Hi Miller,
I know you probably have more pressing problems but it would be nice to get something like [getdir] in vanilla before you hit those 100k lines of code OR 50 years are up :)
I know you have been bugged in the past but I just wanted to throw it in again in case I could put some influence into you moving such functionality up the "to do" list...
built to last 50 years. It's now about 17 ywars in (1/3 of its intended
lifetime.)
BTW I find this to be so cool. software minimalism at its finest. for me, there is no reason to go elsewhere...
thanks for all the work! m
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 6:39 PM, Miller Puckette msp@ucsd.edu wrote:
HI all -
My figure was 100K lines, not 10K. PD's C code is at about 70K now, and the Tcl/TK code is 7K - so I am only adding expansions very carefully now.
Another related idea with an absurdly arbitrary round number attached: the code is built to last 50 years. It's now about 17 ywars in (1/3 of its intended lifetime.)
cheers Miller
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 06:26:43PM -0500, Ivica Bukvic wrote:
What I have been doing is solidifying core features to get a better idea
of
what the source should look like. Separating anything beforehand will result in s lot of problems/busywork later. I would also not deceive
myself
that 10K lines is enough. Pd-extended is way above that when you include 3rs party externals. Ditto for pd-l2ork. On Feb 26, 2014 6:10 PM, "Peter Brinkmann" <
peter.brinkmann@googlemail.com>
wrote:
On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Ivica Bukvic ico@vt.edu wrote:
The reason why I believe combining all of these will not be feasible
is
because in one of my recent conversations with Miller (and Miller
please
correct me if I somehow misremember here) he expressed his belief any project that exceeds N lines of code which I believe in this case it
was
something like 10000, it becomes unmaintainable and dies.
That's why separating the GUI from the audio engine is so important. I sort of agree that 10000 lines of irreducible GUI+audio code would
probably
be unmaintainable. On the other hand, 5000 lines of audio code plus
5000
lines of GUI code, communicating through a smallish, well-defined interface, wouldn't be a problem at all.
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On 2014-03-09 14:29, me.grimm wrote:
Hi Miller,
I know you probably have more pressing problems but it would be nice to get something like [getdir] in vanilla before you hit those 100k lines of code OR 50 years are up :)
that's probably badly spent lines of code. if we are hitting the max-lines-of-code boundary, then we should focus on getting things into Pd that are not doable via externals.
just imaging we had a Pd that had built-in objectclasses to convert between all known currencies, but still no way to create abstractions with a variable number of iolets.
fgmasdr IOhannes
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me.grimm