for PD:

apt-get install puredata

i hope, this won't install the buggy version of pd with the memory leak, that crashes your machine after a short time ...

cheers ... t

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apt-get install puredata

i hope, this won't install the buggy version of pd with the memory leak, that crashes your machine after a short time ...

It only has problems if you use MIDI output a lot. I decided to accept the alsa midi patch because I think it opens a lot of possibilities on Linux. I haven't reviewed it properly, I am sorry for that.

well, i experienced the memory leak in a patch containing a py, a netreceive and a print object... i don't think, any of there actually use midi ...

cheers ... t

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Tim Blechmann wrote:

well, i experienced the memory leak in a patch containing a py, a netreceive and a print object... i don't think, any of there actually use midi ...

hi,

I just found one courious thing about ALSA, it seems that they changed the behaviour of how midi events are allocated. This means that if you have an old ALSA version, then there is a missing "snd_seq_event_free()" in sys_poll_midi(). With the newer version the MIDI events shouldn't be freed. Which version of ALSA do you have ? How long does it take for you until Pd crashes ?

Just wondering, because noone else reported the problem up to now. An old ALSA library would be an explanation.

Guenter

PS: You can debug memory leaks easily using valgrind.

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Tim Blechmann wrote:

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How long does it take for you until Pd crashes ?

about 10 to 20 minutes, sometimes only a few minutes...

Ok, I think someone else would have noticed that, so it is likely to be the alsa thing.

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PS: You can debug memory leaks easily using valgrind.

what's how i found it ;-)

well, good. The next time if you do a bug report, can you please include all this information. This would make the task a lot easier.

Thanks,

Guenter

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I suppose I should ask this list, then --

I'm trying to get Debian (kernel 2.4.18) running on a PPC (iBook 300 MHz - I know, it's ancient) - has anyone else out there had any luck with installing a low-latency patch into the kernel? Agnula/Demudi have yet to be ported to PPC, and it seems most Linux users are disgruntled ex-Windows users, very few are running Linux on a Mac.

Thanks david

From: MvH cola@looze.net To: günter geiger geiger@xdv.org CC: julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net, pd-list@iem.at Subject: Re: [PD] best linux system for using Pd just now Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 01:49:52 +0100

Ubuntu is a debian based distrobution so it could work with the debian tools. I think you'll want to do the apt-get thing with pd. If you want to compile from source, you will also need include files of everything ( usually the -devel packages ).

I have looked ubuntu a few days ago, but it's not really a 'developer' distro with all the includes you would like to have. If you can solve your problems using the debian tools you should be fine, else I'd turn to something that gives you the includes and full sources directly instead of trying to fix a cripple distrobution.

Redhat, Suse or slack are your friends there ( I guess debian too ) However, that's a personal view.

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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:

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So if anyone has a quick solution for running Pd as soon as possible, it will be truly appreciated

To fix the kernel problems you might consider installing the agnula kernels:

add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://apt.agnula.org/demudi testing local

apt-get install kernel-image-2.4.25-1-multimedia-386 apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.25-1-multimedia-386

use alsaconf to configure the card, unfortunately I have no experience with the HDSP.

for PD:

apt-get install puredata

I don't know if this will work, but its quick to try

Guenter

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best regards, -j

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Yes, very few are running linux on mac. IOne can say it's masochist. So I am. pd WAS working (fine) on my powerbook G3 @ 400 MHz (pismo), with a Debian (last summer) and then ubuntu (warty). Since the (ubuntu) hoary release, I still have NO sound. Alsa is not working, nor OSS.

Frederic Voisin

On mar, 2005-03-22 at 21:41 +0100, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote:

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it seems most Linux users are disgruntled ex-Windows users,

-Of course.

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very few are running Linux on a Mac.

-Doesn't surprise me a bit...

AvS

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Just because by many other aspect, the ubuntu disto is much more easy to instal, even with a mac. I do know ubuntu is an unstable disto on debian, and hoary an unstable ubuntu. In a other hand, wifi config. with airpot was not a trivial problem to fix on mac. It's (quite) fixed with hoary. So, I had sound but no wifi: I have now wifi and no sound. May I wish both together before 6 months ? If I'm following you're way, since I began with a NeXT 10 years ago, I should continu to play sound with FTS on NeXTStep: it stills run and was already OSX like ! Just a little bit more heavy.

Frederic Voisin

On mer, 2005-03-23 at 00:09 +0100, Arie van Schutterhoef wrote:

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pd WAS working (fine) on my powerbook G3 @ 400 MHz (pismo), with a Debian

-So why changing it in the first place... Another victim of the technology upgrade rat-race? '...upgrade now, or you are doomed not to be modern...'

Hallo, gÃŒnter geiger hat gesagt: // gÃŒnter geiger wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 julien.breval@tremplin-utc.net wrote:

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So if anyone has a quick solution for running Pd as soon as possible, it will be truly appreciated

To fix the kernel problems you might consider installing the agnula kernels:

add the following to /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://apt.agnula.org/demudi testing local

...

for PD:

apt-get install puredata

I'd like to issue a warning here: The latest stable A/Demudi 1.2.0 includes Pd packages which are ridden with some nasty bugs, as I had to find out yesterday on a friend 1.2.0 install. Not even "expr" did work in the default install, and trying to use my rradical patches will lead to immediate crashes because the wrong "prepend" is in the A/Demudi pd-externals package.

However the latest offical Debian 0.38 packages by Guenther are fine in general (apart from the recently discovered amidi memory leak and maybe some other bugs like [1] which are due to pd-0.38 being not really officially stable) as are Guenther's pd-externals and pd-flext packages. I'm not sure if these are also in A/Demudi 1.2.1 yet, but they probably will be sooner or later and can be installed now without much hassle even on A/Demudi.

[1] Did you see this one, Guenther: http://tinyurl.com/69nu3 ? It's a one-line patch, but IMO critical in several usecases.

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Hallo, gÃŒnter geiger hat gesagt: // gÃŒnter geiger wrote:

On Wed, 23 Mar 2005, Frank Barknecht wrote:

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[1] Did you see this one, Guenther: http://tinyurl.com/69nu3 ? It's a one-line patch, but IMO critical in several usecases.

Seems to be save enough to be included. But then we still have all the other versions and Millers version that don't work this way, so it would be better if Miller accepts it.

Yes, definitly. That's why I used the SF bugtracker and not the Debian one. ;)

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