Hallo, Mathieu Bouchard hat gesagt: // Mathieu Bouchard wrote:

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005, timon wrote:

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Im looking for an object - if it exists - that can tell me the number of characters in a message. I need to set a limit to the number to as Im using it for type in GEM. I want to stop the text when the line gets too long. Any clues?

| [any2symbol] | [#import per_message] | [#dim] | [#export] |

but then that requires two more libraries (zexy+gf)... i can't think of anything simpler for now.

Attached version only requires zexy's s2l (and [list] of pd-0.39), but it only deals with one symbol. To get the length of more, just serialize the whole list as done in [pd drip] later.

Ciao

Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

Hallo, Thoralf Schulze hat gesagt: // Thoralf Schulze wrote:

hi frank,

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Attached version only requires zexy's s2l (and [list] of pd-0.39), but

Does this object have some added magic compared to the old fashioned lister? I remember that I couldn't get your gem-patch to work - the was something like list prepend, which I've never seen before ... looks like you're doing some sort of string processing.

[list] has lots of magic. It's the best builtin to happen to Pd since, say, 1.5 years. Everyone should upgrade to 0.39 just for [list].

Ciao

Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

Hallo, carmen hat gesagt: // carmen wrote:

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[list] has lots of magic. It's the best builtin to happen to Pd since, say, 1.5 years. Everyone should upgrade to 0.39 just for [list].

is there a way to [prepend] without using 2 objects instead of one?

Well, what about an abstraction?

To mimic Max/Cyclone [prepend] as in "list a b c" ==> [prepend set] ==> "set a b c" you need to use [list trim] afterwards.

However to convert "a b c" to "list set a b c" you only need one [list prepend set], whereas to get a "list"-list out of Max-[prepend] requires a conversion using a second object (like [list]).

See attached patch for an example. Either way you look at it: In one case, you always need two objects, unless list-semantics totally change.

Ciao

Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__

Hallo, Urs Liska hat gesagt: // Urs Liska wrote:

what exactly do you mean?

You can for example:

[1 2 original( | [list prepend newitem] | [print]

which will print you 'newitem 1 2 original'.

Well, not quite: [print] doesn't print the full list, which actually is: "list newitem 1 2 original". To remove the first "list" you need to use [list trim] or [route list]. This makes a difference e.g. if "newitem" is a method name, like for example "set" is a method of message objects. See the patch I posted for the difference in behaviour. I think, it also is explained in list-help.pd.

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Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org_ __goto10.org__