cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
Regards
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more powerful than soundflower...
thanks
2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com
On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same machine and diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on windows and once on OSX.
One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to tweak in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly optimized latency and CPU load.
Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy the opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular laptops.
I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being next to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") linux distribution in it.
I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at least) with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well on linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm missing is that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be cool, to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress.
Can't comment on those.
Lorenzo.
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Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
Regards
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more powerful than soundflower...
thanks
2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com
On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in Linux than in any other OS, is that right?
Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same machine and diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself.
Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on windows and once on OSX.
One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to tweak in a little more to have insanely low latencies?
Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly optimized latency and CPU load.
Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy the opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular laptops.
I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being next to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") linux distribution in it.
I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at least) with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well on linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm missing is that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be cool, to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress.
Can't comment on those.
Lorenzo.
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2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
Regards
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more powerful than soundflower...
thanks
2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com
On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote:
> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in > Linux than in any other OS, is that right? > > Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same machine > and > diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >
Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on windows and once on OSX.
One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want.
> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to > tweak > in a little more to have insanely low latencies? > > Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly > optimized latency and CPU load. >
Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that.
> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy > the > opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular > laptops. > > I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being > next > to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") > linux > distribution in it. > > I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at least) > with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well on > linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm missing > is > that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be > cool, > to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >
Can't comment on those.
Lorenzo.
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To install pd-extended, you need run the command: sudo apt-get install pd-extended
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
Regards
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> One very big advantage on Linux is > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more powerful than soundflower...
thanks
2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com
> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > >> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in >> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >> >> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >> machine and >> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >> > > Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on > windows and once on OSX. > > One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with > hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. > Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. > Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. > > >> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to >> tweak >> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >> >> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly >> optimized latency and CPU load. >> > > Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. > Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended > development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. > > > >> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy >> the >> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >> laptops. >> >> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being >> next >> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") >> linux >> distribution in it. >> >> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >> least) >> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well >> on >> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm missing >> is >> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be >> cool, >> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >> > > Can't comment on those. > > Lorenzo. > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** > listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >
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Looking for dual booting in Macs I found that: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html
Maybe if you have problems with wireless: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2011756
Good Luck!
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
To install pd-extended, you need run the command: sudo apt-get install pd-extended
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
Regards
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> > One very big advantage on Linux is > > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack > > I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more > powerful than soundflower... > > thanks > > > 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com > >> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >> >>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in >>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>> >>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>> machine and >>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>> >> >> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >> windows and once on OSX. >> >> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with >> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >> >> >>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to >>> tweak >>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>> >>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly >>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>> >> >> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >> >> >> >>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>> enjoy the >>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>> laptops. >>> >>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being >>> next >>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") >>> linux >>> distribution in it. >>> >>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>> least) >>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well >>> on >>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>> missing is >>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be >>> cool, >>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>> >> >> Can't comment on those. >> >> Lorenzo. >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** >> listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >
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Looking for dual booting in Macs I found that:
http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html
wow, that seems much harder than I expected from a "ready to go" installation like Ubuntu. It seems that the pain in the ass is all over for getting linux into a Mac. Lots of issues that dont seem to be there on a PC.
Or maybe not that much development/support yet to help mac users into Linux... but I dount so, as I see people using linux on a mac all the time. What's the trick?
I like when you say "any kernel tuned for realtime should work". That makes sense and gave me hope to work it out easily, as i think there might be many choices out there.
Things were much easier on the Pi :) just burn the installed image to the drive. I bet that'd be possible for closed systems such as Mac computers, right? Maybe some day...
cheers
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Looking for dual booting in Macs I found that: http://www.rodsbooks.com/ubuntu-efi/index.html
Maybe if you have problems with wireless: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2011756
Good Luck!
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
To install pd-extended, you need run the command: sudo apt-get install pd-extended
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances > you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency > kernel. > > I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in > portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with > qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. > http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ > > This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: > http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ > > If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: > http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ > > All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency > kernels preconfigured. > If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 > distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. > > With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light. > > Regards > > > 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com > >> > One very big advantage on Linux is >> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >> >> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >> powerful than soundflower... >> >> thanks >> >> >> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >> >>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother >>>> in >>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>> >>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>> machine and >>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>> >>> >>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >>> windows and once on OSX. >>> >>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with >>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>> >>> >>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to >>>> tweak >>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>> >>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly >>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>> >>> >>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>> enjoy the >>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>>> laptops. >>>> >>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being >>>> next >>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") >>>> linux >>>> distribution in it. >>>> >>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>>> least) >>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>> well on >>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>> missing is >>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd >>>> be cool, >>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>> >>> >>> Can't comment on those. >>> >>> Lorenzo. >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/* >>> *listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > -- > > Esteban Viveros > > (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 > 7868 > > http://shumamisll.tumblr.com > > https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art > > http://expurgacao.art.br > >
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(27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
Regards
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> One very big advantage on Linux is > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack
I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more powerful than soundflower...
