I really hate it when people do this, but I'm near wits end with my search for a reasonably priced laptop/notebook on which I would be able to run Linux and PD. I currently have a Dell CPx-J650 which is fine for most things but the beast is completely unshielded, it would seem, and so noisy as to render it basically useless for audio (even using my external audio interface - the noise leaks out to it as well).
So I'm looking for any recommendations or suggestions from PD'ers who have recently purchased PC laptops and are running Linux/PD on them. Positive or negative experiences would both be appreciated. I'm hoping to keep the price under $2000 if possible.
While we're at it, I'm about to ebay my MOTU 828 Firewire audio interface, since MOTU doesn't support Linux - so I'll be looking for a replacement good-quality external audio interface. I have heard great things about the Hammerfall cardbus system, but the pricetag (>$1000) is a little steep for me, if there are similar options - something with great quality, multiple analog I/Os, SPDIF, etc - that work just as well. Any suggestions or experiences?
Thanks so much.
- david d.
I have a negative experience to share: avoid mixing Compaq presario 700 and Suse. The normal audiocard (soundmax) was impossible to configure (modem as well), until eventually lost my patience. I would say that computers that are perfect for windows don't work always in linux. Maybe buying a system that comes already with linux is the best choice (some shops and sites in the internet have that choice already).
João
well it of course depends on your patience :-) It took me quite a while to install a proper linux build on my Sony Vaio Laptop. If you have not tossed the thing yet i would recommend that you get a version of Redhat 7.3 or 8 and install the .rpms at PLanet CRMA (grab the ACPI Kernel under System..that should fix your soundcard and or modem problem i am betting.
Pat
-----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin@iem.kug.ac.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.kug.ac.at]On Behalf Of JoXo Miguel Pais Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 5:30 PM To: PD list Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] notebook recommendations?
I have a negative experience to share: avoid mixing Compaq presario 700 and Suse. The normal audiocard (soundmax) was impossible to configure (modem as well), until eventually lost my patience. I would say that computers that are perfect for windows don't work always in linux. Maybe buying a system that comes already with linux is the best choice (some shops and sites in the internet have that choice already).
João
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On Wednesday 21 May 2003 00:30, JoXo Miguel Pais wrote:
I have a negative experience to share: avoid mixing Compaq presario 700 and Suse. The normal audiocard (soundmax) was impossible to configure (modem as well), until eventually lost my patience. I would say that computers that are perfect for windows don't work always in linux. Maybe buying a system that comes already with linux is the best choice (some shops and sites in the internet have that choice already).
João
Me too; a negative experience... no, let me think... a (painful) learning experience. Don't mix hp xe4100 with the rme hdsp cardbus thingy. After a couple of months of fighting I'm now looking to buy a new laptop in which I can run pd through the hdsp under linux. Everything works in windows though (sigh).
Anyone using hdsp(cardbus&multiface)+pd on linux successfully? On which laptop?
Gosh i never knew there was so much troubles i am successfully running linux redhat 7.3 on Sony Vaio PCG-GRX560 with 1.8 GHz and 512 MBram
i got the Modem,audio card jogdial and ALSA w/usb emi2|6 (stereo) and a midiman w/slidemate running in pd
There were nightmares initially regarding acpi and usb management but i joined a few lists and patched a custom kernel (before i found Nando world ...or ..er Planet..lol...
i even got DVD playback (with ogle) and xmms playing cd-audio if anybody needs help please let me know
Patrick Pagano Research and Development Assistant Digital Worlds Institute University Of Florida http://www.screwmusicforever.com/SHREESWIFT
-----Original Message----- From: pd-list-admin@iem.kug.ac.at [mailto:pd-list-admin@iem.kug.ac.at]On Behalf Of Jaakko Prättälä Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2003 7:57 PM To: PD list Subject: Re: [PD] [OT] notebook recommendations?
