Dear list,
it seems that pd can only connect to jack when started without a -noadc flag, ie.
pd -noprefs -jack -noadc
does not work, while
pd -noprefs -jack
does work. This is Pd-0.43.1 ("test5") compiled 19:10:13 Dec 12 2011, a vanilla git checkout. Jack is jackd2 on Debian, version 1.9.8~dfsg.4+20120529git007cdc37-4.1
No big problem, but puzzling to anyone wondering why jack has stopped working.
best, Peter
AFAIK there have been some changes to the audio stack and particularly jack in 0.43 branch which have essentially broken jack support in a number of ways. If you are using Linux+jack, my advice would be either to stick to 0.42.x branch or try pd-l2ork...
On 12/11/2012 04:08 AM, Peter P. wrote:
Dear list,
it seems that pd can only connect to jack when started without a -noadc flag, ie.
pd -noprefs -jack -noadcdoes not work, while
pd -noprefs -jackdoes work. This is Pd-0.43.1 ("test5") compiled 19:10:13 Dec 12 2011, a vanilla git checkout. Jack is jackd2 on Debian, version 1.9.8~dfsg.4+20120529git007cdc37-4.1
No big problem, but puzzling to anyone wondering why jack has stopped working.
best, Peter
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Hmm.. I've reworked some of the audio again for 0.44 (available in source only so far I'm afraid unless you're running on a Pi :) so I'll check the jack scene and see what I can find...
cheers M
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:29:51AM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
AFAIK there have been some changes to the audio stack and particularly jack in 0.43 branch which have essentially broken jack support in a number of ways. If you are using Linux+jack, my advice would be either to stick to 0.42.x branch or try pd-l2ork...
On 12/11/2012 04:08 AM, Peter P. wrote:
Dear list,
it seems that pd can only connect to jack when started without a -noadc flag, ie.
pd -noprefs -jack -noadcdoes not work, while
pd -noprefs -jackdoes work. This is Pd-0.43.1 ("test5") compiled 19:10:13 Dec 12 2011, a vanilla git checkout. Jack is jackd2 on Debian, version 1.9.8~dfsg.4+20120529git007cdc37-4.1
No big problem, but puzzling to anyone wondering why jack has stopped working.
best, Peter
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Dear Miller
This is what I experience with the audio back-ends of the current git:
-pa +++ When launching pd with '-pa' (or nothing, for that matter), portaudio seems to scan all available sound sources. Somehow it tries to connect to a list of bluetooth devices, that once have been or currently are connected to my box. Checking every single one takes approx. five seconds each. The whole 'pd -pa' start process takes 22 seconds on my box. This is the output:
roman@yoyo5:~$ pd -pa oops: ALSA cards not reported in order? ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe ALSA lib pcm.c:2217:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side ALSA lib audio/pcm_bluetooth.c:1614:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) ALSA lib audio/pcm_bluetooth.c:1614:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) ALSA lib audio/pcm_bluetooth.c:1614:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) ALSA lib audio/pcm_bluetooth.c:1614:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5) ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:957:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server socket jack server is not running or cannot be started
I get the same output and similar lag when starting audacity. This makes me assume that this behavior is not at all specific to Pd but probably is exposed by any application using portaudio (or a recent enough version of portaudio?).
-jack +++++
- turning DSP on after it has been turned off freezes Pd, when latency
is short (on my box below 20ms).
- turning DSP off still makes Pd disappear from the connections in jack.
Turning DSP off thus means loosing all manually created connections to other jack clients (which won't be restored, when turning DSP on).
-alsa +++++ As with -jack, it's not possible to do [; pd dsp 0, pd dsp 1( without getting a drop-out. This is still a regression of 0.43 and 0.44. This worked fine in 0.42.
Regarding the initial question, 'pd -noadc -jack' works, but only if '-channels X' is also specified. But then, [adc~] does still receive something.
Roman
On Die, 2012-12-11 at 08:53 -0800, Miller Puckette wrote:
Hmm.. I've reworked some of the audio again for 0.44 (available in source only so far I'm afraid unless you're running on a Pi :) so I'll check the jack scene and see what I can find...
cheers M
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:29:51AM -0500, Ivica Ico Bukvic wrote:
AFAIK there have been some changes to the audio stack and particularly jack in 0.43 branch which have essentially broken jack support in a number of ways. If you are using Linux+jack, my advice would be either to stick to 0.42.x branch or try pd-l2ork...
On 12/11/2012 04:08 AM, Peter P. wrote:
Dear list,
it seems that pd can only connect to jack when started without a -noadc flag, ie.
pd -noprefs -jack -noadcdoes not work, while
pd -noprefs -jackdoes work. This is Pd-0.43.1 ("test5") compiled 19:10:13 Dec 12 2011, a vanilla git checkout. Jack is jackd2 on Debian, version 1.9.8~dfsg.4+20120529git007cdc37-4.1
No big problem, but puzzling to anyone wondering why jack has stopped working.
best, Peter
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