thanks
2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com
> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: > >> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in >> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >> >> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >> machine and >> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >> > > Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on > windows and once on OSX. > > One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with > hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. > Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. > Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. > > >> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to >> tweak >> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >> >> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly >> optimized latency and CPU load. >> > > Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. > Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended > development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. > > > >> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna enjoy >> the >> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >> laptops. >> >> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being >> next >> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") >> linux >> distribution in it. >> >> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >> least) >> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well >> on >> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm missing >> is >> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be >> cool, >> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >> > > Can't comment on those. > > Lorenzo. > > > ______________________________**_________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** > listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >
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it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency kernel.
I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/
This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/
If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/
All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency kernels preconfigured. If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based.
With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light.
Regards
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> > One very big advantage on Linux is > > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack > > I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more > powerful than soundflower... > > thanks > > > 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com > >> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >> >>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother in >>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>> >>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>> machine and >>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>> >> >> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >> windows and once on OSX. >> >> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with >> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >> >> >>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to >>> tweak >>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>> >>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly >>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>> >> >> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >> >> >> >>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>> enjoy the >>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>> laptops. >>> >>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being >>> next >>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") >>> linux >>> distribution in it. >>> >>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>> least) >>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works well >>> on >>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>> missing is >>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd be >>> cool, >>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>> >> >> Can't comment on those. >> >> Lorenzo. >> >> >> ______________________________**_________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/** >> listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >
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Esteban Viveros
(27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances > you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency > kernel. > > I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in > portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with > qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. > http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ > > This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: > http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ > > If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: > http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ > > All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency > kernels preconfigured. > If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 > distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. > > With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light. > > Regards > > > 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com > >> > One very big advantage on Linux is >> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >> >> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >> powerful than soundflower... >> >> thanks >> >> >> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >> >>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>> >>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother >>>> in >>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>> >>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>> machine and >>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>> >>> >>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >>> windows and once on OSX. >>> >>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with >>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>> >>> >>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you to >>>> tweak >>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>> >>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an absurdly >>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>> >>> >>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>> enjoy the >>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>>> laptops. >>>> >>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like being >>>> next >>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best one") >>>> linux >>>> distribution in it. >>>> >>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>>> least) >>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>> well on >>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>> missing is >>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd >>>> be cool, >>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>> >>> >>> Can't comment on those. >>> >>> Lorenzo. >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/* >>> *listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > -- > > Esteban Viveros > > (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 > 7868 > > http://shumamisll.tumblr.com > > https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art > > http://expurgacao.art.br > >
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Esteban Viveros
(27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868
Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact me and we can try something together..
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com > >> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances >> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency >> kernel. >> >> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in >> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with >> qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. >> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ >> >> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: >> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ >> >> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: >> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ >> >> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency >> kernels preconfigured. >> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 >> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. >> >> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light. >> >> Regards >> >> >> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >> >>> > One very big advantage on Linux is >>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >>> >>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >>> powerful than soundflower... >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >>> >>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother >>>>> in >>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>>> machine and >>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >>>> windows and once on OSX. >>>> >>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with >>>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you >>>>> to tweak >>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an >>>>> absurdly >>>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>>> enjoy the >>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>>>> laptops. >>>>> >>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like >>>>> being next >>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best >>>>> one") linux >>>>> distribution in it. >>>>> >>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>>>> least) >>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>>> well on >>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>>> missing is >>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd >>>>> be cool, >>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Can't comment on those. >>>> >>>> Lorenzo. >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>>> **listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Esteban Viveros >> >> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >> 2738 7868 >> >> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >> >> http://expurgacao.art.br >> >> >
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Esteban Viveros
(27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868
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Esteban Viveros
(27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 7868
cool you're coming!
by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011
cheers
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact me and we can try something together..
