Hi all I'm in the way to buy a laptop theses days and would know if someone could give me a good advice, I need to install a debian (or ubuntu) system on it. I'll use the laptop for audio/video liveshows with pd/gem, with many GEM objects so a good graphic card is needed I have a max ~900euros budget.
Short story : Some years ago a bought an asus a8js with 7700Go nvidia graphic card, very good performances and linux friendly, worked perfectly with all debian/ubuntu distros I've used and I've done a lot of lives and works with it... BUT ! This card have burned and damaged all my motherboard ! This is due to a very bad graphic nvidia (proprietary) driver, explanations here : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-19675-drivers-can-kill-you...
Now a lots of laptop are shipped with ATI cards, so my questions are :
- are ATI cards goods for pd/gem users ?
- is someone here have any advice on a good laptop for pd/gem use
Thanks in advance for any comment/ideas,
pierre
wow! I got a thinkpad w510 and I use nouveau driver (experimental). I hope I'm not at risk here of damaging my system. This graphic drivers issue sucks!
2010/8/26 pierre pierre@314r.net:
Hi all I'm in the way to buy a laptop theses days and would know if someone could give me a good advice, I need to install a debian (or ubuntu) system on it. I'll use the laptop for audio/video liveshows with pd/gem, with many GEM objects so a good graphic card is needed I have a max ~900euros budget.
Short story : Some years ago a bought an asus a8js with 7700Go nvidia graphic card, very good performances and linux friendly, worked perfectly with all debian/ubuntu distros I've used and I've done a lot of lives and works with it... BUT ! This card have burned and damaged all my motherboard ! This is due to a very bad graphic nvidia (proprietary) driver, explanations here : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-19675-drivers-can-kill-you...
Now a lots of laptop are shipped with ATI cards, so my questions are :
- are ATI cards goods for pd/gem users ?
- is someone here have any advice on a good laptop for pd/gem use
Thanks in advance for any comment/ideas,
pierre
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thinkpad w510
wow...that's a supercomputer!
NVIDIA Quadro FX 880M with 1GB DDR3
wow... on a laptop.
Intel Core i7-920XM (2GHz, 8MB Cache) 8GB DDR3 RAM (4GB + 4GB)wow...
and multitouch? wow....
How much did you paid, did you buy the version with two finger Mt-screen?
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Bernardo Barros bernardobarros2@gmail.comwrote:
wow! I got a thinkpad w510 and I use nouveau driver (experimental). I hope I'm not at risk here of damaging my system. This graphic drivers issue sucks!
2010/8/26 pierre pierre@314r.net:
Hi all I'm in the way to buy a laptop theses days and would know if someone
could give me a good advice,
I need to install a debian (or ubuntu) system on it. I'll use the laptop for audio/video liveshows with pd/gem, with many GEM
objects so a good graphic card is needed
I have a max ~900euros budget.
Short story : Some years ago a bought an asus a8js with 7700Go nvidia graphic card, very good performances and linux friendly, worked perfectly with all
debian/ubuntu distros I've used and I've done a lot of lives and works with it...
BUT ! This card have burned and damaged all my motherboard ! This is due to a
very bad graphic nvidia (proprietary) driver, explanations here :
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-19675-drivers-can-kill-you...
Now a lots of laptop are shipped with ATI cards, so my questions are :
- are ATI cards goods for pd/gem users ?
- is someone here have any advice on a good laptop for pd/gem use
Thanks in advance for any comment/ideas,
pierre
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On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:06 PM, pierre pierre@314r.net wrote:
Hi all I'm in the way to buy a laptop theses days and would know if someone could give me a good advice, I need to install a debian (or ubuntu) system on it. I'll use the laptop for audio/video liveshows with pd/gem, with many GEM objects so a good graphic card is needed I have a max ~900euros budget.
Short story : Some years ago a bought an asus a8js with 7700Go nvidia graphic card, very good performances and linux friendly, worked perfectly with all debian/ubuntu distros I've used and I've done a lot of lives and works with it... BUT ! This card have burned and damaged all my motherboard ! This is due to a very bad graphic nvidia (proprietary) driver, explanations here :
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-19675-drivers-can-kill-you...
