Onyx,
I really appreciate you chiming in here! I just happened to read your blog after I wrote what I've described to the pd-list what you are doing with your controller. Luckily I was 100% right.
I have been thinking about a controller very similar to your's since several years. I know exactly what's going on in your mind. I have already built a sound module which is optimized for wind controllers and I do not see any reason for wind controllers to look like a sax or clarinet. There are many limitations with EWIs and WX5s. It was about time somebody went other ways.
And I have to say once more that I really appreciate and like your live playing / looping.
Ingo
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Onyx Ashanti [mailto:onyxashanti@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juni 2011 12:39 An: ingo@miamiwave.com Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as a horn player does, into a looper which I use to layer everything very quickly into an arrangement then deconstruct and reconstruct on a musically relevant trajectory. There was nothing pre recorded or preconceived. Simply a controller, a database of synthesizers and a looper with effects. I am playing every single solitary note. If that sounds like it is hard to do, you're right.
As for not seeing how pd is used in this project, The controller is merely 3 arduinos, running hans wonderful firmata/pduino software, connected wirelessly to puredata where I created the wind controller software and gestural systems. Without pd there is no system. It's all documented from day one on my blog. No parodies involved.
I would like an elaboration on how the system is "clunky" if you don't mind. First off, I feel that it is pretty streamlined for a first prototype made of cardboard that is only 3 months old. Two wireless hand units and a mouth unit. If you have suggestions as to how I might improve it at this stage, before my next stage or dev, I would love to hear it. @marco, how would you make this concept more "beautiful" or "efficient"? I am always a willing student in these regards. Do you have any examples of said efficiency? Being an instructor, I would have expected that you would have seen the blog link on the Ted profile and researched your position before simply asserting that my concept has no value.
@Tyler. You are correct in that I don't care about making it rain granular algorithms (yet), I want to be able to express myself for fully using tools available to me. Hans and others were nice enough to help me with advice and code and it just happened that some people (Ted) other than my immediate fans found it interesting. Even now, I still busk, but this opportunity makes it a bit easier to realize some of these larger goals.
The phone is used as a headup display for making sure all my sensors are doing what they are supposed to do.
@richie. I have been a pro in electronic music for 15 years. Google it.
One thing that I and other alternative controller artists are realizing is that we must be in the audience. Otherwise people can not see that you are actually playing. That is why when I play clubs I play from the dance floor and currently monitor with the club sound system which is hard but allows a flow of ideas that doesn't come from separating ones self from the audience. And from there people can see your fingers and gestures carve the sound.
This form of performance blends my desire to connect with my space my music and my movements as intimately but, it should be noted as well, this is a 3 month old prototype so that people are discussing it and I have even moved from beta stage yet, is encouraging.
If you would like to hear what is possible with this concept, go to www.onyxashanti.bandcamp.com/album/onyx-Ashanti-full-promotional-package- download-2 Or feel free to ask me.
Www.beatjazz.blogspot.com
I dare someone to show me something more entertaining than that built around pure data and pduino.
Greg
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 8:47 AM, Ingo ingo@miamiwave.com wrote:
Onyx,
I really appreciate you chiming in here! I just happened to read your blog after I wrote what I've described to the pd-list what you are doing with your controller. Luckily I was 100% right.
I have been thinking about a controller very similar to your's since several years. I know exactly what's going on in your mind. I have already built a sound module which is optimized for wind controllers and I do not see any reason for wind controllers to look like a sax or clarinet. There are many limitations with EWIs and WX5s. It was about time somebody went other ways.
And I have to say once more that I really appreciate and like your live playing / looping.
Ingo
-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Onyx Ashanti [mailto:onyxashanti@gmail.com] Gesendet: Dienstag, 21. Juni 2011 12:39 An: ingo@miamiwave.com Betreff: Re: [PD] Pd performance at TED
I figured that I would chime in at this point.
Every single note you hear, is being played, as in one at a time, as a horn player does, into a looper which I use to layer everything very quickly into an arrangement then deconstruct and reconstruct on a musically relevant trajectory. There was nothing pre recorded or preconceived. Simply a controller, a database of synthesizers and a
looper
with effects. I am playing every single solitary note. If that sounds
like
it is hard to do, you're right.
As for not seeing how pd is used in this project, The controller is merely 3 arduinos, running hans wonderful firmata/pduino software, connected wirelessly to puredata where I created the wind controller software and gestural systems. Without pd there is no system. It's all documented from day one on my blog. No parodies involved.
I would like an elaboration on how the system is "clunky" if you don't mind. First off, I feel that it is pretty streamlined for a first prototype made of cardboard that is only 3 months old. Two wireless hand units and a mouth unit. If you have suggestions as to how I might improve it at this stage, before my next stage or dev, I would love to hear it. @marco, how would you make this concept more "beautiful" or "efficient"?
I
am always a willing student in these regards. Do you have any examples of said efficiency? Being an instructor, I would have expected that you
would
have seen the blog link on the Ted profile and researched your position before simply asserting that my concept has no value.
@Tyler. You are correct in that I don't care about making it rain
granular
algorithms (yet), I want to be able to express myself for fully using tools available to me. Hans and others were nice enough to help me with advice and code and it just happened that some people (Ted) other than my immediate fans found it interesting. Even now, I still busk, but this opportunity makes it a bit easier to realize some of these larger goals.
The phone is used as a headup display for making sure all my sensors are doing what they are supposed to do.
@richie. I have been a pro in electronic music for 15 years. Google it.
One thing that I and other alternative controller artists are realizing
is
that we must be in the audience. Otherwise people can not see that you
are
actually playing. That is why when I play clubs I play from the dance floor and currently monitor with the club sound system which is hard but allows a flow of ideas that doesn't come from separating ones self from the audience. And from there people can see your fingers and gestures carve the sound.
This form of performance blends my desire to connect with my space my music and my movements as intimately but, it should be noted as well,
this
is a 3 month old prototype so that people are discussing it and I have even moved from beta stage yet, is encouraging.
If you would like to hear what is possible with this concept, go to
www.onyxashanti.bandcamp.com/album/onyx-Ashanti-full-promotional-package-
download-2 Or feel free to ask me.
Www.beatjazz.blogspot.com
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