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" > using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, > but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm > downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. > Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram > > cheers > > 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com >> >>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances >>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency >>> kernel. >>> >>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in >>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with >>> qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. >>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ >>> >>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: >>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ >>> >>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: >>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ >>> >>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency >>> kernels preconfigured. >>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 >>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. >>> >>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux >>> Light. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >>> >>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is >>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >>>> >>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >>>> powerful than soundflower... >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs >>>>>> smoother in >>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>>>> machine and >>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >>>>> windows and once on OSX. >>>>> >>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd >>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you >>>>>> to tweak >>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an >>>>>> absurdly >>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>>>> enjoy the >>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>>>>> laptops. >>>>>> >>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like >>>>>> being next >>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best >>>>>> one") linux >>>>>> distribution in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>>>>> least) >>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>>>> well on >>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>>>> missing is >>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd >>>>>> be cool, >>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can't comment on those. >>>>> >>>>> Lorenzo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Esteban Viveros >>> >>> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >>> 2738 7868 >>> >>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >>> >>> http://expurgacao.art.br >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >
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Mine is a MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)
I run Ubuntu (last stable) and all drivers work. Including wifi and the likes. Touchpad needs additional tweeking though and have not yet had the time for that.
I need macosx to lecture at the university and I ran pd there without any issues, trough jack (I basically have replicated setups on both linux and mac).
best, pedro
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.comwrote:
cool you're coming!
by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011
cheers
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact me and we can try something together..
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
> Sorry... Reply all... > > Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and > tecnology workshops I do. > > To install ardour: > > 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal. > > 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3 > > 3) it is! > > > 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com > >> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" >> using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, >> but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm >> downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. >> Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram >> >> cheers >> >> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com >>> >>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime >>>> performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least >>>> low-latency kernel. >>>> >>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in >>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with >>>> qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. >>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ >>>> >>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: >>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ >>>> >>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: >>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ >>>> >>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency >>>> kernels preconfigured. >>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these >>>> 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. >>>> >>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux >>>> Light. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is >>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >>>>> >>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >>>>> powerful than soundflower... >>>>> >>>>> thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs >>>>>>> smoother in >>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>>>>> machine and >>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it >>>>>> on windows and once on OSX. >>>>>> >>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd >>>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you >>>>>>> to tweak >>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an >>>>>>> absurdly >>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>>>>> enjoy the >>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>>>>>> laptops. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like >>>>>>> being next >>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best >>>>>>> one") linux >>>>>>> distribution in it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>>>>>> least) >>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>>>>> well on >>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>>>>> missing is >>>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. >>>>>>> That'd be cool, >>>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Can't comment on those. >>>>>> >>>>>> Lorenzo. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> Esteban Viveros >>>> >>>> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >>>> 2738 7868 >>>> >>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >>>> >>>> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >>>> >>>> http://expurgacao.art.br >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >> >> > > > -- > > Esteban Viveros > > (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 > 7868 > > http://shumamisll.tumblr.com > > https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art > > http://expurgacao.art.br > >
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Nice, just so we're all on the same page, the thing Esteban mentioned about "any RT ready distro works" makes sense, right?
I can forget about the idea someone gave that the more hard to install and configure something, the better (like slackware). So something like Ubuntu Studio does the trick as well as anything else, right?
So, besides what you mentioned, is there any other option to chose from?
Here's what I got:
- Ubuntu Studio
And three that are based on Ubuntu Studio, or Ubuntu...
- KXstudio
- Shumamis Linux Light
- DreamStudio
Anything else?
And what happened to Puredyne? Was it killed? Page is offline...
So all I need to do is work the booting crap out and have fun... cool. Will do.
thanks
2013/5/31 Pedro Lopes plopesresearch@gmail.com
Mine is a MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)
I run Ubuntu (last stable) and all drivers work. Including wifi and the likes. Touchpad needs additional tweeking though and have not yet had the time for that.
I need macosx to lecture at the university and I ran pd there without any issues, trough jack (I basically have replicated setups on both linux and mac).
best, pedro
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres <porres@gmail.com
wrote:
cool you're coming!
by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011
cheers
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact me and we can try something together..
