Hi, has someone experience in distributing and probably selling pd standalones? I was thinking of a combination of flash interface (or Gem?) and sound patch. right now I think the best way to do this would be to create an executable application for every platform and architecture including the used external libraries. The patch would start up in -nogui mode, although I am not sure how to handle sound settings from within the application. In case I wanted to use Gem, besides from including the license, would I also have to include the Gem sourcecode in the package? marius.
Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
In case I wanted to use Gem, besides from including the license, would I also have to include the Gem sourcecode in the package?
Alternatively you can provide a written offer to provide the source code, but yes, you also have to privde the source for everything GPL you distribute in binary form, not only for your own code or modifications (which have to be GPL-compatible or GPL itself, of course).
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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Hallo, marius schebella hat gesagt: // marius schebella wrote:
In case I wanted to use Gem, besides from including the license, would I also have to include the Gem sourcecode in the package?
Alternatively you can provide a written offer to provide the source code, but yes, you also have to privde the source for everything GPL you distribute in binary form
but you don't have to provide it along with the package (which you
already kind-of said, but i just wanted to make this clear)
the FSF is quite clear about this. a good ressource is usually the
GPL-faq: http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html
fmgarse IOhannes
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marius schebella wrote:
Hi, has someone experience in distributing and probably selling pd standalones? I was thinking of a combination of flash interface (or Gem?) and sound patch. right now I think the best way to do this would be to create an executable application for every platform and architecture including the used external libraries. The patch would start up in -nogui mode, although I am not sure how to handle sound settings from within the application.
hi marius
i love the puredata&processing combunation that raul diaz has posted what do you think about that?
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062706.html
eni
On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:
marius schebella wrote:
Hi, has someone experience in distributing and probably selling pd standalones? I was thinking of a combination of flash interface (or Gem?) and sound patch. right now I think the best way to do this would be to create an executable application for every platform and architecture
including the used external libraries. The patch would start up in -nogui mode, although I am not sure how to handle sound settings from within the application.hi marius
i love the puredata&processing combunation that raul diaz has posted what do you think about that?
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062706.html
That would also be a really cool example project for the SVG GUI
toolkit that was on this list a few days ago.
.hc
¡El pueblo unido jamás será vencido!
Hi List!
Sorry for the delayed answer...
I find really interesting marius' topic. I was fighting with standalone application with processing+pd, but I only made a *.bat file which runs processing executable and pd. This *.bat allows to specify any pd configurations (audio rate, libraries, gui/nogui, etc..). But the problem of this kind of standalone based on bat file is that is only available for windows.
I haven't knowledge on binaries packages and distributions for different OS.
But I suposse some people on this list would have some experience with this kind of binary data and distributions, and I would like to know its opinion about possibilities for pd+gem or pd+processing standalone applications.
That's a wonderfull way to build really interesting sound applications with friendly and nice interfaces.
I'll wait for your ideas!
Saludos!
2008/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org:
On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:
marius schebella wrote:
Hi, has someone experience in distributing and probably selling pd standalones? I was thinking of a combination of flash interface (or Gem?) and sound patch. right now I think the best way to do this would be to create an executable application for every platform and architecture including the used external libraries. The patch would start up in -nogui mode, although I am not sure how to handle sound settings from within the application.
hi marius
i love the puredata&processing combunation that raul diaz has posted what do you think about that?
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062706.html
That would also be a really cool example project for the SVG GUI toolkit that was on this list a few days ago.
.hc
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Because app packages are so different for each platform, it wouldn't
really be feasible to make one Pd app format for all platforms. It
seems for Windows that .bat is the best way. WIth the soon-to-be-
released Pd-extended version on Mac OS X, you can make an standalone
app from the "File" menu. I am now sketching out how to do this for
Debian. Basically, it would make a .deb package out of your patches
and set up a .desktop file for things like a shortcut in the
Applications menu and automatically configure the dependencies.
.hc
On Jul 20, 2008, at 7:43 AM, raul diaz wrote:
Hi List!
Sorry for the delayed answer...
I find really interesting marius' topic. I was fighting with standalone application with processing+pd, but
I only made a *.bat file which runs processing executable and pd.
This *.bat allows to specify any pd configurations (audio rate,
libraries, gui/nogui, etc..). But the problem of this kind of standalone based on bat file is
that is only available for windows.I haven't knowledge on binaries packages and distributions for
different OS. But I suposse some people on this list would have some experience
with this kind of binary data and distributions, and I would like
to know its opinion about possibilities for pd+gem or pd+processing
standalone applications.That's a wonderfull way to build really interesting sound
applications with friendly and nice interfaces.I'll wait for your ideas!
Saludos!
