hello, I didn't have any problem with spaces over Gem text objects using any2string.

Try this archive, with moocow this external we should find in pd extended flatspace.

http://megalego.free.fr/pd/Gem/gemtextstring.zip

----- Mail Original ----- De: "Ingo Scherzinger" ingo@miamiwave.com À: "Mathieu Bouchard" matju@artengine.ca, "Ingo Scherzinger" ingo@miamiwave.com Cc: pd-list@iem.at Envoyé: Dimanche 18 Avril 2010 10h57:32 GMT +01:00 Amsterdam / Berlin / Berne / Rome / Stockholm / Vienne Objet: Re: [PD] how to type more than one "space" in GEM with [text2d] - [textfile] output?

Ok, I managed to enter several ascii 160 (nonbereakable) and even ascii 32 (normal spaces) in a row into [text2d] with [prepend_ascii]. So it shouldn't be a big deal to put a line of text together from ascii. However, the real problem is that [textfile] or [zexy/msgfile] cannot even output regular spaces that can be converted to ascii 32. There is no output at all for the spaces. They are only used internally for separation purposes.

OTOH I will be getting standard textfiles with regular "spaces" but I can't even read the spaces to convert them to something pd can handle within pd. I don't even know if textfiles can even hold "nonbreakable spaces" at all. So now the original question has changed to:

Is there an object that can read textfiles (or any other file type) that includes "spaces" and can output these spaces (as something) so I can convert them to "ascii 32" or "ascii 160"?

Pleeeaase (!) DO NOT start a general discussion about spaces in pd here. There is a time and a place for everything but this is neither the time nor the place. This stuff has already been discussed many times before.

I'd be deeply grateful for any suggestion! Ingo

Well, if you only need to send the space to [text2d], then perhaps you can just generate it with objects and let GEM handle the rest, and never save the character in message boxes.

It will be either "194 160" for utf-8, or "160" for latin-1 and for "unencoded unicode".

I think that I first had started with a different kind of nbsp that took three bytes, and this wasn't understood on OSX, and I changed it to the normal nbsp I've been talking about so far, and it became cross-platform.

I don't remember what it is like on Windows.

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