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;) > > > > > 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com > >> Sorry... Reply all... >> >> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music >> and tecnology workshops I do. >> >> To install ardour: >> >> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal. >> >> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3 >> >> 3) it is! >> >> >> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >> >>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore >>> configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this >>> Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this >>> on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation >>> macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram >>> >>> cheers >>> >>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime >>>>> performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least >>>>> low-latency kernel. >>>>> >>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in >>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with >>>>> qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. >>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ >>>>> >>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: >>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ >>>>> >>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: >>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ >>>>> >>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have >>>>> low-latency kernels preconfigured. >>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these >>>>> 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. >>>>> >>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux >>>>> Light. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is >>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >>>>>> powerful than soundflower... >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs >>>>>>>> smoother in >>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>>>>>> machine and >>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it >>>>>>> on windows and once on OSX. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd >>>>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>>>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows >>>>>>>> you to tweak >>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an >>>>>>>> absurdly >>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>>>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>>>>>> enjoy the >>>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my >>>>>>>> regular laptops. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like >>>>>>>> being next >>>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best >>>>>>>> one") linux >>>>>>>> distribution in it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly >>>>>>>> at least) >>>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>>>>>> well on >>>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>>>>>> missing is >>>>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. >>>>>>>> That'd be cool, >>>>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can't comment on those. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lorenzo. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> Esteban Viveros >>>>> >>>>> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >>>>> 2738 7868 >>>>> >>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >>>>> >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >>>>> >>>>> http://expurgacao.art.br >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Esteban Viveros >> >> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >> 2738 7868 >> >> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >> >> http://expurgacao.art.br >> >> > > > -- > > Esteban Viveros > > (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) 2738 > 7868 > > http://shumamisll.tumblr.com > > https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art > > http://expurgacao.art.br > >
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"And what happened to Puredyne? Was it killed? Page is offline..."
Yep - it's a gonner.
AFAIK - Never managed to get it going on macs anyway - though I did see Nick Collins do it at ICMC11 somehow, and in about 15m. Never followed it up as puredyne was unfortunately obviously on it's way out by that point. Hell of a job keeping a full-blown distro up and running, amazing GOTO10 did it for so long.
Cheers,
Julian
On 31 May 2013 18:10, Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com wrote:
Nice, just so we're all on the same page, the thing Esteban mentioned about "any RT ready distro works" makes sense, right?
I can forget about the idea someone gave that the more hard to install and configure something, the better (like slackware). So something like Ubuntu Studio does the trick as well as anything else, right?
So, besides what you mentioned, is there any other option to chose from?
Here's what I got:
- Ubuntu Studio
And three that are based on Ubuntu Studio, or Ubuntu...
- KXstudio
- Shumamis Linux Light
- DreamStudio
Anything else?
And what happened to Puredyne? Was it killed? Page is offline...
So all I need to do is work the booting crap out and have fun... cool. Will do.
thanks
2013/5/31 Pedro Lopes plopesresearch@gmail.com
Mine is a MacBook Air (13-inch, Mid 2012)
I run Ubuntu (last stable) and all drivers work. Including wifi and the likes. Touchpad needs additional tweeking though and have not yet had the time for that.
I need macosx to lecture at the university and I ran pd there without any issues, trough jack (I basically have replicated setups on both linux and mac).
best, pedro
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Alexandre Torres Porres < porres@gmail.com> wrote:
cool you're coming!
by the way, mine is a macbook air, mid 2011
cheers
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Ok.. Ubuntu have optimized images for mac ( http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/precise/release/)
I can't do a specific ubuntu prepared for you because I don't have a mac to run this Ubuntu and do all the test.
If you don't have any solution, I'm going to SP in more 3 weeks, contact me and we can try something together..
2013/5/31 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> hmm, no luck > > well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a > installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got > parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the > software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, > but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it > didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and > boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the > DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - > press any key" > > This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just > for it. Maybe some other distribution? > > Thanks > > > 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com > >> I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;) >> >> >> >> >> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com >> >>> Sorry... Reply all... >>> >>> Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music >>> and tecnology workshops I do. >>> >>> To install ardour: >>> >>> 1) Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal. >>> >>> 2) run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3 >>> >>> 3) it is! >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >>> >>>> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore >>>> configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this >>>> Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this >>>> on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation >>>> macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> >>>> 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime >>>>>> performances you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least >>>>>> low-latency kernel. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in >>>>>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with >>>>>> qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. >>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: >>>>>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ >>>>>> >>>>>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: >>>>>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ >>>>>> >>>>>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have >>>>>> low-latency kernels preconfigured. >>>>>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All >>>>>> these 3 distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. >>>>>> >>>>>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux >>>>>> Light. