hi list
Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and route patch cords which is very useful to >organize patch cords and make the thinks more readable. I like them a lot.
this is so old. this comparing .... so old. if you like your fancy gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump whatever you want thru it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve it. nobody will even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P sorry no offence .) peace ~/.jc
This thread has inspired me to work on a fork called Pd-limited.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, jamal crawford threen52@ml1.net wrote:
hi list
Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and
route patch cords which is very useful to >organize patch cords and make the thinks more readable. I like them a lot.
this is so old. this comparing .... so old. if you like your fancy gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump whatever you want thru it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve it. nobody will even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P sorry no offence .) peace ~/.jc
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One thing I'd be interested in knowing about is what (if anything) someone tried to do in Pd, but couldn't given its limitations (apart from look/feel/convenience issues).
On 2/23/16 8:54 AM, Matt Barber wrote:
This thread has inspired me to work on a fork called Pd-limited.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, jamal crawford <threen52@ml1.net mailto:threen52@ml1.net> wrote:
hi list >Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and route patch cords which is very useful to >organize patch cords and make the thinks more readable. I like them a lot. this is so old. this comparing .... so old. if you like your fancy gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump whatever you want thru it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve it. nobody will even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P sorry no offence .) peace ~/.jc _______________________________________________ Pd-list@lists.iem.at <mailto:Pd-list@lists.iem.at> mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list
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if you like your fancy gui's, use them!
Pd's GUI is plain and limited, yes. But what it lacks in beauty it makes up for in tcp socket chatter. -Jonathan
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:02 PM, david medine <dmedine@ucsd.edu> wrote:
One thing I'd be interested in knowing about is what (if anything) someone tried to do in Pd, but couldn't given its limitations (apart from look/feel/convenience issues).
On 2/23/16 8:54 AM, Matt Barber wrote:
This thread has inspired me to work on a fork called Pd-limited.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, jamal crawford threen52@ml1.net wrote:
hi list
>Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and route patch cords which is very useful to >organize patch cords and make the thinks more readable. I like them a lot.
this is so old. this comparing .... so old.
if you like your fancy gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump whatever you want thru it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve it. nobody will even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P
sorry no offence .)
peace
~/.jc
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But I guess pd-l2ork addresses some of these issues? I know Jonathan has done a lot of work on a node webkit gui for pd: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/pd-nw That's a mirror that I stopped updating awhile back. The repo is here:https://puredata.osuosl.org/ It's an incremental approach, so it still suffers from socket chatter problems that tcl/tk Pd has. But now that tcl/tk is removed from the C code, logic is slowly making its way over to the GUI side.
For example-- there is no longer any socket chatter when you're typing inside an object box. That all gets handled by the GUI, which means that all the editing bindings you're used to in a browser work exactly the same way. It also means the C code that used to handle these details can be removed.
Here's a one-eyed pirate cat walking around in a patch:pdblog.nfshost.com/catchar.webm As you can see it looks just like the current incarnation of Pd-l2ork. There are also skins for Pd Vanilla, Extended, C64, and Strongbad. -Jonathan
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:52 PM, Jonathan Wilkes <jancsika@yahoo.com> wrote:
if you like your fancy gui's, use them!
Pd's GUI is plain and limited, yes. But what it lacks in beauty it makes up for in tcp socket chatter. -Jonathan
On Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:02 PM, david medine <dmedine@ucsd.edu> wrote:
One thing I'd be interested in knowing about is what (if anything) someone tried to do in Pd, but couldn't given its limitations (apart from look/feel/convenience issues).
On 2/23/16 8:54 AM, Matt Barber wrote:
This thread has inspired me to work on a fork called Pd-limited.
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, jamal crawford threen52@ml1.net wrote:
hi list
>Max have features like auto-align horizontally/vertically and align and route patch cords which is very useful to >organize patch cords and make the thinks more readable. I like them a lot.
this is so old. this comparing .... so old.
if you like your fancy gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump whatever you want thru it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve it. nobody will even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P
sorry no offence .)
peace
~/.jc
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:27 AM, jamal crawford threen52@ml1.net wrote:
if you like your fancy gui's, use them! have you heard of OSC? just dump
whatever you want thru it and run a headless instance of pd, where you recieve it. nobody will even notice. are you a nerd or just pretending :P
If you have a static patch where you don't need to dynamically add or remove objects, building an external gui is fine and dandy. But Liam is basically saying he isn't satisfied with the tcl/tk patching interface and would like an alternative. As far as I am aware libpd doesn't have hooks for adding, removing, and connecting objects. You can't build an alternative gui. In my mind this is the most severe limitation of pd.
But I guess pd-l2ork addresses some of these issues? I know Jonathan has done a lot of work on a node webkit gui for pd: https://github.com/jonwwilkes/pd-nw
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