I'm guessing he's recommending using touchOSC rather than RjDj - it seems like a more direct route to achieve what you are after.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM, David NG McCallum d@mentalfloss.cawrote:

Hi Patrick,

Can you clarify that?

touchOSC acts as a bridge between rjdj and the serial port?

RJDJ sends OSC internally to touchOSC which sends stuff out of the iPhone serial port? And reverse as well?

Thanks again, D!

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Pagano, Patrick < pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu> wrote:

...

OSC with touch osc to Comport

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Hi there list,

I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio system is on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino through serial.

I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I could just use it as the engine for this stage of the prototype.

Does the [comport] object work in RJDJ and can it communicate with the external serial port on the iPhone?

And if the answer is "no" or "yes, but," what are my other options for using Pd on the iPhone and communicating with the serial port?

Thanks!

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Hi David, I really like to help by trying on my ipodtouch :itunes does not succeed in, is there another way to install rjdj on ipodtouch 1st generation with last system update ?

fred

David NG McCallum wrote:

Hi Chuck,

Thanks for chipping in.

I need Pd on the iPhone to do the audio component and communication with the Arduino, so I can't ditch rjdj (or whatever way I might get Pd working on the iPhone).

I've also poked around and can't find any reference to touchOSC sending anything out of the iPhone's serial pins. My guess is that Patrick is implying that I have Pd running on a separate computer that has the arduino attached to it, which won't work; I need everything done on the iPhone.

The solution I'm trying to find is: Pd patch running on the iPhone in communication with an Arduino directly connected to the iPhone.

Still hoping there's a solution to this...

Thanks! D!

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Chuck Wiggins <cwiggins999@gmail.com mailto:cwiggins999@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm guessing he's recommending using touchOSC rather than RjDj - it
seems like a more direct route to achieve what you are after.

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM, David NG McCallum
<d@mentalfloss.ca <mailto:d@mentalfloss.ca>> wrote:

    Hi Patrick,

    Can you clarify that?

    touchOSC acts as a bridge between rjdj and the serial port?

    RJDJ sends OSC internally to touchOSC which sends stuff out of
    the iPhone serial port? And reverse as well?

    Thanks again,
    D!


    On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Pagano, Patrick
    <pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu <mailto:pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu>>
    wrote:

        OSC with touch osc to Comport







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        Hi there list,

        I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio
        system is on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino
        through serial.

        I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I could
        just use it as the engine for this stage of the prototype.

        Does the [comport] object work in RJDJ and can it
        communicate with the external serial port on the iPhone?

        And if the answer is "no" or "yes, but,"  what are my other
        options for using Pd on the iPhone and communicating with
        the serial port?

        Thanks!

        Cheers,
        David
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rjdj is Pd, but it is like any office iPhone app, so you can
dynamically load things, like externals. So rjdj only has its built- in set of objects, which does not include [comport]. You'll
definitely have to jailbreak the iPhone to access the serial port,
AFAIK.

You can build Pd for iPhone using the pd-mobile-0.43 branch, but the
audio I/O code needs to be integrated, so its not included in the
branch. Its just a matter of finding the time.

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdForiPhone

You can use PDa on old iPods and use the serial port, thanks to Tymm
Twillman. He even made an Arduino that has a iphone/ipod connector on
it, instead of USB, so it literally plugs directly into the iPod/ iPhone. (I cc'ed him, I don't know if he's on the Pd list).

.hc

On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Fred Voisin wrote:

Hi David, I really like to help by trying on my ipodtouch :itunes does not
succeed in, is there another way to install rjdj on ipodtouch 1st
generation with last system update ?

fred

David NG McCallum wrote:

...

Hi Chuck, Thanks for chipping in. I need Pd on the iPhone to do the audio component and communication
with the Arduino, so I can't ditch rjdj (or whatever way I might
get Pd working on the iPhone). I've also poked around and can't find any reference to touchOSC
sending anything out of the iPhone's serial pins. My guess is that
Patrick is implying that I have Pd running on a separate computer
that has the arduino attached to it, which won't work; I need
everything done on the iPhone. The solution I'm trying to find is: Pd patch running on the iPhone
in communication with an Arduino directly connected to the iPhone. Still hoping there's a solution to this... Thanks! D! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Chuck Wiggins
<cwiggins999@gmail.com mailto:cwiggins999@gmail.com> wrote: I'm guessing he's recommending using touchOSC rather than RjDj -
it seems like a more direct route to achieve what you are after. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM, David NG McCallum <d@mentalfloss.ca mailto:d@mentalfloss.ca> wrote: Hi Patrick, Can you clarify that? touchOSC acts as a bridge between rjdj and the serial port? RJDJ sends OSC internally to touchOSC which sends stuff out of the iPhone serial port? And reverse as well? Thanks again, D! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Pagano, Patrick <pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu mailto:pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu> wrote: OSC with touch osc to Comport *From:* pd-list-bounces@iem.at mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *David NG McCallum *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* pd-liste List *Subject:* [PD] RJDJ, comport, Pd on iPhone, serial communication Hi there list, I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio system is on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino through serial. I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I
could just use it as the engine for this stage of the prototype. Does the [comport] object work in RJDJ and can it communicate with the external serial port on the iPhone? And if the answer is "no" or "yes, but," what are my
other options for using Pd on the iPhone and communicating with the serial port? Thanks! Cheers, David -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org

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Oops, left out a key 'not'

so you can not dynamically load things, like externals.