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >>>>>> >>>>>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is >>>>>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >>>>>>> powerful than soundflower... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs >>>>>>>>> smoother in >>>>>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>>>>>>> machine and >>>>>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it >>>>>>>> on windows and once on OSX. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd >>>>>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>>>>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW >>>>>>>> (e.g. Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows >>>>>>>>> you to tweak >>>>>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an >>>>>>>>> absurdly >>>>>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>>>>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>>>>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I >>>>>>>>> wanna enjoy the >>>>>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my >>>>>>>>> regular laptops. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like >>>>>>>>> being next >>>>>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best >>>>>>>>> one") linux >>>>>>>>> distribution in it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly >>>>>>>>> at least) >>>>>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to >>>>>>>>> works well on >>>>>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>>>>>>> missing is >>>>>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. >>>>>>>>> That'd be cool, >>>>>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Can't comment on those. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Lorenzo. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> Esteban Viveros >>>>>> >>>>>> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >>>>>> 2738 7868 >>>>>> >>>>>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >>>>>> >>>>>> http://expurgacao.art.br >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Esteban Viveros >>> >>> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >>> 2738 7868 >>> >>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >>> >>> http://expurgacao.art.br >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Esteban Viveros >> >> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >> 2738 7868 >> >> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >> >> http://expurgacao.art.br >> >> >
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Hi Alexander, in order to in stall gnu/linux (whatever distro) on Mac you first need to install refit (because the Mac bios) http://refit.sourceforge.net/
Once you do that you can run linux installation process from USB like proletariat pc. cheers husk
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.comwrote:
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram
cheers
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com > >> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances >> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency >> kernel. >> >> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in >> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with >> qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. >> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ >> >> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: >> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ >> >> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: >> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ >> >> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency >> kernels preconfigured. >> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 >> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. >> >> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux Light. >> >> Regards >> >> >> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >> >>> > One very big advantage on Linux is >>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >>> >>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >>> powerful than soundflower... >>> >>> thanks >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >>> >>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs smoother >>>>> in >>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>>> >>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>>> machine and >>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >>>> windows and once on OSX. >>>> >>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd with >>>> hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you >>>>> to tweak >>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an >>>>> absurdly >>>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>>> enjoy the >>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>>>> laptops. >>>>> >>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like >>>>> being next >>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best >>>>> one") linux >>>>> distribution in it. >>>>> >>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>>>> least) >>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>>> well on >>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>>> missing is >>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd >>>>> be cool, >>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Can't comment on those. >>>> >>>> Lorenzo. >>>> >>>> >>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/ >>>> **listinfo/pd-list http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> Esteban Viveros >> >> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >> 2738 7868 >> >> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >> >> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >> >> http://expurgacao.art.br >> >> >
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HUehuehuehuehue... "proletariat pc"
Husk, you know something about using generic ubuntu images on macs? They can work properly?
2013/5/31 Husk 00 husk00@gmail.com
Hi Alexander, in order to in stall gnu/linux (whatever distro) on Mac you first need to install refit (because the Mac bios) http://refit.sourceforge.net/
Once you do that you can run linux installation process from USB like proletariat pc. cheers husk
On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:10 AM, Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.comwrote:
Hum... :/
Ok... Waiting for another suggestion I'm find some new information.
All the three distros I suggest are based in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS... Seems some macbook pro models Ubuntu 12.04 don't work.
First check this list: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
If it's possible, you can try this tutorial: http://randomtutor.blogspot.com.br/2013/02/installing-ubuntu-1304-on-retina....
Seems more easy and direct than the last link information.
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
it says "no bootable device - press any key"
KXstudio & DreamStudio also burnt to CD/DVD and had the same issue. Whatever I have to do will work for them all I guess. Maybe that thing for dealing with the booting stuff on a mac that looks kind of a drag.
thanks
2013/5/31 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
hmm, no luck
well, the instructions don't cover macs, and only talk about a installation from a pen drive with a windows software (it's ok, I got parallels, but I don't have a big enough pen drive). I tried using the software to burn the image into a partition from an external hard drive, but the windows software gave me a warning it wouldn't boot, and in fact it didn't. Next, tried burning the image to a DVD in an external Drive and boot from it... No deal. It even shows as an option to boot (although the DVD is as "windows"), but when you click it, it says "no bootable device - press any key"
This seems hard, I was hoping not to have to buy a pen drive just for it. Maybe some other distribution?
Thanks
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
I don't test Shumamis in Mac.. Please give me a feedback! ;)
2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com
Sorry... Reply all...
Ok.. Shumamis don't have Ardour pre installed, I use it in music and tecnology workshops I do.
To install ardour:
Press Ctrl+Alt+T , it will open terminal.
run in terminal: sudo apt-get install ardour3
it is!
