I don't know how easy it is with TK but in most GUI Frameworks its easy - it took 10 minutes or less to add to vst~
cheers
mark
-----Original Message----- From: martin pi [mailto:pi@attacksyour.net] Sent: 24 April 2002 10:27 To: mark Cc: 'Yves Degoyon'; 'Pure Data' Subject: RE: [PD] pd-gui wishlist
comments add to that. I would add one thing - windows should remember where you put them last I think. A lot of other things work that way.
this should be put in the bowl labeled "very very important".
martin
cheers
mark
-----Original Message----- From: martin pi [mailto:pi@attacksyour.net] Sent: 24 April 2002 10:16 To: mark Cc: 'Yves Degoyon'; 'Pure Data' Subject: RE: [PD] pd-gui wishlist
sorry to get so boldly into the way, yet this pseudo_3d madnesses that grasp all "modern" user interfaces are not the right way in my opinion. keep it plain and logical. the main functionallity needed (at the gui part) are:
- speed and stability
- antialiasing of fonts & lines
- maybe layers would be interesting
- automatic placement of main window on
top/bottom/left/wherever (but always at the same place and not in the center of the screen)
what makes pd so percepted unstable in the use is the slight delay in reaction in my opinion. but that is caused by the network-seperated approach of gui & "server".
the foretellable placement of the main window would be very nice at the development stage of externals - currently im am always make-ing and the firing up pd and the closing [ and sometimes finding ] of the main window gets on my nerves.
after all: why should a button on my 2d screen be 2,5d like in pseudo 3d?
martin
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, mark wrote:
To be honest I am not looking for anything fancy - just a bit pseudo 3d'ness perhaps - the odd shadow on a box makes a big difference apperance wise.
mark
-----Original Message----- From: Yves Degoyon [mailto:ydegoyon@free.fr] Sent: 23 April 2002 16:48 To: pd-list@iem.kug.ac.at Cc: 'Pure Data' Subject: Re: [PD] pd-gui wishlist
Frank Barknecht wrote:
Hi,mark hat gesagt: // mark wrote: I know its boring but the main thing I would like from the GUI is for it
to
look nicer - Jmax despite not doing half the things I want it to looks fantastic and is nice to use. Yes, but as it's wishing time ;) I would also like the PD gui to
befaster.
Some patches, especially those with lots of number boxes, runa lot
faster
when pd is started with -noguiciao, speaking of light-speed interfaces, java is certainly not the way. and if you like a lot of decorations ( which i don't, i'd rather a pure interface ), you're not going in that way neither.
about decorations, Tcl/Tk is not a limitation for that, latest relesases includes transparency, it doesn't do 3D-accelerated graohics, ok .... but do we use it outside of Gem ? ? ?
about tool tips poping up, i hope it was only meant for edition mode, in performance mode, it would be an impediment.
you might be surprised i dislike useless decorations, knowing i did some graphical externs, but heavy graphic operations for these objects are launched at patch loading time or in the background.
i'm not sure it's useful to update numbers or sliders each 1/1000
second.
yvotchka. Unauthorized pd
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mark