Fred, rjdj won't work on the first gen iPod Touch, they didn't want to
support it because it doesn't have a built-in mic. We are aiming to
support it with the pd-mobile0.43 branch.

.hc

On Jan 20, 2010, at 11:55 PM, David NG McCallum wrote:

An authoritative voice!

Thanks for the tips, HC. Will take a look at those.

Thanks! David

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:47 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner <hans@at.or.at

...

wrote:

rjdj is Pd, but it is like any office iPhone app, so you can
dynamically load things, like externals. So rjdj only has its built- in set of objects, which does not include [comport]. You'll
definitely have to jailbreak the iPhone to access the serial port,
AFAIK.

You can build Pd for iPhone using the pd-mobile-0.43 branch, but the
audio I/O code needs to be integrated, so its not included in the
branch. Its just a matter of finding the time.

http://puredata.info/docs/developer/BuildingPdForiPhone

You can use PDa on old iPods and use the serial port, thanks to Tymm
Twillman. He even made an Arduino that has a iphone/ipod connector
on it, instead of USB, so it literally plugs directly into the iPod/ iPhone. (I cc'ed him, I don't know if he's on the Pd list).

.hc

On Jan 20, 2010, at 3:12 PM, Fred Voisin wrote:

Hi David, I really like to help by trying on my ipodtouch :itunes does not
succeed in, is there another way to install rjdj on ipodtouch 1st
generation with last system update ?

fred

David NG McCallum wrote: Hi Chuck, Thanks for chipping in. I need Pd on the iPhone to do the audio component and communication
with the Arduino, so I can't ditch rjdj (or whatever way I might get
Pd working on the iPhone). I've also poked around and can't find any reference to touchOSC
sending anything out of the iPhone's serial pins. My guess is that
Patrick is implying that I have Pd running on a separate computer
that has the arduino attached to it, which won't work; I need
everything done on the iPhone. The solution I'm trying to find is: Pd patch running on the iPhone
in communication with an Arduino directly connected to the iPhone. Still hoping there's a solution to this... Thanks! D! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 1:05 PM, Chuck Wiggins
<cwiggins999@gmail.com mailto:cwiggins999@gmail.com> wrote: I'm guessing he's recommending using touchOSC rather than RjDj - it seems like a more direct route to achieve what you are after. On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 12:45 PM, David NG McCallum <d@mentalfloss.ca mailto:d@mentalfloss.ca> wrote: Hi Patrick, Can you clarify that? touchOSC acts as a bridge between rjdj and the serial port? RJDJ sends OSC internally to touchOSC which sends stuff out of the iPhone serial port? And reverse as well? Thanks again, D! On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 11:53 AM, Pagano, Patrick <pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu mailto:pat@digitalworlds.ufl.edu> wrote: OSC with touch osc to Comport *From:* pd-list-bounces@iem.at mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at [mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at mailto:pd-list-bounces@iem.at] *On Behalf Of *David NG McCallum *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:47 AM *To:* pd-liste List *Subject:* [PD] RJDJ, comport, Pd on iPhone, serial communication Hi there list, I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio system is on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino through serial. I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I could just use it as the engine for this stage of the prototype. Does the [comport] object work in RJDJ and can it communicate with the external serial port on the iPhone? And if the answer is "no" or "yes, but," what are my other options for using Pd on the iPhone and communicating with the serial port? Thanks! Cheers, David -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org _______________________________________________ Pd-list@iem.at mailto:Pd-list@iem.at mailing list UNSUBSCRIBE and account-management -> http://lists.puredata.info/listinfo/pd-list -- __ _ _ _ __ _ http://sintheta.org

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Sorry for hijacking the thread.

Hans, does the pd-mobile0.43 branch can be built for android? I think it it is a more open platform to use, although you wil, maybe, need to root the phone.

2010/1/21 Frank Barknecht fbar@footils.org

Hallo, David NG McCallum hat gesagt: // David NG McCallum wrote:

...

I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio system is on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino through serial.

I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I could just use it

as

...

the engine for this stage of the prototype.

As others wrote, RjDj is just a plain vanilla Pd including only the BSD-licensed parts. Legally it's very hairy to include GPL-stuff in the AppStore. You can use netsend/netreceive to communicate with external hardware, but comport is not supported

Ciao

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On Jan 21, 2010, at 3:45 AM, Frank Barknecht wrote:

Hallo, David NG McCallum hat gesagt: // David NG McCallum wrote:

...

I'm looking at doing a project prototype where the audio system is
on the iPhone, and it interfaces with an Arduino through serial.

I'm assuming since RJDJ is a working version of Pd, I could just
use it as the engine for this stage of the prototype.

As others wrote, RjDj is just a plain vanilla Pd including only the
BSD-licensed parts. Legally it's very hairy to include GPL-stuff in the AppStore.
You can use netsend/netreceive to communicate with external hardware, but
comport is not supported

Hey Frank

I think it confuses things to call rjdj the same as Pd-vanilla. It is
not. It is another distro of Pd, like Pd-extended, but it is much
smaller and closer to Pd-vanilla. rjdj does not have expr, IIRC,
which is definitely part of vanilla. rjdj cannot load externals,
which is part of vanilla. rjdj includes the nice rj feature
extraction externals, and specific modifications for getting data from
the touchscreen and accelerometer. Those are definitely not in vanilla.

.hc

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