2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com
> cool, so it seems I dont need to bother with "hardcore configuring" > using a "not so easy one" like slackware? I'll give this Shumamis a try, > but I don't see ardour there though. Did you install this on a mac? I'm > downloading the 64 bit version. I got a previous generation macbook air. > Dual core i7 1.8GHz. 4GB Ram > > cheers > > 2013/5/30 Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.com >> >>> Maybe I can be wrong, but to work with pd in realtime performances >>> you will need a kernel patched with rt features. At least low-latency >>> kernel. >>> >>> I'm start to do a little distro (Ubuntu 12.04.2 based) it in >>> portuguese. You can try it. Shumamis Linux Light have included with >>> qtractor DAW and Ardour 3 is very easy to install. >>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com/ >>> >>> This distro is a remaster of a DreamStudio: >>> http://www.dickmacinnis.com/dreamstudio/ >>> >>> If you don't like Unity windows manager, you can use KXstudio: >>> http://kxstudio.sourceforge.net/ >>> >>> All these distros use KXStudio repositories, and have low-latency >>> kernels preconfigured. >>> If you need a realtime kernel, you can install easily. All these 3 >>> distros are Ubuntu 12.04 LTS based. >>> >>> With Jack, at now, I don't have problems using Shumamis Linux >>> Light. >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> 2013/5/30 Alexandre Torres Porres porres@gmail.com >>> >>>> > One very big advantage on Linux is >>>> > the possibility to run Pd with hassle-free jack >>>> >>>> I'm ok with soundflower for that matter, although jack is more >>>> powerful than soundflower... >>>> >>>> thanks >>>> >>>> >>>> 2013/5/30 Lorenzo Sutton lorenzofsutton@gmail.com >>>> >>>>> On 30/05/13 22:43, Alexandre Torres Porres wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi there, correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems Pd runs >>>>>> smoother in >>>>>> Linux than in any other OS, is that right? >>>>>> >>>>>> Perhaps some of you have run benchmarks for it with the same >>>>>> machine and >>>>>> diferente Operational Systems. I was curious to try myself. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can't comment extensively on that. I use Pd on Linux, used it on >>>>> windows and once on OSX. >>>>> >>>>> One very big advantage on Linux is the possibility to run Pd >>>>> with hassle-free jack, in turn easy multichannel. >>>>> Not only - jack means you can directly record into a DAW (e.g. >>>>> Ardour), again with multiple 'virtual' channels if you want. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Now, is there a "best linux" for Pd? Maybe one that allows you >>>>>> to tweak >>>>>> in a little more to have insanely low latencies? >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, the whole point and interest is to try and reach an >>>>>> absurdly >>>>>> optimized latency and CPU load. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not sure about insane values, but I'm happy with debian now. >>>>> Although I do very little live stuff these days. I think Pd-extended >>>>> development is mostly done on debian, but I may be wrong on that. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Now that I got myself a Raspberry Pi (my first linux) I wanna >>>>>> enjoy the >>>>>> opportunity/motivation to broaden my linux usage to my regular >>>>>> laptops. >>>>>> >>>>>> I use macs by the way. Don't know if that is an issue. Like >>>>>> being next >>>>>> to an impossible task to install a nice hardcore ("the best >>>>>> one") linux >>>>>> distribution in it. >>>>>> >>>>>> I've seen that recently Linux has been able to work (poorly at >>>>>> least) >>>>>> with Thunderbolt. I have an RME Multiface that seems to works >>>>>> well on >>>>>> linux. Since newer macbooks lost the PCI slot, all that I'm >>>>>> missing is >>>>>> that my thunderbolt to PCI slot adapter works in Linux. That'd >>>>>> be cool, >>>>>> to run it on my macbook air, on linux... but I digress. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Can't comment on those. >>>>> >>>>> Lorenzo. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ______________________________**_________________ >>>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>>> http://lists.puredata.info/**listinfo/pd-listhttp://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pd-list@iem.at mailing list >>>> UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> >>>> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Esteban Viveros >>> >>> (27) 8815 7170 | (27) 3066 0359 | (11) 95761 4125 | (11) >>> 2738 7868 >>> >>> http://shumamisll.tumblr.com >>> >>> https://www.facebook.com/estebanviveros.art >>> >>> http://expurgacao.art.br >>> >>> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Pd-list@iem.at mailing list > UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> > http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list > >
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On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Esteban Viveros emviveros@gmail.comwrote:
HUehuehuehuehue... "proletariat pc"
Husk, you know something about using generic ubuntu images on macs? They can work properly?
Yes, they does, after install refit. The only difference is the bios, all the rest is the same between both. Then you can have issue with some specific component like camera or wifi adapter. Most of the time you have to extract the proprietary apple firmware. cheers Husk
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