Hello,
I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much!
Chad
Try the latest Mandrake 9.1rc2 with the "cooker" updates. Support for audio is very good. There's even a kernel with the low latency patches. Package management with urpmi is getting better. Exotic applications (those who can't distributed my Mandrake because of bad patents or other restrictions) are available from the PLF site. You should like it. I do... -- Marc
Le dim 16/03/2003 à 15:56, Chad Wood a écrit :
Hello,
I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much!
Chad
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Another option is RedHat 8.0 + PlanetCCRMA, as I do.
Another one is DeMuDi but I think Frank (?) can say something more on this.
Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu.
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 01:58, Marc Lavallée wrote:
Try the latest Mandrake 9.1rc2 with the "cooker" updates. Support for audio is very good. There's even a kernel with the low latency patches. Package management with urpmi is getting better. Exotic applications (those who can't distributed my Mandrake because of bad patents or other restrictions) are available from the PLF site. You should like it. I do... -- Marc
Le dim 16/03/2003 à 15:56, Chad Wood a écrit :
Hello,
I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much!
Chad
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i'll second the redhat 8... it is by far the slickest linux distro i've used. i installed it the other day on my laptop and it found all my hardware painlessly... one big benefit is that since redhat is that most popular distro, almost every "bleeding edge" app is available for it. a few of my friends adn my brother (hans) are pretty big on debian, but from my limited experience it definitely seems like the "power egghead distribution". :)
Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu wrote:
Another option is RedHat 8.0 + PlanetCCRMA, as I do.
Another one is DeMuDi but I think Frank (?) can say something more on this.
Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu.
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 01:58, Marc Lavallée wrote:
Try the latest Mandrake 9.1rc2 with the "cooker" updates. Support for audio is very good. There's even a kernel with the low latency patches. Package management with urpmi is getting better. Exotic applications (those who can't distributed my Mandrake because of bad patents or other restrictions) are available from the PLF site. You should like it. I do... -- Marc
Le dim 16/03/2003 à 15:56, Chad Wood a écrit :
Hello,
I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much!
Chad
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Hallo, Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu hat gesagt: // Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu wrote:
Another option is RedHat 8.0 + PlanetCCRMA, as I do.
Another one is DeMuDi but I think Frank (?) can say something more on this.
You probably mean Guenther, who is very involved in Demudi/Agnula, but I can say something as well.
This weekend I attended the first Linux Audio Developers Conference in Karlsruhe. There was a lot of talk in regard to making LA-software easier to install on Linux, about the responsibilities of the distribution makers and about what's already available. Unfourtunatly I missed the talk, Andrea Glorioso from Centro Tempo Reale/Florence gave on AGNULA, but you can listen to it and all the other talks via http://www.ima.zkm.de/lad03/
But Andrea told me in a personal conversation (we had several), that the Demudi team is working hard on getting another release out. Personally I'm using Debian which is the best distribution anyway. ;) But if you can wait a little bit, I would really recommend trying Demudi.
But I like to have AGNULA in my list of software repositories, so it already is a nice addition on audio software to Debian. But, well, you all know that Debian is more a distro for a special kind of user. Debian is for those, who do not fear a console-driven installation process. And Debian is for thos, who want to install a system once and just update it in the years to come. (I'm still running on my main machine a Debian installation from 97/98, I guess, starting with Debian 1.2)
But then, installation might be the hardest hurdle to overcome for a novice. Because of that Planet CCRMA (pronounced "Karma" as I learned now) might be a better way. I was really, really impressed with the work, Fernando is doing on Planet CCRMA. You can get all the latest audio software in one place and three commands. It's a miracle.
Suse also is nice. The do a lot of funding on ALSA, so they always have the newest version inside. The next Suse probably won't take very long to be released, but don't tell anyone yet.
Basically, the best description is maybe, what Joerg Nettingsmeyer, the list admin of LAD and LAU (= Linux Audio User, you need to subscribe there as a newbie) said: "If you install Debian, you need to tweak it afterwards by installing a lot of the software you need. The default install is rather small, so Debian is for the guys who know what they want. If you install Suse, you need to twek it by de-installing a lot of stuff and removing all the exe candy. Suse is for the users who don't know what they want, but want to take a look around."
ciao
Frank Barknecht _ ______footils.org__
On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 12:55, Frank Barknecht wrote:
You probably mean Guenther, who is very involved in Demudi/Agnula, but I can say something as well.
No, I meant you, because I though you used DeMuDi or part of their packages. I totally forgot Guenther! :) Sorry.
Maurizio Umberto Puxeddu.
hello chad,
Am Sonntag, 16. März 2003 21:56 schrieb Chad Wood:
Hello,
I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much!