Now a lots of laptop are shipped with ATI cards, so my questions are :
- are ATI cards goods for pd/gem users ?
ATI cards are less good for Linux users :o/ as support is sparse and sometimes (especially a few years after buying the computer) you may have problems finding a driver. I think a motherboard-burning driver is an exceptional problem which should not repeat anytime soon, so I'd go with Nvidia.
Andras
I have the a8js and it's great for ubuntu/pd/Gem. I'd say the driver killer is a pretty isolated incident and that you'll have a better time getting a laptop with an nvidia chip. If you liked the A8Js then maybe it's time to get another ASUS?
Cheers, -martin
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:06 +0200, pierre wrote:
Hi all I'm in the way to buy a laptop theses days and would know if someone could give me a good advice, I need to install a debian (or ubuntu) system on it. I'll use the laptop for audio/video liveshows with pd/gem, with many GEM objects so a good graphic card is needed I have a max ~900euros budget.
Short story : Some years ago a bought an asus a8js with 7700Go nvidia graphic card, very good performances and linux friendly, worked perfectly with all debian/ubuntu distros I've used and I've done a lot of lives and works with it... BUT ! This card have burned and damaged all my motherboard ! This is due to a very bad graphic nvidia (proprietary) driver, explanations here : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-19675-drivers-can-kill-you...
Now a lots of laptop are shipped with ATI cards, so my questions are :
- are ATI cards goods for pd/gem users ?
- is someone here have any advice on a good laptop for pd/gem use
Thanks in advance for any comment/ideas,
pierre
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hello,
the driver that cause problem was online for 1 week, and there was huge announce that you should not use it. i had a A8JS, and then a N80 (both was almost the same computer, but with everything upgraded. i can use both battery in the same laptop by example). i think the N81 is also almost the same, updated computer. asus are the only one to provide 14 inch laptop with "good" gpu.
for now, i think nvidia still provide better driver than ati, but things slowly improve on ati.
cyrille
Le 27/08/2010 18:20, Martin Eckart a écrit :
I have the a8js and it's great for ubuntu/pd/Gem. I'd say the driver killer is a pretty isolated incident and that you'll have a better time getting a laptop with an nvidia chip. If you liked the A8Js then maybe it's time to get another ASUS?
Cheers, -martin
On Thu, 2010-08-26 at 15:06 +0200, pierre wrote:
Hi all I'm in the way to buy a laptop theses days and would know if someone could give me a good advice, I need to install a debian (or ubuntu) system on it. I'll use the laptop for audio/video liveshows with pd/gem, with many GEM objects so a good graphic card is needed I have a max ~900euros budget.
Short story : Some years ago a bought an asus a8js with 7700Go nvidia graphic card, very good performances and linux friendly, worked perfectly with all debian/ubuntu distros I've used and I've done a lot of lives and works with it... BUT ! This card have burned and damaged all my motherboard ! This is due to a very bad graphic nvidia (proprietary) driver, explanations here : http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/warning-nvidia-19675-drivers-can-kill-you...
Now a lots of laptop are shipped with ATI cards, so my questions are :
- are ATI cards goods for pd/gem users ?
- is someone here have any advice on a good laptop for pd/gem use
Thanks in advance for any comment/ideas,
pierre
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Le 27 août 2010 à 18:40, cyrille henry a écrit :
hello,
the driver that cause problem was online for 1 week, and there was huge announce that you should not use it.
that's right, I just posted this short story to point that a driver can (sometimes) cause big troubles
i had a A8JS, and then a N80 (both was almost the same computer, but with everything upgraded. i can use both battery in the same laptop by example). i think the N81 is also almost the same, updated computer. asus are the only one to provide 14 inch laptop with "good" gpu.
for now, i think nvidia still provide better driver than ati, but things slowly improve on ati.
cyrille
Thanks all for your feedback, I just ordered a dell vostro 3700 good specs, (1600x900 pix, nvidia 330m, i5, hdd 7200rpm, retro light keyboard...) for a 'not so high' price And this computer don't use nvidia optimus (*), so I can use integrated intel graphic or nvidia, just have to uncheck an option in the bios.
(*) http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=144750
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