Yves Degoyon wrote:

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

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it seems like pidip is searching for libquicktime at the wrong place (where it cannot find it); Gem seems to find it, so pidip can re-use the bindings made available for Gem.

err, sorry, pidip is not even searching for quicktime, for habitually it's linked and loaded with pdp..

so "pidip is searching for libquicktime at the wrong place" is _again_ an abuse.. if you don't know, just ask...

ok, now i do ask: who has abused? who (or what?) has been abused? when has this one been abused before?

anyhow, even though i don't know anything about it, i keep on brabbling: javi, it seems that your pdp has been compiled without quicktime support (or against another version of quicktime, which is not available on your computer), but pidip (watch out!) relies on pdp providing quicktime bindings. try "ldd pdp.pd_linux | grep libquicktime" (in the correct path, or course), and see what it tells you. if it doesn't find anything, then pdp lacks quicktime support; if it refers to an unkown location, you might be able to fix it by symlinking (and/or modifying your /etc/ld.so.conf)

and to answer your subject-line: as can be easily seen, the relation between pidip and Gem is of deep love and ab/musement.

mfga-sdr IOhannes

hi

Yves Degoyon wrote:

hola,

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"pidip is searching for libquicktime at the wrong place"

you should read the entire sentence in my original mail. it said "it seems like pidip is searching for libquicktime at the wrong place", which - to my limited knowledge of the english language - expresses an uncertainty about the information on my side (just to stress it: the important part is the "it seems")

is an affirmation, unjustified and not founded at all,

i believe, that expressing uncertainty is _not_ an affirmation.

that's where the abuse is, unverified information.

this is an interesting definition of "abuse". after a bit of research it seems (sic!) like you are referring to something along the lines of the "verbal abuse" article at wikipedia[1]. all in all i am not entirely sure, who is the abused one.

what i believe is true, however, is that we both belong to the group of people who "engage in fierce argument, validating the hostility by mirroring it." [1]

and now something totally different : what's the status of the moonlibs http://www.moonix.freesurf.fr/ ? did a. rousseau gave up pd? is it included in pd.-extended? in cvs?

not to my knowledge (brabbling again...), but since you have write access to the pd-cvs, you could just add it (the license seems(!) to be LGPL, but i have checked only a random sample; probably it would be good to contact a. rousseau before doing so)

mfg.asdr IOhannes

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbal_abuse

Hi,

IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote:

have you compiled pidip yourself? (or updated quicktime after you compiled pidip?)

I didn't compiled pidip by myself. I have been installing some mov codecs.

it seems like pidip is searching for libquicktime at the wrong place (where it cannot find it); Gem seems to find it, so pidip can re-use the bindings made available for Gem.

try: ~> ldd /path/to/my/pidip.pd_linux

When i try to locate pidip.pd_linux, the terminal shows this:

/usr/lib/pd/extra/pidip.pd_linux /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux /usr/local/Pd-0.39.2-extended-test7/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux

Im not sure but i think i have at least to releases of puredata installed. I had problems installing puredata the first time... For example I dont know what of those two releases I open when i write "pd". How can i know it?

Anyway, because of the problems that two releases together could give me, should i uninstall every releases and install pd again?

br Javi

From: IOhannes m zmoelnig zmoelnig@iem.at To: Javier García tirengarfio@hotmail.com CC: PD-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] Any relation between pidip and Gem?? Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 09:22:48 +0200

Javier García wrote:

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But if i delete "Gem" from my list, i get this:

PDP: pure data packet version 0.12.5-darcs /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: /usr/local/lib/pd/extra/pidip/pidip.pd_linux: undefined symbol: quicktime_close

Why? Im curious...

have you compiled pidip yourself? (or updated quicktime after you compiled pidip?)

it seems like pidip is searching for libquicktime at the wrong place (where it cannot find it); Gem seems to find it, so pidip can re-use the bindings made available for Gem.

try: ~> ldd /path/to/my/pidip.pd_linux

and watch out for the libquicktime library (it should tell you the full name it is looking for and that it cannot find it); you will probably have to do some symlinking stuff and editing of /etc/ld.so.conf in order to make pidip work without an auxiliary Gem load.

mfg.asdf IOhannes

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