

same patches to the core as the other two.

• Preliminary international character support. It seems to work fine

in comments, not yet in objects and messages.

.hc

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That's a good question, I am not sure. MinGW has the big advantage
that you can cross-compile from GNU/Linux or Mac OS X. I am also quite
close to getting configure.ac and makefile.in working on MinGW, so that
means one build system for all platforms. (I have Pd compiling with
configure.ac and makefile.in, but the portaudio stuff doesn't work
yet).

MSVC is most likely a fair amount better at optimizing for Windows.
Anyone have any test patches for this?

.hc

On Dec 20, 2005, at 2:17 PM, Miller Puckette wrote:

Quick question - how does mingw compare with MSVC in terms of run-time efficiency? If it's comparable I should switch over...

cheers Miller

On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 01:41:17AM -0500, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

This is a big Windows release, and a bugfix release for GNU/Linux and Mac OS X.

What's new:

• The Windows release is now compiled with MinGW and has all of the

same patches to the core as the other two.

• Preliminary international character support. It seems to work fine

in comments, not yet in objects and messages.

.hc

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Hi Hans,

I could not figure out if you have already looked at this but the OSC lib does not load using your included plist because it says:

-lib oscx

but to load OSCx you need to do:

-lib OSC

..b

On Dec 21, 2005, at 5:18 AM, Anders Friberg wrote:

Thanks for the new version! I am running the Windows version on a rather old computer. Everytime I
open a patch or just clicking on a subpatch it is very slow to open
it. It seems that the whole windows updating system is slow. Just one
example: opening the "Test Audio and Video" window takes over 4
seconds. I think it was the same problem with previous test releases
but not as much. Can it have something to do with the compiler change?

Its caused by the help menu, which is a kludge until a real help
browser gets implemented some time in the future. You can disable it
by commenting out one line in pd.tk, line 569. Change:

 menu_doc_submenu $mbar.$help_menu_name "." "."

to this:

# menu_doc_submenu $mbar.$help_menu_name "." "."

and it'll be disabled.

It crashed quite a few times (actually suddenly quits) just trying
different patches on the help menu.

Which patches? This could be caused by so many different things.

Also when trying different patches some objects cannot be found - are
there some more packages that should be included in the startup list? Some examples freeverb~

add "freeverb" to the list of libs to be installed. I added it to the
pd-settings.reg.

all rrad... ezdac~

Its already in the included pd-settings.reg. You need to load the lib
"rradical" to use it, or prefix the object name with "rradical/", i.e.
[rradical/ezdac~].

.hc

/Anders

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote:

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http://at.or.at/hans/pd/installers.html

This is a big Windows release, and a bugfix release for GNU/Linux and
Mac OS X.

What's new:

• The Windows release is now compiled with MinGW and has all of the

same patches to the core as the other two.

• Preliminary international character support. It seems to work fine

in comments, not yet in objects and messages.

.hc

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