Chad
if you are new to linux, i would suggest a suse linux distro. suse is, in my opinion, a very easy to install and set-up linux distro. it is also very complete regarding the software (7 cd's and 1 dvd). one drawback with suse is, that it is relatively bloated. that means, with a standard install you get lots of stuff and services installed you normally dont need/want. thus it is always a good idea to "clean up" a fresh installed suse....
if you already have some experience with linux, you may try out debian. the apt package management is by far the easiest i have seen yet. it also has serveral kernels, also with lowlatency patches, available. and, debian already has a pd and gem package (tough not the newest....) to install something, you simply type "apt-get install <appname>" and there you go. updating a debian system also is just a single commandline. aptitude is a nice menu-driven textinterface to that.
regardless of the distro you are going to use, as desktop i highly recommend kde 3.1. it has a great functionality, the apps really share a common look (not like gnome, where it often happens that for example the menues are differently placed and layouted in the different gnome apps). also, kde has a great multimedia support in means of file-handling. you can directly grab cd's and compress them to ogg or mp3 by just dragging the files somewhere, for example. also, kde allows the most flexible configuration for the look and feel, so for beginners it can really look almost exactly like windows. that way you will get familiar with it faster. or like a mac, with the menubar at top and the like... (the one i prefer) last but not least, the internationalization of the kde apps is very good.
greets,
chris
I've found redhat 8.0 with the planet ccrma packages is the easiest way t go for me.
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003, Christian Klippel wrote:
hello chad,
Am Sonntag, 16. M�rz 2003 21:56 schrieb Chad Wood:
Hello,
I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much!
Chad
if you are new to linux, i would suggest a suse linux distro. suse is, in my opinion, a very easy to install and set-up linux distro. it is also very complete regarding the software (7 cd's and 1 dvd). one drawback with suse is, that it is relatively bloated. that means, with a standard install you get lots of stuff and services installed you normally dont need/want. thus it is always a good idea to "clean up" a fresh installed suse....
if you already have some experience with linux, you may try out debian. the apt package management is by far the easiest i have seen yet. it also has serveral kernels, also with lowlatency patches, available. and, debian already has a pd and gem package (tough not the newest....) to install something, you simply type "apt-get install <appname>" and there you go. updating a debian system also is just a single commandline. aptitude is a nice menu-driven textinterface to that.
regardless of the distro you are going to use, as desktop i highly recommend kde 3.1. it has a great functionality, the apps really share a common look (not like gnome, where it often happens that for example the menues are differently placed and layouted in the different gnome apps). also, kde has a great multimedia support in means of file-handling. you can directly grab cd's and compress them to ogg or mp3 by just dragging the files somewhere, for example. also, kde allows the most flexible configuration for the look and feel, so for beginners it can really look almost exactly like windows. that way you will get familiar with it faster. or like a mac, with the menubar at top and the like... (the one i prefer) last but not least, the internationalization of the kde apps is very good.
greets,
chris
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On Tuesday 18 March 2003 02:53, Brian Redfern wrote:
I've found redhat 8.0 with the planet ccrma packages is the easiest way t go for me.
That's what I've based my new hard drive installation on - first RH 8.0, then planet CCRMA, then unfortunately needing to get the latest rosegarden, jack, and pd from CVS - currently something seems to be seriously amiss in jack with this setup.
Biggest problem with redhat 8.0, in my experience, is not with music, but with the mainstream applications like the web browsers and file navigators. They are very slow compared to my previous installation (loosely based on Redhat 7.1). For example, Konqueror on my 800 Mhz, 128MB Athlon, takes at least 12 seconds to launch if it is not already in the cache, where Netscape 4 seemed to be a lot faster, and same for the file navigators, and email applications. I just get the overall impression that the snapshot of applications is bloated compared to previous RedHat releases.
Either that, or I have some sort to serious optimization missing.
Larry Troxler
while i have used Redhat 8.0 and a couple of generations of SuSe yet by far prefer Debian which I have used for a few years now. currently i run a 2.4.20 kernel with usb, usb-midi, firewire and the alsa drivers on my dell inspiron laptop. debian has excellent package management [for installing and uninstalling packages locally or over networks], and is flexible enough to ensure that new editions do not ever require re-installation. this allows me to easily upgrade both kernel and packages whenever i like.
debian is also very good on a laptop as the installation process allows the user to build only what they need on the system, hence saving valuable diskspace. the debian community is large and enthusiastic, so help during this process [if needed] is never far away.
if you ever need a hand with getting debian onto your laptop let me know. i have installed it onto several laptops and so may be able to assist.
julian oliver
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 14:56:58 -0600 "Chad Wood" chadwickw@mail.utexas.edu wrote:
//Hello, // //I'm going to switch my laptop from Windows to Linux in a couple months. I //just wanted to know which distributions, desktop environments, etc. you all //use. Are some distributions of Linux more flexible with the various //hardware that people use (MIDI, USB, etc)? Thanks so much! // //Chad // // //_______________________________________________ //PD-list mailing list //PD-list@iem.kug.ac.at //http://iem.kug.ac.at/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pd-list // //
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