The lack of $0 in array names is a real pain to me. I was trying to build a more sophisticated version of my sp808 (still a great and very immediate loop tool) - but you have to build each sample slot as a separate abstraction rather than a generic one.

Would this be a simple patch to add (in which case I will have a go at it myself) or could it get put on a wish list?

cheers

mark

-----Original Message----- From: sme [mailto:marius.schebella@chello.at] Sent: 01 May 2002 10:53 To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Subject: [PD] graphs, arrays, tables

hi, i run into several problems when working with graphs, arrays or tables. as i see, arrays still don´t take $1-variables in their names (please correct me). and also no $0. and secondly wonder, if it is possible to access the properties of graphs, arrays or tables with messages... like [;array100 Xfrom Xto screenwidth, ...( i would also like to create arrays via messages [array [arg1] [arg2]...( --- [send pd-my-patch.pd] but this is not really documented and i am not able to track this out of the source-code (may be this feature it is not enabled at all?). i know, that there are several ways of showing or saving data, but the advantage of arrays is, that they are "on top"/always visible in a patch. (tables can take $-variables, but do not save their appearance, are in a subpatch). the problem with renaming arrays is, that if i use "array" as the default name in an abstraction and i do a [;array $1-array( then 100 arrays are renamed and have still no unique names, ... is their any help/idea? marius.

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