Hi clemos:
hi chun lee
maybe I don't get it, or maybe I'm stupid but
I don't seem to be able to create objects when I type a number and hit enter in the create number box, I get a message : error: inlet: expected '' but got 'float' error: inlet: expected '' but got 'symbol'
Ummm, I was just looking at it but could not quite figure out why this happened. Have you tried entering the "create" number in side of the [pd create/delete]? Thinking of ways in which I can help correct it, maybe you can send me (leechun@leechun.freeserve.co.uk) a screen shot of the inside of the [pd create/delete] and the parent patch.
anyway (and that's why I want to make it work :) ) your work looks really interresting, and I'm looking for such dynamic patch creation/alteration tools too
I don't know if this can interrest you, but I discovered several interresting stuff related to that here : http://www.parasitaere-kapazitaeten.net/ (I know it's quite famous already, but.. )
especially there's this 'dyn~' external, that allows you to do all kinds of patch creation alteration operations... but the patch you create this way stays hidden inside the dyn~ box, and never becomes an autonomous viewable and savable patch, so this may not be your point....
Yes, I know of dyn~ but have not tried it yet. I should find sometime to try it. Will look at it a bit later, am on my way out just now. But I like the way that things that have been created and deleted are all viewable, is this true in dyn~?
anyway please let us know what's next :)
++++++++ clemos
Peace
CHUN
Hallo, chun lee hat gesagt: // chun lee wrote:
Yes, I know of dyn~ but have not tried it yet. I should find sometime to try it. Will look at it a bit later, am on my way out just now. But I like the way that things that have been created and deleted are all viewable, is this true in dyn~?
It is viewable, but connections are not. Also it's not possible to edit the patch by hand, or rather, it is possible, but against the whole concept of dyn~.
The real advantage is scripting. With dyn~ every object you create has to get identifiers, for example "foo" and "bar". These ids can be used to make connections then or send messages. [connect foo 0 bar 0( then will connect object foo outlet 0 to object bar inlet 0. This is very clean, especially if combined with scripting in e.g. Python:
id = 0
class Obj: def __init__(self, theObj, target="."): # stupid, I know, see below. Just for illustration! global id self._id = "/obj_%d" % id id = id + 1 print "newobj %s %s %s, " % (target, self.id(), theObj)
def delete(self):
print "del %s, " % self._id
# here id gets out of sync, so don't use this naive approach!
global id
id = id - 1
self._id = None
def id(self):
return self._id
def connect(self, otherObject, my0utlet=0, theirInlet=0):
print "conn %s %d %s %d, " % (self.id(), my0utlet,
otherObject.id(), theirInlet)
def disconnect(self, otherObject, my0utlet=0, theirInlet=0):
print "dis %s %d %s %d, " % (self.id(), my0utlet,
otherObject.id(), theirInlet)
o1 = Obj("f 0") o2 = Obj("+ 1") o1.connect(o2) o2.connect(o1, 0, 1) o1.disconnect(o2) o2.delete() o1.delete()
etc. or similar.
This idea is developed further with Thomas' dyn-library, which he presented in Graz. There should be a paper on the convention site.
Hint: You see, how I used a slash to start the object's name? ;)
Ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
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