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 00:30, JoXo Miguel Pais wrote:
I have a negative experience to share: avoid mixing Compaq presario 700
and
Suse. The normal audiocard (soundmax) was impossible to configure (modem
as
well), until eventually lost my patience. I would say that computers that are perfect for windows don't work always in linux. Maybe buying a system that comes already with linux is the best choice (some shops and sites in the internet have that choice already).
João
Me too; a negative experience... no, let me think... a (painful) learning experience. Don't mix hp xe4100 with the rme hdsp cardbus thingy. After a couple of months of fighting I'm now looking to buy a new laptop in which I can run pd through the hdsp under linux. Everything works in windows though (sigh).
Anyone using hdsp(cardbus&multiface)+pd on linux successfully? On which laptop?
-- Jaakko Prättälä Jaakko.Prattala@Helsinki.FI
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hi jaakko,
using debian linux with RME HDSP cardbus on Asus L3 series laptop. the laptop itself isn't super. biggest problem is that everything in the enitre world, including the soundcard and PCMCIA bus [along with firewire, usb, modem and ethernet] are all wired to IRQ 9, making it a crowded little bus. it has a super-stoopid BIOS which doesn't allow me to change IRQ routing, so if anybody knows enough about kernel boot parameters to give me some tips on this speak now.... also, the pcmcia hardware is not the best [ricoh cardbus controllers are explicitely NOT recommended by RME. too bad i read this too late....]. still, with jack and alsa running, i get fairly good, low latency results, even if RME tells me i will never run all 18 channels at once!
in your RME HDSPsearch, perhaps you ran accross these sites:
http://pd.klingt.org/files/hdsp-howto.html http://petertodd.ca/hdsp.php
i'll have to make my own page. someday....
good luck to all linux laptop audio aspirants, derek
Jaakko Prättälä wrote:
On Wednesday 21 May 2003 00:30, JoXo Miguel Pais wrote:
I have a negative experience to share: avoid mixing Compaq presario 700 and Suse. The normal audiocard (soundmax) was impossible to configure (modem as well), until eventually lost my patience. I would say that computers that are perfect for windows don't work always in linux. Maybe buying a system that comes already with linux is the best choice (some shops and sites in the internet have that choice already).
João
Me too; a negative experience... no, let me think... a (painful) learning experience. Don't mix hp xe4100 with the rme hdsp cardbus thingy. After a couple of months of fighting I'm now looking to buy a new laptop in which I can run pd through the hdsp under linux. Everything works in windows though (sigh).
Anyone using hdsp(cardbus&multiface)+pd on linux successfully? On which laptop?
The install can be a bit rough, but in terms of audio performance, my Apple Powerbook G4 800 is quite good under linux (low noise, low latency) and I am using the built-in audio. Like every laptop, its got its foibles, but overall, I am pretty happy.
I used to have a Thinkpad. The built-in audio was basically useless for anything but playing mp3s. It had a huge latency and a fair amount of noise. But it was a very reliable and rugged machine.
.hc
On Tuesday, May 20, 2003, at 12:52 America/New_York, d. daniell wrote:
I really hate it when people do this, but I'm near wits end with my search for a reasonably priced laptop/notebook on which I would be able to run Linux and PD. I currently have a Dell CPx-J650 which is fine for most things but the beast is completely unshielded, it would seem, and so noisy as to render it basically useless for audio (even using my external audio interface - the noise leaks out to it as well).
So I'm looking for any recommendations or suggestions from PD'ers who have recently purchased PC laptops and are running Linux/PD on them.
Positive or negative experiences would both be appreciated. I'm hoping to keep the price under $2000 if possible.While we're at it, I'm about to ebay my MOTU 828 Firewire audio interface, since MOTU doesn't support Linux - so I'll be looking for a replacement good-quality external audio interface. I have heard great things about the Hammerfall cardbus system, but the pricetag (>$1000) is a little steep for me, if there are similar options - something with great quality, multiple analog I/Os, SPDIF, etc - that work just as well. Any suggestions or experiences?
Thanks so much.
- david d.
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