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there is none... in fact, there are not any cyclone help patches in cvs, just the weird test patches (which is confusing, I know...)

and there is http://test.pilot.fm/pd/patches/help/ sustain is in there and I got a couple more than in the tarball on my local disk.

i'd really love to see these help patches in the cvs ;-)

cheers...

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hi,

I think this would be great... the best place for help patches is externals/miXed/doc/help/cyclone, patches not meant to be searched from the help popup fit into externals/miXed/doc/examples/cyclone

Krzysztof

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: ...

I'll even put them in the CVS if that is ok with all parties involved. Is externals/miXed/doc ok?

On Thursday, Apr 8, 2004, at 12:47 America/New_York, CK wrote:

I read:

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I'll even put them in the CVS if that is ok with all parties involved. Is externals/miXed/doc ok?

that's fine with me I'll just see what else I've finished by now and let you know.

Ok, they are checked in. I also added the beginning of my tot-help.pd. They look good, I've been wanting a [counter] help file for a long time. But I'd like to make a suggestion. Instead of using [print], I think its more user friendly to display the text in the same window.
There are two ways that I do this:

| [list2symbol] | [ \ <---- (symbolatom with a size of 0 so it auto-resizes)

or the preferred way:

| [prepend set] | [ ( <---- (blank message box)

Check the attached patch.

.hc

#N canvas 0 22 454 304 10; #X msg 79 245 this is only a test; #X obj 79 222 prepend set; #X obj 155 172 list2symbol; #X symbolatom 155 195 0 0 0 0 - - -; #X obj 166 112 prepend this; #X msg 79 39 is only a test; #X msg 200 62 works; #X connect 1 0 0 0; #X connect 2 0 3 0; #X connect 4 0 1 0; #X connect 4 0 2 0; #X connect 5 0 4 0; #X connect 6 0 4 0;

Yeah, [list2symbol] isnt' the best choice for this, but I was just
throwing it out there since its a more 'orthodox' way to display text,
i.e. using a symbol atom. I personally like the [prepend set]---[
( option best. Plus it serves as a little example of how to think
outside the box a little bit when patching. But [tosymbol] would work
fine as well.

.hc

On Friday, Apr 9, 2004, at 05:20 America/New_York, Krzysztof Czaja
wrote:

hi hc, CK,

I get

list2symbol ... couldn't create

unless running pd -lib zexy, which I usually do not, so how about using cyclone's [tosymbol] in cyclone help patches, instead?

KC

Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: ...

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[list2symbol]

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