2008/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org:
On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:
marius schebella wrote:
Hi, has someone experience in distributing and probably selling pd standalones? I was thinking of a combination of flash interface (or Gem?) and sound patch. right now I think the best way to do this would be to create an executable application for every platform and architecture including the used external libraries. The patch would start up in -nogui mode, although I am not sure how to handle sound settings from within the application.
hi marius
i love the puredata&processing combunation that raul diaz has posted what do you think about that?
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062706.html
That would also be a really cool example project for the SVG GUI toolkit that was on this list a few days ago.
.hc
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Hmmmm...cool!
The standalone app option for Mac OS X sounds great! I like to know *.bat is the best way for standalone app for Windows (I expected there was a better way).
Saludos!
2008/7/21 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org:
Because app packages are so different for each platform, it wouldn't really be feasible to make one Pd app format for all platforms. It seems for Windows that .bat is the best way. WIth the soon-to-be-released Pd-extended version on Mac OS X, you can make an standalone app from the "File" menu. I am now sketching out how to do this for Debian. Basically, it would make a .deb package out of your patches and set up a .desktop file for things like a shortcut in the Applications menu and automatically configure the dependencies.
.hc
On Jul 20, 2008, at 7:43 AM, raul diaz wrote:
Hi List!
Sorry for the delayed answer...
I find really interesting marius' topic. I was fighting with standalone application with processing+pd, but I only made a *.bat file which runs processing executable and pd. This *.bat allows to specify any pd configurations (audio rate, libraries, gui/nogui, etc..). But the problem of this kind of standalone based on bat file is that is only available for windows.
I haven't knowledge on binaries packages and distributions for different OS. But I suposse some people on this list would have some experience with this kind of binary data and distributions, and I would like to know its opinion about possibilities for pd+gem or pd+processing standalone applications.
That's a wonderfull way to build really interesting sound applications with friendly and nice interfaces.
I'll wait for your ideas!
Saludos!
2008/7/10 Hans-Christoph Steiner hans@eds.org:
On Jul 7, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Enrique Erne wrote:
marius schebella wrote:
Hi, has someone experience in distributing and probably selling pd standalones? I was thinking of a combination of flash interface (or Gem?) and sound patch. right now I think the best way to do this would be to create an executable application for every platform and architecture including the used external libraries. The patch would start up in -nogui mode, although I am not sure how to handle sound settings from within the application.
hi marius
i love the puredata&processing combunation that raul diaz has posted what do you think about that?
http://lists.puredata.info/pipermail/pd-list/2008-06/062706.html
That would also be a really cool example project for the SVG GUI toolkit that was on this list a few days ago.
.hc
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ola,
But the problem of this kind of standalone based on bat file is that is only available for windows.
oh yeh? well .bat means ba(s)t(ard), it was invented way before on ubik systems and simply called a script
it's funny the monkey laughs at the dinosaur
and that you sign 'el pueblo unido ... ' when you use window$
for those who get it anyway, it's a list with sub-groups
animo! sevy
raul diaz wrote:
Hi List!
Sorry for the delayed answer...
I find really interesting marius' topic. I was fighting with standalone application with processing+pd, but I only made a *.bat file which runs processing executable and pd. This *.bat allows to specify any pd configurations (audio rate, libraries, gui/nogui, etc..). But the problem of this kind of standalone based on bat file is that is only available for windows.
I haven't knowledge on binaries packages and distributions for different OS.
But I suposse some people on this list would have some experience with this kind of binary data and distributions, and I would like to know its opinion about possibilities for pd+gem or pd+processing standalone applications.
That's a wonderfull way to build really interesting sound applications with friendly and nice interfaces.
I'll wait for your ideas!
Saludos!
hi raul
i did some tests on mac osx a while ago. so far i can open pd and a patch from processing. i suppose the best way to do configurations (nogui) would be with the pd.app internal .plist but it would have to ignore the .plist in ~/Library/Preferences. I haven't tried the standalone approach in recent pd-extended yet. I guess it would be a good thing if the patch could controll as much as possible of the configurration for example the externals.
so we got windows and macosx working...
how about building apps for linux?
eni
btw: could we change the topic? "make applications", "processing+pd" or "pd+processing standalone applications"
import com.apple.cocoa.foundation.*;
void setup() { String script = "do shell script "open -a Applications/Pd-extended.app/Contents/MacOS/Pd-extended ";
script = script+"/Users/pd/Desktop/testing/yoyo.pd"";
executeScript(script); }
void executeScript(String script) { NSAppleScript myScript = new NSAppleScript(script); NSMutableDictionary errors = new NSMutableDictionary(); myScript.execute(errors); }
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